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Was wondering what ppl thought some of the most useful skills were for a short term (about a weeks) and long term survival situation (Months to forever). Let's make it everyone's top three that they think they can depend on to get them through both categories. And we'll assume that fire is a universal skill (I know it's not, but it could easily be the number one in nearly any survival skill list) and not list it. We'll also assume that your short term skills are rolled up into you long term skills.

 

Short term.

 

Orienteering: I always carry a compass personally, being able to move in a generally straight line, and being able to find your way back when foraging is more useful than you may think. But knowing how to use distant landmarks, the sun, and the stars to navigate can save your life in an unfamiliar area. Having a map, and knowing how to read it is even better. Or knowing the layout of steets and numbering of blocks in an urban environment.

 

Water assessment/prep: Being able to identify safe water sources, and make it safe, without an off the shelf filter. You never know when a filtration system is going to break/be lost/stolen, so having the skills to stay hydrated in the worst case scenario can be the difference between life and death.

 

Element Protection: Being able to prevent severe sunburns, or frostbite as an example with a bare minimum of equipment. Reason should be obvious, but being able to keep you precious body heat in when its cold, or get rid of it when it's hot without getting burned to a crisp while avoiding things like heat stroke and trench foot will keep you alive long enough to get someplace more hospitable, or get help.

 

 

Long term.

 

Foraging/savaging: This particular skill can apply to a lot of things, food, tools, medicine, etc.. but it's basically the skill to find things you need. Equally at home in the bush as it is in an urban environment. It becomes more important the longer an EOTWAWKI scenario drags on, since all the obvious places to find things will have been cleaned out by others, and you need to use the old gray matter to figure out where the less obvious places are.

 

Risk/Threat assessment: Have a basic understanding of what is or isn't dangerous, and being able to asses to what degree danger is present while making plans to control the amount of risk your taking. This can be applied to spreading fires, or bands of bad guys. Being able to asses and mitigate dangerous situations will prevent you from becoming a Darwin award recipient.

 

Weaponeering: Being able to use and maintain your chosen weapons with skill in a variety of situations. Can be used for food gathering, and defense if absolutely necessary. And depending on the weapon can be used for other things as well, but being able to get 110% of of your weapons can make getting by a little easier.

 

These are just some of the skills that I place higher value in, I look forward to seeing the skills other folks prefer.

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firearms, hunting, fishing, medical, military and survival skills, carpentry or engineering ( for building nice little things like OPs, temp shelters, outhouses and the like), mechanical like Cars and other things. just a few off the top of my head that would be essential skills

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well, i guess that covers it all, wardog. thread makes me uncomfortable. willing helper (think wood and tinder gatherer and hauler of lite provisions, protector (firearm skills), and creative scavenger and re-purposer of things. long term, bee-keeper (did this as a teen), food gardener, and small livestock caregiver, basic cook or prep cook, and chief bottle-washer. caregiver for the very young, and the old and infirm. thread makes me uncomfortable.... guess i have some growing to do. i guess that's cause not everybody has high-level skills. i guess some of us have to do the basics.

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uncomfortable is good, so don't apologize. uncomfortable is often the catalyst to change. makes me think.

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Shouldn't your long term skills lean more towards the task of rebuilding? Especially if your talking years.

 

I've come to accept the fact that in a EOTAWKI situation I'll most likely be on my own, painful but true. So my personal priority of skills is based on that assumption. Now further down the list from my top three valued skills there are skills that could be put to use for rebuilding, but for getting by I don't feel their essential to me.

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You all hit some good ones. This could very easily turn into a conversation about building a "survival group/community". I'm personally focusing on medical skills, mechanical aptitude, and weapon proficiency. One thing I'm always on the look out for in people who I would want around in a SHTF or worse event is creativity. Creativity is what almost every advancement in our society has come from.

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You all hit some good ones. This could very easily turn into a conversation about building a "survival group/community". I'm personally focusing on medical skills, mechanical aptitude, and weapon proficiency. One thing I'm always on the look out for in people who I would want around in a SHTF or worse event is creativity. Creativity is what almost every advancement in our society has come from.

 

X2 + 2.

Becoming knowledgeable about first aid, and beyond first aid. Knowledge of the human body can't be more important. When TSHTF, people and maybe you, WILL be injured. Caring for your own wounds will save your life. IMO most the medically profeceint will be taking care of their own or so overwhelmed they may not be able to help you, or may not be able to get to you as far as that is concerned.

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in no particular order

 

 

selling and negotiating. logistics. navigational skills. teaching. carpentry. woodworking. Machinist. welding. permaculture design. primitive cooking and food storage. medical training. electrical engineering.

herb knowledge.

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for long term survival books as well as hand tools need to be gathered and some projects

 

to test our skill and help us to find our niche

 

I do not mean to belittle anyone but construction skills we have now without power tools

 

will be only good for abstract thinking and problem solving as it will change if major electrical damage

 

or interruptions happen and last a long period of time and hand tools that we use today will not be used

 

as we use them now as you cannot drive a self tapping metal screw with a hand powered drill

 

we have tools today that make old style tools a joke but also it will make dis-assembly harder

 

try to use a hand hack saw in place of a sawsall or remove a deck screw with a hand screw driver.

 

and air tools that we take for granted without power will make thing harder and take longer.

 

carpentry and some shipwright skills like sail making and wood working ship board

 

I know these skills to a minor degree I can pin and wedge wood with out nails build furniture

 

rope and leather braiding plating and knot work with these skills you can make block and tackles, rope

 

hand tools like a lacing / stitching pony but it does take a few tools to make it easy like a sewing palm

 

a lace cutter, hand held hole punch kit, and a strap cutter these tools can be used with canvass and

 

other materials.

 

you can make hammocks and nets and there will be a ton of usable material

 

soldering and riveting as welding may not be viable but we should have some experience with stick

 

welding.

 

some basic wiring 12 volt and ac a time life basic wiring book will get you through most home needs

 

knowing about lead and how to make objects like arrow heads cast bullets and bushings

 

dehydrating food smoking meat and salting and brineing foods making sausage and cheese

 

making alcohol like wine beer liqueur and for medicine and making balms and oils etc..

 

soap making and candle making buying old cooking oils and grease and use for trade

 

making pumps from found materials like PVC and wood as well as a bellows for pumping with air

 

and stoking fire for blacksmithing

 

how to make chemicals from I wont get into it but think about it

 

hydraulics and pneumatics levers and pulleys screw jacks and pumps

 

gardening and collecting seed and storing as well as natural pesticides and how to make and use them

 

as much medical knowledge as you can use

 

I remember the time before all these wonderful and time saving devices were available

 

how many of you have a case of nails or a wood case of bolts and washers or a keg of these

 

that is how they came we used hand tools away from home as if you were in a field where were

 

you going to find power we were limited by the length of a power cord or what gas tools we could

 

find to use generators were around but were expensive and we knew how to use hand tools so we did .

 

all I know is young people are going to sh*t when the lights go out.

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X2 + 2.

Becoming knowledgeable about first aid, and beyond first aid. Knowledge of the human body can't be more important. When TSHTF, people and maybe you, WILL be injured. Caring for your own wounds will save your life. IMO most the medically profeceint will be taking care of their own or so overwhelmed they may not be able to help you, or may not be able to get to you as far as that is concerned.

 

In my case I'm 4 months from getting my RN. There's a surprising amount of medical training available for the non medical community if you know where to look. CERT and the American Heart Assoc offer a lot of differerent courses. I haven't checked, but I hear that there is some training available through Community Colleges too.

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In my case I'm 4 months from getting my RN. There's a surprising amount of medical training available for the non medical community if you know where to look. CERT and the American Heart Assoc offer a lot of differerent courses. I haven't checked, but I hear that there is some training available through Community Colleges too.

 

yes i've been wanting to get into a cert program,but time is my problem.being a truck driver.

if i was more high tec i'd take a home study corse in herbs.

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Skills I have or am working on that I think would benefit me and a survival community:

 

1. Teaching: Not just education but just about any skill that is already in my repertoire. Also, many people have a skill but don't really know how to teach it. I know how to train people to teach. It sounds kinda silly but thats what I do for a living. I also know how to train animals (any animal).

2. Communicating via Radio: I'm JUST getting started in this and have barely put my feet in the water, but as I think this is an extremely useful skill to have. Not just knowing how to use it but also how to set up a station, tune a set up, and communicate very long distances.

3. Marksmanship: Another skill that I have barely developed but am actively engaging in to develop. Useful for obvious reasons: Hunting and Self-defense

 

Skills I'd like to eventually develop:

 

4. Mechanical Skills: I'm better at diagnosing problems than replacing parts but I'm looking forward to the day where my best friend (who is a mechanic) and I can build a motor together. I have done some pretty hard-core repairs on my cars, but always with a more knowledgeable friend.

5. Self Defense: I plan to eventually get started with some form of martial arts. But I'd also like to learn how to set up defensive positions or work as a unit in a tactical fight.

6. Fishing + Gutting/Cleaning animals: I have fished a few times but I probably have A LOT to learn.

7. Snaring: I'd love to learn how to set up snares/traps to catch animals. Its probably the most effective way to get food.

8. Medical Tx: I'd like to learn some basic medical treatment, including how to suture a wound.

9. Gardening: I'd love to learn some basic gardening for self-reliance.

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well, i guess that covers it all, wardog. thread makes me uncomfortable. willing helper (think wood and tinder gatherer and hauler of lite provisions, protector (firearm skills), and creative scavenger and re-purposer of things. long term, bee-keeper (did this as a teen), food gardener, and small livestock caregiver, basic cook or prep cook, and chief bottle-washer. caregiver for the very young, and the old and infirm. thread makes me uncomfortable.... guess i have some growing to do. i guess that's cause not everybody has high-level skills. i guess some of us have to do the basics.

 

honestly man don't feel uncomfortable at all, you are here which means you are learning what to do.. which is why I am here, i preach those skills as good skills sets but im only proficient in about a quarter of them myself. Even after being a Marine and growing up with a father with the end of the world mindset I feel im sorely lacking in skills myself But i keep and open mind and try to listen and learn from those who do have those skills.

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Wardog, I just had to comment on your sig. Of all the amazing things "The Dean" said that is probably one of the best. Humans should have breadth of ability, not just depth, flexibility is one of our best traits. Semper Gumby :D

 

truth..id rather be a jack of all trades than a specialist in only one

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You all hit some good ones. This could very easily turn into a conversation about building a "survival group/community". I'm personally focusing on medical skills, mechanical aptitude, and weapon proficiency. One thing I'm always on the look out for in people who I would want around in a SHTF or worse event is creativity. Creativity is what almost every advancement in our society has come from.

 

Hear Hear !!!! We are all striving to learn and be as prepared as we can be.... but let's be honest alot of prepared people will go brain-dead when things go crazy. Some may be injured and all those plans go out the window. People who can think outside the box, container, or bunker will be in short supply and high demand. Knowledge and skills are teachable and can be learned. Give me Survival 101's brain and eagerness to learn anyday! (Plus she isn't hard on the eyes !!! )

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Hear Hear !!!! We are all striving to learn and be as prepared as we can be.... but let's be honest alot of prepared people will go brain-dead when things go crazy. Some may be injured and all those plans go out the window. People who can think outside the box, container, or bunker will be in short supply and high demand. Knowledge and skills are teachable and can be learned. Give me Survival 101's brain and eagerness to learn anyday! (Plus she isn't hard on the eyes !!! )

 

I do not think so I am not leaving my Bug in for a long time and I am not planning on teaching anyone

 

squat every time I have they take it and leave you in the dust PDQ just like China they did not know

 

many industrial secrets like continuous manufacturing process and thousands more after of a

 

hammer polisher got in the big white home for 8 years and let every nations PHD's come in and pee

 

in our pool and then eat all the cake and ice cream and did not even bring a present to the party.

 

and higher educations philosophy of share and be friends interchange of ideas

 

and the free and unfettered flow of information RIGHT OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AND NOTHING CAME BACK.

 

they steal copyrighted material of any sort and sell it all over the pacific rim stolen all our customers

 

for any chemical you can name vinegar, acids, batteries, hand, tools, medications, packaging

 

that is why your kids don't have a job and your job is hanging by a CHAD "hanging chad remember"

 

we the people have voted these clowns in I railed for years about this and all I heard was were making

 

money the economy is flourishing until the Dow hit 14,000 then it slid to just under 7,000

 

and it is going to happen again how soon I do not know we are creating another housing bubble .

 

MY POINT IN THIS THREAD why would I do what caused the demise of our system share information

 

as soon as I teach someone how to do x I just created a competitor {but competition is the life's blood

 

of blah blah blah} in the past families held there secrets for generations how long before we found out

 

about the 14 different spices in KFC hummmmmmmmm......

 

IT"S a socialist idea freely give flow of ideas blah blah the socialists gave housing because they murdered

 

the previous owners they had no vested interest and then they had block captains to oversee and snitch

 

on any unhappy soul My Bible says those who do not work do not eat and in 7 years you let them go

 

and start their own business but in those days there was control now if you have a client list and they

 

find it your out of business how about China mart they killed the MOM and POP cornerstone

 

if China wanted to the could stop paying their employee's and terminate shipping products and

 

this country would sink like the titanic "it will never happen" LMAO if you could go through 1 year of

 

pain and live like a king the rest of your life wouldn't you that is all they have to do and then force

 

all the other countries to back a boycott on U.S. /US they hate us anyway and are beholden to China

 

it is the same trap on a local scale I am not training anyone after "bad day at black rock" TEOTWAWKI

 

or whatever you want to call it you have all better learn it now free lessons I have given anyone

 

web sites, lists of equipment and stores as well as posted how important things like knowing how to

 

make concrete vinegar soap weak acid do you know where aspirin comes from can you spin weave

 

or make a loom do you know how to build a windmill or make a old stone grist mill how to make a

 

solar water heater, build traps from found material I ain't going to sell my traps I will sell the food

 

give a man a fish and he will eat for a day teach a man to fish and he will cut your throat at market

 

and undersell you.

 

All of you better understand this simple principle now before you get ground into dust while the internet

 

is kicking better amass all the knowledge you can and PRINT IT your kindle may not work........

 

and then write it down have you ever printed something and years later you cannot read it because it

 

faded out and do not teach it sell it college does not give away their information and they pad it

 

and package it to make maximum profit and then your on the hook for government loans

 

{but I got a grant} you think there is a magic tree in the woods that sh*ts education grant money?????

 

they steal your money and give it to whom they choose and its not you you work you make to much

 

but they are poor and unwashed we need to nurture them in a socialist training camp????

 

harvard, mit, yale, princeton, vasser, blah blah blah we have been drowned in a sea of stories of

 

raving left wing professors and still they have waiting lists at the schools LMAO

 

you have a chance to learn and buy books and download PDF's NOW take advantage of it

 

but you need the tools of the trade or knowledge is virtually worthless IMHO.

 

and read some history they the educated were in high demand the NAZI's

herded them up and forced them or work or be shot.

and those that had any testicles at all were herded into death camps and

gassed and therefore the short supply LMAO....

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