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barbie.dragon

Hello from the Bay Area in California!

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Hello ladies and gentlemen!

I've been browsing through the forums and I finally decided to introduce myself...

I'm the typical broke college student (just bought textbooks, how depressing) and is jumping into the survival game. Currently I have nothing in hand to help me survive. Having a very tight budget doesnt really help with the situation but we all need to make do with what we have right?

I live in California (south bay which is around san jose) and one thing I need to prepare for are earthquakes! I just started ordering basic equipment to help prep for any SHTF experiences. Since I have a limited budget I'm taking everything really slow.

So far I ordered a 300+piece first aid kit, long burning candles, candle lantern (UCO candelier) and a fire starting thing (swedish army firestart or something like that.) I'm planning to order many more things in the near future!

Right now I am deciding if I should buy an ALICE backpack (I found a new one for $48 with the frame, with shipping). The ALICE backpacks are gigantic though, does anyone know of a good backpack with numerous compartments that is smaller than the MED size ALICE pack? I'm planning to use my backpack as a school bag too and having a LG ALICE pack is... Well, it's too big. I don't want to draw attention especially if anything happened at school! I don't want people to realize that I might have stuff in there to survive. I'm also REALLY tempted to buy a swedish military trangia mess kit (they seem so... useful! but they're selling at $60 plus $18 for shipping...)

I'm interested in learning to shoot (guns) and go hunting. Never too late to start anything! If any of you guys know about stuff like this feel free to post about it! I have no previous gun or hunting experience and any leads are going to be helpful! Being female I would appreciate other female members to contribute to what I should get in a BOB or a EDC since I feel like preparedness and surivival mentality is a little different for women then men...

So here's a few things to help you guys learn more about me as a normal human being (I stole these questions from another introduction thread. SOrry :D) Some of the answers will be pitiful... Like I said! Just starting!

1. Please describe your Every Day Carry?

Chapstick, gum, cell phone, wallet with no money. Maybe like ten bucks if I'm having a good day...

2. Favorite Bug Out Pistol?

No gun :(

 

3. Favorite Concealed Carry Pistol?

no gun...

4. Favorite Bug Out Rifle or Carbine?

fml no gun

5. Favorite Rifle or Carbine?

D: D: D:

6. Favorite Shotgun?

T_T

7. The amount of food you have at your house?

not very much at all. lots of perishables though

 

8. Name your top 7 items in your Bug Out Bag?

...

9. Describe your Bug Out Location, if you have one?

none, i live in a suburb but I guess I could always hike up the santa cruz mountains

10. Describe your Bug Out Vehicle?

honda civic or the accord

11. Describe your Bug Out Bag?

nada

12. Favorite home defense pistol?

none so far, hopefully very soon

13. Favorite home defense Rifle/Shotgun?

D:

14. Favorite Survival Book?

Hmm I read quite a few, I don't really have a favorite. They all just kinda blend together in my brain

15. Favorite Survival Type Movie?

- Book of Eli, most zombie movies (modern pl0x), favorite TV show is The Walking Dead!

 

16. Survival Knife?

eep!

17. Survival Tools in Your Kit?

A crowbar, weird looking hammer,

 

18. THing that worries me the most in a SHTF situation:

People. I think people are probably the most dangerous thing in a SHTF situation. Especially the ones that aren't prepared because everyone changed when their lives are in danger for the better or worse. Tlking about people, I Live in a condo (many neighbors). What do yo uguys think about helping others in a SHTF situation? THere are around 20 other units in the community... Perhaps this topic should be another thread or soemthing

 

So yeah, feel free to laugh as you read the list of sad faces and unpreparedness! Better to start now then never~!!

sorry I sound like a spazz, I'm really not, but I'm just super excited to hear from you guys. toodles!

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lol welcome aboard barbie.

yes you should get you a backpack. it will help keep everything together for if you have to grab and go.

you sound a lot like the rest of us when we started out, confused and not knowing in which direction to go but full of spunk and willing to go.

well your on the right track. you know a threat can happen at any time and your wanting to do what you can to prep for it or anything else. thats a big part of it right there, just knowing.

reading and belonging to a forum you feel comfortable with it also a big part of everything.

so good, you have 2 of the biggies under your belt and heading in the right direction. you stated that you wanted to also hear from the ladies on here. yes survival can be a very different mindset for the ladies than the men, but, our gear will often be the same. do keep that in mind. the ladies on here are exceptional in my opinion and will offer a different flavor to the whole thing as well.

but yes, go get that pack, its a good pack and at a great price too. plus there are tons of customizations you can do to it. all on youtube too.

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oh, we dont have a great many women on the forum yet but we are growing stronger as each one joins

the forum. so it might take ya a few posts before ya get a females point of view to it all.

please, get in here and ask all your questions and post up your opinions. this site is very COED friendly

indeed. the more ladies we can get in here the more we can get involved in prepping.

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Hi, Barbie. Welcome aboard. I'm one of the (pitifully) few females we have here, so it's very nice to have a young one join.

OK, backpack: Get what you can afford right now and think dual-use (for your books plus EDC). I would recommend that you start going to the thrift stores and the big flea-market you have in San Jose. You'll be able to find a lot of equipment a lot cheaper than ordering online. Your $ are tight, so make them count.

For defense: keep a roll of quarters with you at all times, wrap some tape around it. You have that in your fist you can really punch somebody out pretty good. If your college offers a martial arts or self-defense course, take it!

Always have a bottle of water and at least some protein bars with you. Spend some time reading some of the various threads, I'm sure you will get some good ideas you can make work for you. Remember, we all started small!!

Anything we can do to help, don't hesitate to ask. You're among friends.

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welcome to the boards. it would be my guess that not a single person will laugh. (actually your name made me smile but only because they are drastically contrasting and a very interesting selection) everyone starts with nothing, but not a great many people acquire the interest, knowledge and foresight of this type and for that you are a step ahead of the game, ESPECIALLY in your neck of the woods. the hardest thing about your "journey" will be prioritizing things. it will take a long time to acquire a decent comfort level but dont let it overwhelm you. and like many things in life, you likely will never feel done.

 

as a fellow californian, i have unique knowledge of preparing for quakes and that being your primary concern i can assist you greatly. start with basics. food / water. since your in college, you likely have not yet developed a taste for the finer foods in life. when i was in college i was on the top ramen diet. top ramen and some tapatio sauce or tabasco or whatever you like can feed you for a week easily. ill try to assemble a nice little quake list for you and post in a little bit. but you have taken the biggest and hardest step in the process. moving forward and starting. again welcome.

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Hi Barbie and welcome. Great to have another lady among us. Femvet mentioned thrift stores. Don't forget Dollar Stores (maybe they're $2 in Cali. Lol). I've probably outfitted a third of my family's BOB's from them. We all struggle with priorities when we get started. Also, check out Cali gun laws for the future. I'm sure you'll have some challenges there. In the meantime get some pepper spray.

 

Your first assignment should be the reading of this forum...as much as you can...tons of info and some great insight for beginners, like me and you

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Welcome to the forum. Sounds like you are getting off to a good start. Based off what your said your doing ok. I would look for a bulk thing of matched next time your at the store since trying to light candles with the fire steel/flint/rubbing sticks together is a hassle under normal circumstances but a good backup.

Jansport backpacks might not have as many pockets as you want but they are available everywhere, blend in with everyone else and have a lifetime warranty.

If your interested in learning about firearms beware that there are more opinions then fact about firearms. Even I have a few :D if you know someone who shoots having them teach you the basics is cheaper then the classes out there. Generally a .22 rifle is the cheapest way to learn and Appleseed offers a very good free class for law enforcement, under 21 and women for everyone else like $20.

 

And last just start picking up a few cans or a bag of rice every time you go shopping it adds up quick.

Home this helps and again welcome to the forum.

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Barbie, i forgot to mention: download the LDS preparedness manual, it's free and chockfull of good info. The mormons live the preparedness life and have hundreds of years of experience.

by the way, I'm up in No. CA, used to live in the Bay area. Get some good local maps and plot out several escape routes. Forget about the 101 and the 280 in case of an earthquake, think secondary routes. Keep those maps with you!

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Hey, Barbie! Welcome. As one of the guys here said ( I think it was Rick ) it doesn't matter where you start, as long as you start. Jansport will hold your stuff til you can get an Alice pack or other. If you don't have one, you can get a Jansport at just about any thrift store, cheap, cheap. And they do hold a heavy load. That's what I'm going to use while I save for my permanent BOB. Knowledge is both free and priceless, so here's a good place to learn what's out there and what options and issues are on peoples minds. And these guys and gals are awfully nice about helping you forward. Be sure and sign up for the newsletter. Good luck with your preparedness journey.

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Hey Barbie and welcome aboard I agree with the others read all the post and chaeck out the different setup's that are on here for BOB's, EDC's, BOV's....and there is a world of knowlegde on firearms posted here....

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Wow hello everyone! Thanks for the great advice everyone!

I've decided that I would dish out my money for the ALICE pack. I feel like the bag would last me a good while (from what I've read and some of you guys highly recommended it). I got hired for a part time job so i'll be using a small % of the money to slowly add to my collection. So far I've been living with my mom so money isn't getting too bad (except I had to pay the phone and electricity bill haha)! Luckily mum is being really generous and giving me some sort of allowance for lunch (but I'm packing my own lunch so i can... pocket that :P sneaky sneaky teenager I know but I want to buy more stuff!)

 

Again thanks for the warm invite!!!

 

Femvet: Nice to see a female face! Well not really see but yeah you know what I mean! :D Where can I download the LDS preparedness manual?

 

Risk: Thanks for the warm welcome! As you suggested I will be getting the pack! Super excited!

 

Backcountry: Yeah my name usuallly raises a few eye brows haha! Looking forward to the earthquake list! But don't feel obligated to post anytime soon! Just do it when you got the time!

 

MikeE: Wow I did some research on California gun law and most of it boiled down to: It's not as easy to get a gun then other states haha.

 

Autonomous: I literally don't know anyone that would teach me how to shoot! Which is pretty lame! I have a neighbor that is a hunter but I've never really talked to him... I guess I should start being friends with my neighbors or something! I'm sure cake pops would be a great way to break the ice!

 

Survival101: Thanks for the great info!!! Hello to the both of you guys!

 

Ruger92: Yeah I've just started skimming the surface of this forum... So much to read! I'm so glad I landed on this gold mine!

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hey Barbie, I don't know about Calf but you can check with some local shooting ranges and sometimes they give begainner course starting with basic weapons safety and markmanship training and sometime furinish the weapon also....I would asume they would be a chage for that...but you do have that hidden lunch money...lol

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I'm a bit new as well, especially to posting, but welcome to the tribe.

 

There was a post on here I can't seem to find at the moment, but it was about a National Geographic show called Doomsday Preppers and there is a couple on there that lives in an apartment so you might get some space saving tips from them. I live in an apartment so I understand about 'limitations' on neighbors and space. The show is good overall for learning as well, but don't let it overwhelm you, the more seasoned 'preppers' have thought of quite a bit compared to someone who is newer to the community.

 

The shows site is here; http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/doomsday-preppers/

 

You can watch the episode here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaxjfQheNes

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Welcome Barbie.

Ok im a father of 2 grown daughters so I WILL say right off.

GET A KNIFE first..easy to carry,one that is confortable in your hand and easy to open.

I went to Davis H.S.in 1970(yep Im that old) and the College(U of Davis) offered self defence at that time.Yep got my butt kicked by college students(for a little while) but I learned. Please be carefull and be gray about what you do,ask question here and we all will help.

Watch your money and TALK to MOM,she is your first defence and your best support.

Have fun most of all,we do LOL..

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Ruger: Haha it's going to take a lot of lunch money to get gun training!!!! I found a few places and I'm looking forward to signing up!

 

Craz: Thanks for the links! I'll definitely watch those episodes! Nat Geo got EVERYTHING

 

101matt: HI! A knife you say! Sounds like a good start. WHat inch should the blade be? Do you recommend a certain brand or should I just visit the nearest army surplus store?

I've been trying to convince my mom we need to buy like freeze dried foods, extra water ect and I think I'm getting to her... Since we had that tsunami in Japan to worry us all even though that was a while ago!

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B.dragon.

A knife is very personal.

Im 6ft 4inch tall and have a 36inch reach,I dont need a long blade.lol

purchase a decent "Not expensive" basic knife that feels good in your hand.I have large hands and a Machete fits very nice,but i dont carry one.LOL .

The first knife WONT be your last.So shop around and play with them and like a car dont purchase the first one the dealer says too..

After you have handled a few make a desision,will this defend me?can I maintain the edge?Can I keep it on me at ALL times without drawing attention?

Sorry my "DAD" experence is coming out.

Its up to you as to what you have.I cant "tell" you what to purchase .But let us know what you find and post a link .We will help with finding the best price and if it any good.

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101matt: Haha, like my mom says "Parents will always be parents!"

Very cool looking knife! I'll start doing research on knives now! So much to research! and it's fun and addictin g too. Maybe it's just me but when I look through all these survival prep equipment, I can spend hours just comparing prices and looking at reviews and stuff like that! Where do people usually go to buy and handle knifes? REI? Surplus store?

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EQ list,

 

Food...since money is an issue, skip the freeze dried and stock up on what you normally eat, by a little extra each time and rotate through it. i think many seasoned preppers do this quite a bit. one of the most well respected guys on this forum (capt Bart) mentioned he does this with canned chili. also you want something like protein bars that you can keep in your pack or grab for a quick getaway. in a big quake you could be forced out of your house with no access to your stored items and this will come in handy.

Water, water can be had for cheap. just get some containers and start filling from the sink. drop in a little bleach for disinfecting and voila, water storage

Flashlight - any will do, just have one and lots of spare batteries.

knife - you saw what the others posted. i carry a benchmade assisted open folding knife but it was about $100 bucks and not my first knife.

first aid kit - very important. injuries can and will happen. i think you said you were working on this.

rope ladder - if you live on an upper floor then this will come in handy for quake, fire, break in etc. the idea being that you want to have to exits from any room in your home.

Money -- having a stored amount of money, say a hundred bucks in mixed bills, can save you in the event that you cant get to your cash in your home and the atms/banks are down. just dont spend it.

 

Firearms - any local gunshop will be able to direct you to a training course many of which are cheap or free. i recommend going in, asking lots of questions and taking a class. its not hard to get a gun in CA it just takes 2 weeks, a background check, a simple test of common logic and the often frustrating waiting period. find a gun that is reliable and easy to use. i tought my wife with a .38 revolver. they are both simple and reliable and are easy to handle.

 

you can add on to this as you see fit. but these are the basics. start small and grow. good luck

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@riskconnected: Hmm never thought about this! But I just got accepted for a part time job haha, maybe I can do that for a summer job or something! I've been looking at a lot of the gun ranges around the bay area and they all seem pretty cool. When I get the time (school starts next Monday... :( ) I'm going to try and get a hunting licence, find a hunter and have them teach me stuff.

 

@backcountrybill: Thanks for the list! It really help me guide my buying process here. I've been going around everywhere looking at everything!

 

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome and the much appreciated advice! You'll be seeing more of me around!

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yeah as long as you don't have any nasty stuff on your record it's pretty easy to get a gun. The common sense test is only for handguns. The limitations for guns in California in a nut shell are 10 round magazine limit, hand guns sold have to be on the approved list (you know because manufactures who don't pay the fees to get on the list here have stayed in business by selling unsafe guns. /sarcasm) and then there's a bunch of funny laws about the kind of stock you can have on semi auto stuff. Generally if it's for sale in a gun store or sporting goods store it's legal. http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Main_Page is a very good source for any "whats legal here?" questions.

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@autonomous: Thanks for the info, it's nice seeing the gun laws in a nut shell. I was reading the gun laws, while it's not so complicated it's kinda... I don't know hard to read. Sadly I'm not 21 so I can't get myself a handgun... But I'll just start with whatever is out there! :D

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