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I want to buy a molle vest and have been over loaded with info, prices, and options.

 

I want a basic vest in brown or coyote tan for shooting and to have if ever needed. Not for military or police work.

 

Here are three I have looked at but wanted inpur or past experience from those who might can show me a better option, quality, or speak about the follwing:

 

Modular OPC Vest. Front and Back. Looks to be real good deal with 3 30 round mag pouches and some other pouches included.

Too good to be true? Only 50 bucks.http://www.charleyssurplus.com/army_military_field_gear/vests/modular_opc_vest

 

 

This one is priced well but has no back or ability to add armor. About 50 Bucks too.

 

http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/1806/category_id/294/category_chain/62,294/product_name/MOLLE+Chest+Rig

 

This one is pricey and has velcro side attachements which looks to wear out with dirt and time. 140 bucks.

http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/2303/category_id/40/product_name/MOLLE+Non-Ballistic+Plate+Carrier+Vest+-+Multicam

 

ANY HELP PLEASE. I have info over load and looking to buy decent quality.

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I'm not sure if it would fall into what you're looking for but you can find the old desert and woodland pattern U.S. Army molle vests from right before we switched to ACU pattern. For those of us who had riflemans sets during the switch they told us to keep the old stuff, so I got a whole set for free, that's why I use one. It's easily adjustable, quite rugged and breathes pretty well for a vest. http://compare.ebay.com/like/280811610292?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y

 

If you're willing to spend a bit more these are pretty nice too, and have a lot more mountable surface. http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Outerwear/Vests/VTAC-LBE-Tactical-Vest.html The problem with having a lot of mountable space is you will find something to mount on it, until your rig weighs as much as you do, lol.

 

I'm not familiar with the makers of the ones you linked, but unless you have plates you'll find vest designed with plate sleeves never really fit right without them, and all that extra material becomes hot and creates hot spots from binding and rubbing. A quallity "tactical" belt with suspenders may be a better investment depending on how much you need to mount. That's actually what I use at shooting comps and such where you need to pack a bit of an ammo firepower load.

 

Again, these are just my thoughts.

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I have looked into the belt and suspenders. Like them too, just not as many options and most are cammo and I want brown if possible.

 

Thank you for the input.

 

Check out this site, they make pretty good equipment. http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Military-Tactical,1384.htm

 

 

As do these guys. http://www.eagleindustries.com/home.php

 

I've used a lot of their products over the years. When Blackhawk first got stated their gear wasn't too good in my opinion, but since then they've come a long way, and Eagle has been making gear for the "high Speeds" for a couple decades if memory serves.

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http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/1805/category_id/294/product_name/MOLLE+Mesh+Hydration+Vest

 

This is similiar to the vest I have and use (mine doesn't have the hydration bladder built in). I like it and it has held up under my abuse. I've also used the SpecOps Brand vest but it is limited in adjustment (designed to be worn over body armor), so I gave it to my Dad and switched. I agree with Vicious and Eagle would be another brand to look at. I also seen one at Amazon (posted link in another thread) that was $20 (if memory serves). I plan on buying one of these for my son and will test it. I figure it will give him a start and if it holds up great, if not, I'll switch him to a Condor probably when he at least slows down on growing...lol.

http://www.amazon.com/NcStar-CPV2915B-Molle-Pals-Black/dp/B00399FK4A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329590024&sr=8-1

Another company that makes alot of gear is Tactical Tailor. They are American made and lifetime warranties.

I really like the vests, I've used everything from the shoulder harness (H-harness preferred over Y-harness), LBV, RACK system and the MOLLE vest. I like the adjustability of the vest and being able to modify as I want to. I even use mine for small game hunting. I have the coyote brown color and then a multitude of different colors and patterns for my pouches, altho ACU is the majority as it's the gear I have from my service time.

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If you're willing to spend a bit more these are pretty nice too, and have a lot more mountable surface. http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products/Outerwear/Vests/VTAC-LBE-Tactical-Vest.html The problem with having a lot of mountable space is you will find something to mount on it, until your rig weighs as much as you do, lol.

That is a problem many face (whistling innocently...lol). I always carried a large ALICE pack for "bulkier items" but had to watch cramming everything in it over weight.

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I love gear... That being said, i have an MOPC, and it is a good piece of kit. I had to do some work to get it to fit my frame, but it is still one of the better for the price I have found. That being said. i am looking at trading up. I want something that i can attach a buttpack to, and have my mag pouches as well. Here is what I am looking at getting http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Ultimate-Tactical-Modular-Complete/dp/B002TUSHUE/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I27XP4JTH0J5GA&colid=152OT9Y2UW7AX if you are interested, I can put pics up of my MOPC (http://www.opsgear.com/index/page/product/product_id/2303/category_id/40/product_name/MOLLE+Non-Ballistic+Plate+Carrier+Vest+-+Multicam) which was tan, but got greened up with some krylon (and that sight your looking at is too expensive). If you want to take it off my hands, I would be willing to do business. But I think that this UTG one should fir the bill for a beginner. Heck, this vet is looking at it very seriously. I don't need combat ready gear, just something that will do in a pinch (an for $100 you cant beat the number of things you get with it). Just my $0.02. If you want the multicam one, here it is for $30 less http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE865-1.html Good luck. I will post my thoughts on the MOPC in a second (once I find them). BTW, anyone know of a good vest, that will hold the basics for keeping yourself alive, that would fit a 5' 6" 140 female? The ones I am finding that may work are... Um... Junk...

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Hey Mike, almost all the ones I linked I've used and had good results, and I'm only slightly larger than the female in question. The USGI one in particular is made to form fit a female as well as a male if certain of her features are in extreme ranges of proportional body mass difference.

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Here you go.

Review of Condor MOPC (Modular Operator Plate Carrier)

By Mike Uher

Why do I need a plate carrier? Why do you need sheets? They are an accessory for your bed. The plate carrier is an accessory for my rifle. Can’t shoot a tactical match with one magazine, and wearing belts is uncomfortable for me. Why Condor, and not something from Blackhawk, or TAG? Cause I am a cheap… Person, meaning I have a strict budget to work with (something the government should attempt, but that can be for later).

What’s so great? Well, its fits the bill perfectly for what I need. It is MOLLE, which is no surprise. But what is is the level of craftsmanship for something that most people think would only be good for airsoft. Let me assure you. This is not some cheap piece of crap you get from some out of the way Airsoft store. No, this is actually pretty good quality for the price. How pricy is it? I am glad you asked. $60 (plus shipping, so around $75). That’s it. Something similar from Blackhawk or TAG could easily cost you upwards of $200. Why pay that much for something that has no armor of any kind? At least, that’s what I thought.

First impressions were that I had my hands on something that was pretty good. After playing around with it a little while, I found that it was in fact, pretty good. After some minor modifications, I began to think, wow, this is really good for the money. Are there things they should change with the design to make it better, yeah. Could it get much better? Not really. Let me explain.

The things I didn’t like were the side SAPI pockets, cummerbund back bits, and the way that the SAPI pockets on the front and back were placed. Let me be more specific. First, the side SAPI pockets. I am a thin guy. I still have managed to maintain a 32 inch waist, even after leaving the Marines almost two years ago. That being said, the SAPI pockets, when the rig is adjusted for my size, are actually in the back. Not cool.

This same problem is why I have a problem with the cummerbund back. To get it small enough to fit me, I had to remove the crappy elastic (oh yeah, the crappy elastic, almost forgot about that) and thread it together with the length of bootlace that came with it. In all, this second bit isn’t too bad. Though, I would like to have the cummerbund more easily accessible. You have to remove all the pouches from one side, and then stuff it through to take it on and off. This is a pain in the neck to say the least.

Finally, the front and rear SAPI pockets open from the bottom. This makes me wonder if they would stay in. Plus, if I want to put a camelback into it, I will have to buy a pouch (or make a small opening in the top back for the tube, and just deal with it, but this degrades the strength of the carrier.) I would rather have them top loading and on the outside.

All in all, I would give this carrier 3.5 out of 5 before the fixes I did, and a 4.5 out of 5 after. For the money, it really is a good buy. I got mine at cheaperthandirt.com. It is comfortable, durable, and comes in tan, od, Multicam, and ACU (for all you hooahs out there). I would recommend it to a friend. And I really look forward to getting it more broken in at the range.

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And here is one for the Blackhawk Commando Chest rig.

Review for Blackhawk Chest Rig

By Mike Uher

Over the years, I have used a lot of different pieces of gear. From ALICE gear, to ILBE’s. And I take gear very seriously. So it is with great pleasure that I review the Blackhawk Chest rig. I owned two of these kits, and got rid of both (D’oh!!). One was tan, and the other was OD green. I was never able to use the green one due to unit policies at the time, but in a later unit, I used a tan one to great effect. When I used it, I did so with the Interceptor vest.

A word of advice on using chest rigs, don’t try to overload them. They have limited space to work with, but are very good at distributing the weight. When I was using the one I had, I had on my person (via the rig) eights magazines, two grenades, and four rounds of HEDP/whitestar parachute. I also had a SAW pouch attached to it that held everything from optics, to food, to extra 203 rounds. Below the grenade on the right side, I had a drop pouch. All this weighed about 25-30 pounds. And it felt like fifteen.

One nice thing about these rigs is that they can carry a SAPI plate in them, and Blackhawk also sells a back panel that can attach to it, that carries a plate as well. This is very nice (if you ever get to use just the rig without a vest of any kind). I never did, and I never owned the back panel. The rig though, even with a vest, was about the most comfortable setup I ever deployed with. I wish I would have bit the bullet and bought the back panel for it, and kept it. Truly an epic piece of gear.

The materials used are all top notch (you would hope so for the $100+ price tag) and it distributes the weight of the load carried across the top of the back, between the shoulders. Someday, when I have the cash, I may replace my Condor with a new one with a back panel. This kit was awesome. I regret getting rid of it, but the person who I sold it too had more use for it than I had at the time.

All in all I would give this a solid 5 out of 5. Blackhawk rarely makes mistakes when it comes to gear, and this is proof. Sold craftsmanship, excellent load distribution, and the ability to carry hard armor make this a solid win. If you need something that is quality, and are willing, and able to front the money, get this. It will do you a solid.

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Awesome info! Thanks!

 

Like you I am a gear person, just like shooting gear, fishing gear, hunting gear, all the gear!

 

Having kids has hurt my hunting time so shooting is easier hobby that occupies less time until they are a few years older and can hunt.

 

 

I am going to go with the Condor since like you I am cheap but notice that the real cost is the magazine pouches and other accessories. Since I can use the pouches on belt or vest/chest rig I am going to order the Condor belt and chest rig and see which type I like better then order a nice version and sell the other two but keep the pouches.

 

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The above has impressed me from reading and some youtube videos but at 120 bucks am going with the 40 Condor to make sure and then maybe order the Viking. Will get Coyote brown in all accessories so they can interchange.

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Ok, one last bit of help, i have found what appears to be too good to be true.

 

doing a google search by the produt code from condor website i found:

 

http://www.lapolicegear.com/tg-mcr5-chest-rig.html

 

For the price of ordering the vest from opsgear.com

i can get the whole rig with sig mag holders for m4 and pistol.

 

too goood to be true?????? an imitation. sorry being a slow shopper!

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Ok, one last bit of help, i have found what appears to be too good to be true.

 

doing a google search by the produt code from condor website i found:

 

http://www.lapolicegear.com/tg-mcr5-chest-rig.html

 

For the price of ordering the vest from opsgear.com

i can get the whole rig with sig mag holders for m4 and pistol.

 

too goood to be true?????? an imitation. sorry being a slow shopper!

Looks good Bama. I would be concerned about not being able to attach a pistol belt (can't see the set up in the rear). I'd want the additional mounting space for canteens, first aid kit, etc but that is a personal choice.

It says Condor brand and LA Police Gear has a decent reputation from what I know.

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If your never going to wear a plate or bp vest panel then here are 2

 

look at this military one and see if you like it.

 

https://www.mainemilitary.com/productcart/pc/Crossdraw-Vest-242p1001.htm

 

here is the one I wear everyday and I do not look to out of place here anyway

 

 

http://www.opticsplanet.net/5-11-taclite-vest.html

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Looks good Bama. I would be concerned about not being able to attach a pistol belt (can't see the set up in the rear). I'd want the additional mounting space for canteens, first aid kit, etc but that is a personal choice.

It says Condor brand and LA Police Gear has a decent reputation from what I know.

 

Thanks.

 

The package deal just looked attractive given the "a'la catre" price of the pouches. I think I might order two-for the mag holders- and then upgrade the vest at a later date. The pouches ordered on their own would really add up and this seems to get the cost way down.

 

I know this is made in China but I think i will buy a heavy duty USA made vest later and attach these mag pouches since the vest will take most of the punishment.

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Thanks.

 

The package deal just looked attractive given the "a'la catre" price of the pouches. I think I might order two-for the mag holders- and then upgrade the vest at a later date. The pouches ordered on their own would really add up and this seems to get the cost way down.

 

I know this is made in China but I think i will buy a heavy duty USA made vest later and attach these mag pouches since the vest will take most of the punishment.

 

I would add a pistol belt and get the belt keepers to attach to the MOLLE vests. SpecOps Brand belts have these already (or they have on some anyway). They are just small MOLLE straps that allow you to attach the belt to bottom of vest so you have another mounting surface. I'll see if I can find a link for a picture. You can even make them using 1/2 webbing and install snaps, buttons or the "hated" velcro....lol.

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http://www.specopsbrand.com/tactical-gear/load-bearing-gear/modular-chest-rig.html

 

They are running a closeout sale. These were $90, now $29. SpecOps Brand is GREAT gear.

 

Here is the belt(s) I have. Of course I did NOT pay that much. You can probably find a better price, but at least lets you see the belt keepers.

 

http://www.specopsbrand.com/tactical-gear/belts/iba-battle-belt.html

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I would add a pistol belt and get the belt keepers to attach to the MOLLE vests. SpecOps Brand belts have these already (or they have on some anyway). They are just small MOLLE straps that allow you to attach the belt to bottom of vest so you have another mounting surface. I'll see if I can find a link for a picture. You can even make them using 1/2 webbing and install snaps, buttons or the "hated" velcro....lol.

 

For the Pistol i was planning on buying one that went on my leg and could alson be attached via Molle. Sometimes I woudl want just to carry the pistol without vest.

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Haven't been here a while, but here is what I did to get a belt on my chest rig in Iraq... I mounted the mag pouches low, and then attached a black hawk molle belt to the rig via the pouches. It worked awesome. i used the belt to secure the rig in the back, replacing the rear buckle n the chest rig itself. I sadly sold the rig to a fellow Marine before i got out, and have been wishing that I had not. One good cheap chestrig you can buy, if you dont mind it being in woodland patter, is the RACK system (Ranger Assault Carry Kit). the rig by itself is around $20 depending where you get it (I got one off of Ebay). I am planning on doing the same thing to my MOPC that I did to my chest rig, except with a Voodoo belt I bought on Ebay. This way, I should be able to get a buttpack on the setup, and put the gear under the arms a little lower, making the whole getup more comfy. I will put pictures up when I get it done. To aid in holding it all together, i bought some of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/290613189769?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Combine the chest rig, with a belt like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACKHAWK-STRIKE-PADDED-MOLLE-PISTOL-WEB-BELT-COYOTE-TAN-SIZE-37-42-/230756515314?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35ba28fdf2 just have the buckle in the back. works awesome. Also adds some realestate for those extra things you really want to carry. Be forewarned though, you will not be able to use a bib if the rig has one, it will have to be removed or tuck away. But is still rocks. I am sold on Condor BTW. i bought a molle super buttpack http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CONDOR-TAN-MILITARY-MODULAR-BUTT-PACK-BACKPACK-/300673966219?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460190a08b and it is just as good as the Blackhawk version so far. just as robust. And I got mine for $20... I love Ebay... (Similar stuff from Blackhawk goes for $60.)

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