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JJ..

"IF I was your next door neighbor, AND I don't know you 'prepped', I'd beg for food if I was hungry. IF 300,000,000 people flee the cities, name me one realistic place ANYONE could hide. Let's educate the public; not plan to kill them WHEN they show up"

 

na·ive

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adjective

1.

having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.

 

2.

having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous: She's so naive she believes everything she reads. He has a very naive attitude toward politics.

 

3.

having or marked by a simple, unaffectedly direct style reflecting little or no formal training or technique:

 

JMHO JJ is NAIVE,,,with the "Money" he is making I hope he gives away as much food TODAY as what he expects others to do when TSHTF..

 

NG as always,makes a fool out of Preping,and Im tired of explaining the difference to friends.

The "Good" that has come out of it is"It started a conversation" on what to do IF TSHTF and as always it was taken out of content.

 

Thank Goodness we have forums like this to realy talk and share our conserns..

 

NO I dont like JJ or his methods..Just being honest!!

And JJ PM me if you would like to? I took offence at the last reference you had to me and Im not over it yet YOU CLOWN,Dress up and act like something your NOT for Money!!

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Its Holy week and Im asking for Forgivness as it is..

 

But if a BUG bites me I kill it,normal reaction!! Insult me about my knowledge or education or my failure to correctley write or communitate just means to me "You Think your Better Than Me".

 

Im no better than anyone else,Im still learning and NOT there yet!

 

Its about being responsible what what you say!!!!! Tell me Im uneducated and I will willingly show you some of the things Im educated in.

Sorry now I got to go ask for forgivness AGAIN..

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I agree with most of what you said. Open firing on people threw a scope is almost never self defense.

 

On the other hand there's a few things worth knowing about California large capacity magazine laws. First possession of Large capacity magazines are not illegal. It say so with in the assault weapons ban guide. what is illegal is importing, manufacturing, buying or selling (I think a few more items are listed). What you need to know about this is it's a misdemeanor with a statue of limitations set at 3 years. So if they want to get you they have to prove you illegally acquired the magazines in the last 3 years which gets much harder the older the magazines are. If he owned those magazines before the ban went into effect he is safe. The firearm laws a mess out here but there's still a good number of loop holes.

 

Good info, thanks. I had heard that if you had them from before you were grandfathered. But I wasn't sure and didn't know specifically what the rules were. Good to know.

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JJ..

YOU CLOWN,Dress up and act like something your NOT for Money!!

 

Please - since I'm naive - please tell me what money you keep talking about. I definitely am a 'clown' and I do find 'Dress Up' fun. post-1181-13851497942511_thumb.jpg

"Now fill your pantries you 'Sons of Bisquick!" John Wayne, for the NatGeo "2012 Survival Tips Comedy Show". <All on the editing room floor - boohoo>

 

Sir, I appreciate your skepticism of a 'Character' like me. I'm an arrogant, self-promoting asshole AND I'm an Emmy-nominated Photojournalist, married for 31 years and I've raised two wonderful men. I am the Best of Men and I am the Worst of Men.

 

Here is what I attempt - every day: "When I walk away from people, are They better off for my having been there?" Am I better off for having You in my life? YES - you keep me honest. With Love, Your Fan, Jack Jobe - Walk About Prepared™

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okie dokie.

 

Wow... Just want to say. I see it both ways. Jack, your segment wasn't bad. Pretty cool. Ok, I did smile at the knife segment, but I know how hard role play is when you first try it. You always feel silly at first. And of course, Nat Geo cuts em as they see em. I really thought you were sincere in your sentiment that you'd rather teach your neighbor than kill them.

 

As to the brewing disagreement: Everybody is different, and not always gonna be in agreement with you or on your good side. Perhaps what got Matt off on a rant was the word "Spokesperson." I just want to point out that we are all spokespersons for being prepared, whether we actively promote it on TV, on the internet, or quietly, passively through our own preps or presence on a forum. Perhaps the choice of word was unfortunate. The large community of preppers in the U.S. are a very disparate and independent group, but our common goal is survival and preparedness.

 

Take a deep breath and let the other guy do his own thing. If there is nothing there for you to learn, about yourself or about prepping, walk away. This is not a winner takes all game. It is a losers don't live through it game. And if you are a humanist, then it matters not how they live, learn, or survive, only that they do. Human survival is an ethical imperative.

 

I see in the past couple of days that Jack picked up a trademarked signature. Okay, that's kind of commercial. I was hoping you weren't the get rich quick kind you were being painted as. This is about survival, not leaving an unimportant trademarked legacy. But, to be fair, the guy after yours was selling seeds. And the other dude was selling his crovel. And the folks running this forum are trying to support it via e-commerce. I guess everybody has their own idea of the moral construct. And, everybody has to make a living.

 

So, it's not something I'd do. Go on NatGeo, but that's not what I feel called to do. I'm just trying to figure it out, and learn something. There's really no need for me to care if you got dollars or publicity. My deal is my deal, and your deal is your deal. Life is like that. Thanks for what I learned from your segment, and good luck to you. Matt, I understand your frustration, but walk on... There are more important issues to address.

 

Peace.

 

~J

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J:

 

>>>> I was hoping you weren't the get rich quick kind you were being painted as.

 

Where is this Money you people keep talking about? I'm on Social Security although I am working to get off asap. NatGeo paid nothing; FoxNews paid nothing. Radio & Blogcasts nothing. This forum isn't about how 'broke' I am.

 

Let us focus on Survival. I 'trademarked' a new rescue tool but it's in the prototype phase, not sellable. I picked "Walk About Prepared™" because it is the most intelligent slogan I could think of. And, "Let's get ready to Rubble" was taken by Michael Buffer.

 

IF you watched "Doomsday" (S1E9) - you know that Jacquie and I are new at "prepping", so I come here for ideas. I'm 'journaling' what I'm learning as I go. My survival articles on Instructables.com have taught 30,000+ viewers - no advertising - no money. AND, you 'Forum writers' who have shared your wisdom with me about EDC, 72 Hour Bags & BOBs are "publicly teaching" To me - and Thru me.

 

I agree with your evaluations. I am a Giant Ego & an Asshole, good at publicity and promotion, but at 66, I know I've 'harmed' way too many people during my life and I'd like to 'go out' doing good. IF I can save one person - IF I can shift someone's thinking - IF I can help someone laugh and learn ------

 

Please - Judge me on what I give back to our "Survival Preparedness" community. Here's my voice and writing "Letter to my Children - Lessons from Haiti and Japan". (8 minutes - no sales - pure Survival Basics)

 

“Your video embodies everything that should be championed. You identify very real issues and practicalities: you empower people. You show how to keep on living and most importantly why to keep on living." Bill Williams, Energy Consultant

 

PS: IF you'd rather 'chuckle', try my first Survival Tip video

. (55 seconds)

 

Teach me more and I'll teach the World!

 

From a friend you haven't met yet.

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I can not speak for anyone else nor will I try. I for one look at Doomsday preppers with disdain at its representation of the preparedness community I do still watch it because it occasionally has a descent tidbit and because some of it is so absurd it makes me laugh. That being said I also know natgeo is intentionally editting the show and choosing people who are inexperienced, on the edge (or edited to be on the edge) or selling crap at the expense of others. None of these portrayals is flatering and it has hurt my credibility and I have never been on the show and natgeo is doing a real disservice to the masses by downplaying disasters. People listen to," its not likely" and say why should I waste the money being prepared for an emergency I have trouble convincing people to put the basic gov recomended kit together and we all understand that the recommended kit is woefully inadeqate. I believe that this show will bring some on board but will push the overwhelming majority away and will make us out to be what the survivalist became in the 1980s that rep has never recovered the population looks at them as a punch line truth be told we are survivalist so why did we stop calling ourselves that oh yeah the Burt Gummer perception the the media blew out of proportion so we changed the name to more accurately reflect our views and here comes natgeo tryimg to make a mockery of us again but what those moronic producers do not see is they are actually going to get people killed because the see it as a joke and a lot of this society believes the damned television especially National Geographic most of us can see that natgeo has turned into a for entertainment monster instead of educational like they used to be but the masses do not the are still going off their old rep.

Jack I do not hold you responsible I do not fully know you reasons for being on the show I do know you and your wife need more training a lot of it and I encourage you to get it and truly be prepared (that great old Boy Scout motto) but overall I see Doomsday Preppers as detrimental to personal preperedness the seriousness in which we are taken and our overall credibility again not your fault Jack but you put yourself out there so your a target for those that see us as kooks and for those who preparedness is deadly serious you had to see that coming in all fairness. Media exposure is always a double edged sword. The real question for all of us is how do we correct this perception and injustice. The real experts wouldnt be caught dead on this show or working with them none of us that are dead serious will out ourselves or risk our families by going public so what do we do??? I do not have an answer for this one.

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All I can say is being new to prepping myself I dont think I could ever go on tv to try to teach people. I also do watch the show for some things I may not have thought of, but also to see what not to do. The show has definately not helped get my wife on board. Shes slowly coming around but more out of her seeing how the world is and the need to be ready for more short-term disasters. When I try talking to any family about prepping they imediately think of the show and treat it like a joke. Overall I would have to say the show has had more of a negative impact on prepping. This website has ben the best source of info for me.

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Sorry but these shows really don't appeal to me anymore. Takes time away from my preps and draws to much attention to my field

 

Ditto. Smiley. Your statement reminds me of the joke about the farmer - He was outstanding in his field.

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I record every thing on DVR so I can FF past the commercials but these episodes are getting so so well ill keep my opinion to myself that i find myself FF past most of the show IM now whatching yhe the lady in Helena MT hiding stuff every were in her house not bad good hiding spots

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I record every thing on DVR so I can FF past the commercials but these episodes are getting so so well ill keep my opinion to myself that i find myself FF past most of the show IM now whatching yhe the lady in Helena MT hiding stuff every were in her house not bad good hiding spots

 

That was really helpful to me too. She was creative.

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Survival100 you are correct

"Perhaps what got Matt off on a rant was the word "Spokesperson."

for a selfconfessed new prepper this realy got under my skin.I have a big enough mouth to speak for myself ,Thank you very much..

 

warrior7r.."but overall I see Doomsday Preppers as detrimental to personal preperedness the seriousness in which we are taken and our overall credibility again not your fault Jack but you put yourself out there so your a target for those that see us as kooks and for those who preparedness is deadly serious you had to see that coming on all fairness. "

 

He said it better than I could..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I have made my "PEACE" and I hope I have not offended too many.The time to Prep is now,GET READY and stay grey because the Tidlal wave is coming and soon.

 

JJ I hope you learn as much as you can and are preped for what is soon to happen!!

 

Love is the most powerfull thing...putting it to action is the hardest!!

 

Just a word for the DAY..

“‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

 

Be blessed today..

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I am almost speechless after seeing tonights episode Mr Wayne is definately on his way to prison has single handedly made preppers look like dangerous terroristic lunatics please tell me that that utter moron is not among us and I will warn everybody who may be considering going on TV for any reason not to imitate or try to surpass that STUPID FOOL!!!!!!

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I am almost speechless after seeing tonights episode Mr Wayne is definately on his way to prison has single handedly made preppers look like dangerous terroristic lunatics please tell me that that utter moron is not among us and I will warn everybody who may be considering going on TV for any reason not to imitate or try to surpass that STUPID FOOL!!!!!!
I agree making pipe bombs WTH and hes doing it on TV doomsday preppers, bunker nuts, whatever it is is the reason I tell no one I pep 1 no one needs to know what I do 2 don't want any one even think i'm like these people Just saw a video on the Internet of some teenage kid trying to set off a bomb by some lake well from the looks of it he has no right hand left so I hope no one who watches this episode don't try to copy it please ..

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I only caught the end where the furniture shop guy couldn't figure out that furnishing his basement would make his family feel more comfortable. Even with a son and wife afraid of how empty and creepy it looked. All she would say is I love my husband.
what a >>>> well not going there to spend all ur money on preparing is not to smart what about his kid education saying the world didn't end any time soon Im all for being prepared and I feel i am but Im living for time time being now do I worry about things in this county /world I do but please

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For those who did not catch it. A not so inteligent individual calling himself Mister Wayne demonstrates what you need to build a pipe bomb then how to make a pipe bomb then detonates it all on national television all the while nat geo's voice box talking about how it is a federal crime to do precisely that. Then to prove his utter lack of intelligence he shows where on his land he is placing them and his fields of fire. So dangerous and stupid.

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warrior7r, i could not agree more. on the positive side, his sidekick was casting bullets, and it made me think that is a viable post-TEOTWAWKI business. Black powder keeps forever in a sealed plastic container, and bulk lead, molds and supplies are easily available to stock up on now.

 

however, the folks in the middle, who were buying coins and a shipping container were just average folks, and it impressed me that they seemed sensible, and were not doing anything outrageous.

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It seems like the show throws one or two lunitics in the mix for entertainment/ratings. I find myself starting to fall asleep during the show. I think theres some good info but it seems like theres less and less on that show. I told my wife with the pipebomb guy the same the same thing "He will be in jail pretty soon." I guess some of the people on the show didnt learn from the guy in the first episode that had his guns taken away.

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On another point Ive seen a lot more commercials for prepping gear. Saw one last night for Emergency Essentials. Last time I ordered from there it took almost two weeks just for the order to be ready to ship. I think a lot of prepping stuff is going to get expensive and be harder and harder to get.

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One word sums it up"Dumbass"..

after Eng.training and 2 1/2 years working with the German Military(old WW2 mines)and haveing my blasting card in 75 all I can say is"DONT GO THERE""you will loose a hand,eye,family member!!!

 

there is NO reason to make what he did!!!!

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was the title of last nights show"AND THEN THE NUT JOBS COME OUT?" what 3 year old cant make a pipe bomb......and those same 3 year olds would know not to do it on film.

 

and putting a time on when you think doomsday will arrive is a good way to drive yourself crazy.......just quit being lazy and ALWAYS be prepared....tomorrow more than today until you reach your goals.

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