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If this has been addressed previously feel free to slap me. I drive hazmat trucks which restricts my normal EDC bag. I carry enough gear to get home which I estimate at around 4 days walking on average. However, due to the nature of my work I can't have my usual compliment of firearms. I'm out of ideas. If TSHTF I don't like the idea of being defenseless until I can make it home. I've looked at miniature crossbows but I don't think they have enough power to be much use. Thought this might interest some. I know I can't be the only traveling individual out in the world of the awakened.

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actually, I had one of those mini cross bows, and i was surprised by how potent they were. I got one that I recall was a bit heavier duty that the usual, can't remeber the draw weight, but it had enough force to punch through a 55gal drum at fifteen paces.

 

Other than that, some of the guys on here have discussed slingshots with lead ball hauling a lot of pain down range.

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If this has been addressed previously feel free to slap me. I drive hazmat trucks which restricts my normal EDC bag. I carry enough gear to get home which I estimate at around 4 days walking on average. However, due to the nature of my work I can't have my usual compliment of firearms. I'm out of ideas. If TSHTF I don't like the idea of being defenseless until I can make it home. I've looked at miniature crossbows but I don't think they have enough power to be much use. Thought this might interest some. I know I can't be the only traveling individual out in the world of the awakened.

 

i'm a 18 wheeler also.some bow's are easy to carry,being accurate 150 yds..some futher with more practice,and low winds.sling shots are also effective.other than that,you have to make choices.but think it thru completely.do u cross the border?

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No, I don't cross the border. D.O.T Hazmat laws restrict my weapon choices if that's what you're wondering. I considered my bow, but my rig barely has enough room for my equipment and myself. Yes, I can and do carry a SOG. It has to date ran crack heads off my steps on two different occasions. Its not a huge problem but I'm one who is never without a gun, so I find it disconcerting when I'm forced to be without. A pig sticker just doesn't quite suffice.

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Are you restricted from firearms or gunpowder? Reason being, and I don't know what kind of punch it'd pack, but the 22 powered cement nailer and nails might be a winner. I didn't get a good look at them today but I know they offer the single shoot and I have heard they offer semi as well. I was thinking about them for Sarti, the prepper who lost his right to carry.

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As far as I know, the restrictions only apply to firearms. I need to see if ammo is restricted. If not, that opens some new possibilities. Honestly, the whole situation bothers me and it should bother anyone. At the current rate that civility is declining added on to the growing possibilities of man-made and natural disasters (EMP, solar flares, etc), the likelihood of getting stranded a long distance from home is increasing. The thought of being stranded without weapons and possibly without communications is beginning to weigh on my mind more now that my home is in good shape.

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lrb,

If you run a scheduled route, you might consider a cache closer to the end of your route than home. Look at the communications section for commo ideas. The other thing to think about is a TASER. Again, I don't know your regs but Bear Spray is bad news but it can also blow back in your face. Would make driving impossible. TASER might work.

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Slingshot may be what I go with in the end. Its not the best option in the world but its better than nothing. It is stealthy and silence is golden and dead silent even better. As for tasers, I recently had a situation that troopers got involved. After watching them hit the guy twice in the chest and his response was to brush them off like mosquitoes, I don't put much stock in them anymore. I appreciate the ideas from everyone thus far, however I feel the thread has focused more on weapons than what I initially wished. The fault is mine. My recent conversations with fellow truckers has brought to my attention their predicament. Most are long haul (I'm regional) and are just beginning to realize where they stand from a survival stand point. Stranded for some of them could mean being months from home rather than hours or days. We've been collaborating to come up with ideas for their situation and I figured this would be a good place to look for ideas.

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dont worry ,,,be calm,,, FEMA and DHS will protect you....sorry.. I,m all for the slingshot, Taser and bow, how bout a good "tactical" walking stick? I've seen them somewhere but its been awhile, they can be used as a spear/ blowgun and have all sorts of nifty gadgets..if anyone knows of these please post,

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Slingshot may be what I go with in the end. Its not the best option in the world but its better than nothing. It is stealthy and silence is golden and dead silent even better. As for tasers, I recently had a situation that troopers got involved. After watching them hit the guy twice in the chest and his response was to brush them off like mosquitoes, I don't put much stock in them anymore. I appreciate the ideas from everyone thus far, however I feel the thread has focused more on weapons than what I initially wished. The fault is mine. My recent conversations with fellow truckers has brought to my attention their predicament. Most are long haul (I'm regional) and are just beginning to realize where they stand from a survival stand point. Stranded for some of them could mean being months from home rather than hours or days. We've been collaborating to come up with ideas for their situation and I figured this would be a good place to look for ideas.

 

I don't know the whole situation with the tazer, but I've heard anecdotal stories about them failing for year, but never seen any proof of it unless there was something mechanically wrong with them. I've been tazed, and tazed several people over the years and cannot imagine how a quality tazer in working order could fail, unless the barbs failed to make contact/penetrate. The simultaneous contraction of every single muscle in your body burn all of the energy in your muscles leaves you in a miserable crumpled pile of useless meat. If you can elaborate on the situation, even if it's just a PM to satisfy my curiosity it would be appreciated.

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I stopped as a witness to an accident. One of the men got ignorant and started fighting with the guy he hit and myself. He pulled a knife about the time a trooper and a sheriff arrived. The trooper tased him. His reply, "Shoot me again mother *&%$". The sheriff deployed his taser. Response? "Is that all you got?" They finally had to wrestle him to the ground. Both tasers hit him square in the chest with not even a twitch. I was stunned and kind of disappointed to not see the jerk flopping like fish. The only payoff was when the trooper punched him in the ear.

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I stopped as a witness to an accident. One of the men got ignorant and started fighting with the guy he hit and myself. He pulled a knife about the time a trooper and a sheriff arrived. The trooper tased him. His reply, "Shoot me again mother *&%$". The sheriff deployed his taser. Response? "Is that all you got?" They finally had to wrestle him to the ground. Both tasers hit him square in the chest with not even a twitch. I was stunned and kind of disappointed to not see the jerk flopping like fish. The only payoff was when the trooper punched him in the ear.

 

There are a lot of LEO's around here, maybe they'll see this and explain it, but that seems like a one in a million to me from my limited experience with the tool. I've heard that being wasted on muscle relaxers can reduce their effectiveness, but a guy with that many muscle relaxers in him isn't going to be much of a threat.

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Thickness of clothing can adversely effect the operation of a TASER as can drugs. Adrenalin is a VERY powerful drug and someone who is "raging" may well not succumb to the full effects of the TASER. On drugs AND raging and ...... Always have a Plan B if you're using a TASER, you may need it.

 

irb,

there is a good book, "The Long Walk" by Slavomir Rawicz http://www.amazon.com/Long-Walk-Story-Freedom-Tie/dp/B005DI66N4/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1 , about his escape from a Soviet forced labor camp in Siberia and his walk to freedom in 1941.

 

There was a group and they worked as a team. Off the top of my head, I think truckers start with a sharp edge, water, food, rope and their radio. If at all possible, go as a small group. Large groups require too much from the local area to survive easily but 4 to 7 people have the advantage of numbers plus are small enough to survive off the land if need be. I really had not thought about long haul survival but it is an interesting problem. I think keeping this thread alive for that purpose is good.

 

Perhaps a network, cross country of 'safe houses' for the truckers would be a possibility. Just thinking out loud but I'll work on it. A good thread, irb, and thank you.

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irb,

there is a good book, "The Long Walk" by Slavomir Rawicz http://www.amazon.com/Long-Walk-Story-Freedom-Tie/dp/B005DI66N4/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1 , about his escape from a Soviet forced labor camp in Siberia and his walk to freedom in 1941.

 

There was a group and they worked as a team.

 

One of the most riviting stories I read as a teen. I have a book called "True Stories of Great Escapes"(http://www.amazon.com/Stories-Great-Escapes-Charles-Vernal/dp/0895770415/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329507854&sr=8-1) that I bought in a library sale and a condensed version of that story was in it. Come to think of it, that book had a lot of great stories with principles that apply to being prepared today.

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Since I am now in my fifties and still in reasonable(subjective) shape, I have no intention of going to fist city with anyone.

My law enforcement days are gone(thankfully) and we do look for trouble, we want to ID it a LONG way off, so we can avoid itWhile we are never without firearms, in some of the more 'politically unfriendly" states we visit, I make sure to always have

My "stockman's cane". It's available online and in most ranch/farm supply stores, they are solid hickory and I added rubber tip to the bottom. I can either be fashionably "British trekking" or my limp comes back-funny how that happens. The good thing, is they ARE legal in all fifty states, and my LEO baton training makes sure Inwill win any encounter. I would strongly reccommend you get a few high intensity aluminum cased flashlights. The C-cell battery Maglite, is almost identical in size to a law enforcemnt baton diameter, and again, I do believe they are legal to carry in all fifty states. I also carry a retina-frying

flashlight to "illuminate" any area (or people) I need to. You'd be surprised how many thugs and thugettes "know" that

behind such lights are usually folks with badges and guns, and to fate, I've not had any stick around to see if I was bluffing

whicu I',m not, but helps to see the societal cockroaches flee identification. That,s a good indicator they are up to nothing

worthwhile. Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the book recommendations. I'm trying grow my library with books like these in addition to science,survival and history. The first thing I told one driver was to get in better shape. I'm still in my ignorant youth (late 20s) and still work out. This particular guy is a flabby 40 and 260lbs and makes regular runs from Alabama to California. My scenario to him was solar flares kill his ECM. He's looking at covering almost 2000 miles to get home. Its not going to be an Oregon trail necessarily but it ain't good. Oil field trucking in the desert taught me a lot about how unprepared most drivers really are. Anyway,since I'm just recently (couple of yrs) starting delve this deep into survival I figured I would pick more experienced brains. Thanks for the help and keep it coming. My ears are larger than my mouth, slightly.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect that in any large scale disaster truckers, especially specialists like Hazmat, would be pressed into service by whatever govt.

But, if you have a regular route, you might want to have mini-caches buried enough to get you from point A to b to .......Home.

Remember, your best weapon is being invisible! No weapon is foolproof, can be stolen etc.

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Thanks for the book recommendations. I'm trying grow my library with books like these in addition to science,survival and history. The first thing I told one driver was to get in better shape. I'm still in my ignorant youth (late 20s) and still work out. This particular guy is a flabby 40 and 260lbs and makes regular runs from Alabama to California. My scenario to him was solar flares kill his ECM. He's looking at covering almost 2000 miles to get home. Its not going to be an Oregon trail necessarily but it ain't good. Oil field trucking in the desert taught me a lot about how unprepared most drivers really are. Anyway,since I'm just recently (couple of yrs) starting delve this deep into survival I figured I would pick more experienced brains. Thanks for the help and keep it coming. My ears are larger than my mouth, slightly.

 

Over in the main page there are quite a few book reviews http://survivalcache.com/category/books/ that you might find of interest. If you are just starting out on books, I'd look at some of the reviews and comments and go from there.

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Over in the main page there are quite a few book reviews http://survivalcache.com/category/books/ that you might find of interest. If you are just starting out on books, I'd look at some of the reviews and comments and go from there.

 

Thanks. I have been perusing the book section and have found several I'm interested in. I don't know if the government is intelligent enough to ask drivers for anything. My experience during Hurricane Rita and Katrina says no. However, I do wonder about that scenario as well.

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