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My true interest, which I am very very interested in, is Space. Like terraforming mars, that would be the best I could ever hope to achieve. But my mind just doesn't concentrate good enough to play out my thoughts.

 

I have all these good ideas but I don't know how to use them... I would love to work for NASA someday in any biology field they have.

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Default Human, first off I take my hat off to you for doing what you can to contribute money to your families situation. I don't I ever considered giving my parents any money when I was your age. This just shows you that you have a good heart and that will get you a long way in life. Now, I know education and job situation well because I went through a very similar experiance. The only thing I ever wanted to be was a conservation officer (game warden) but I didn't do my research and went into college to obtain a degree in biology. After two years I finally was looking into open positions for that area and found that they would really like it if you had participated in their summer work programs (at least in my state) I was going to start doing that but had a family emergency I had to tend to so I soon forgot about that and kept marching on in college. A month before I graduated from college with a B.S. in Biology I was scared becasue I didn't know what I was going to do, and i was going to have student loans that required payment right off the bat. Luckily, two weeks before graduating I found a position with a company in ther quality control lab. Worked there for two and half years but hated every second of it. Now, I am doing something that doesn't use my degree at all. I am a maintenance director of a building, while it pays much less than what i was making in the lab, I am happier on a daily basis. I used to think I would do anything for a high paying job, but after going through it let me tell you MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING. Choose something that will make you happy. Lately though I have been getting back into shape because I would really like to be a police officer which is the only other thing I ever really considered doing when I was younger. I don't know the extent of your medical issue but if you have your high school diploma than I would suggest police officer. It sounds like you really love the outdoors so one place I would suggest is the Alaska State troopers. I looked into this a while back and they are always looking for people. People don't tend to last long up there because it is so far from the rest of us and they go up there with romantic ideas of Alaska.

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go into the coast guard

if your little boat sinks you can always wade to shore.

 

ALL KIDDING ASIDE........

 

In these days try to get into the nursing field as a lvn or lpn lowest grade or even a phlebotomist just get

your foot in the door working in the heat or AC nice looking coworkers clean environment upward mobility

only limitation is your will to go to school and health benefits

gunsmith ha ha Was one don't bother it takes lots of talent most stuff can't be done in house not to mention go to brownells look at the price of tools think college was expensive I got a full set of metal files 200 bucks and how many sets of punches and reamers stones gauges micrometers books LMAO I have more assembly

books and tech manuals than i can count more money a license need one of those more money most stuff today is drop in so the work your going to get is crap like reassembling a h&r single shot takes three hands and a clamp and you get 60 bucks WOW don't bother you can set around all day and nothing then you sell for a

shop ranger LMAO parks and recreation cleaning toilets cleaning pools mowing grass picking up trash

who else do you think dose it the little elves game warded walking around in the middle of the night in tick infested wood mosquitoes that can stand flat footed and screw a humming bird water duty how many life vest got a signaling device blah blah and get a drunk you got to arrange transport via local authorities

and every once and awhile you got to work the office its like working the desk at a cheap motel military

we are about to bring back umteen thousand back where are they going to work... if there was a place

don't you think they would keep them in get in the medical game before its overflowing with people

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Thanks for the replies and advice,

 

to Tinderwolf,

 

Yeah I have a pretty high cold resistance so that might work out some way some how for me, I might move to Canada or something, its more spaced out and they have strict requirements to get in, which is good and bad. I want to do something with biology but still not sure. I heard of Astrobiology but thats a little weird. I might get a bachelors in biology, and an associates or something in chemistry/nutrition/the environment. Or vice versa. I got a few months to decide before I'm going to start college still. But I appreciate the help and am still deciding. I'm bad at picking a life changing decision like this lol.

 

I do plan to have a job that helps with prepping, but isn't solely based on it.

 

But biology might help me with the zombies.... hahahahahahah jk

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My 18 year old is in a similar (but not nearly as hard a spot) currenlty. Advice I'm pushing is to work a 30-40 hr day job (box store sales associate) so that she builds cash towards tech college tuition and gets a healthy taste of work life without a specialized skill. Prep for her first semester of Tech/Community college getting as many shifts as she can. Take every shift her less dedicated co-workers want off - get to be known as the first person to call if you want to have a shift covered.

 

Get CPR pro certified through a local fire department (Pre req for EMT) - EMT Basic - Intermediate as evening classes. Then decide if paramedic is worth it as a career.

 

From that point she at least has an employable skill (EMT) and can work in just about any community where people live and have a far better wage than box store job to fund her go forward education.

 

And of course her dear father the prepper has another trained medic in the group ;)

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Hey Man, I understand that you are in a difficult situation, especially not being able to join the Military. I feel you all too much on this, I know you are talking about and hearing about "Big Ticket" jobs such as Lawer or Game Warden, but if you truely want a job that will help you in a SHTF scenario or better yet AFTER a SHTF scenario, Look into Construction such as Carpentry. You can get into a good job if and when you can find one NOW, but the benefits of knowing how to construct things such as shelters will be huge.

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Cowboy has a point. The other thing is that with a BS in any science, you are probably NOT going to work as a scientist. The good news, with a science degree, is that you are accepted as an "educated animal" into many areas. With a bio degree, you might look into the various police crime labs. You might also work in the environmental field.

I have learned to break any job down into "the job" and "the work". I've had great work in a lousy job and great jobs but lousy work. Finding a job that is both good work and a good job is tough, but when found is to be prized. If Alaska is in your plans at all, there are plenty of field jobs that a bio major might look at in the cold country. Remember, cities need water quality specialist. They need public health specialist. They need managers for public parks and zoos. Think of your degree as the key to open the door to the various fobs of interest. Don't fall into the trap of thinking you can only work in your field.

I'm a physicist but I've almost never worked as what most folks think physicists do. I've been a test engineer, a test pilot, a design engineer, a computer guru, a data base specialist for Oracle and an Army officer. Only recently, have I actually been doing "rocket science". I did get to do meteor research in the early 90's. Great work but the job was lousy - I had to quit before the stress gave me a heart attack.

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hey man I'm 18 and a full time college student and have a full time job, i've been supporting myself through college, I've had some family troubles of my own, nothing quite like yours but from the little bit of experience I have I can tell you this much, its definitely possible my friend and if things get too hairy, I live in a two bedroom apartment and lookin for a roommate haha, keep your chin up and push through all the crap, you'll come out on top one of these days!

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Young Sir

I will keep you in prayer.

First Medical field..EMT good start to learn basic,CNA work in hospital or Nursing Home..Both requires some training and you will have a way finding out if you like it or not( you will see and hear all the good and bad stuff)..LPN is 1 year,RN is 2 years.

Game warden,2 year degree,it helps to Know the boss in the area.

Carpenter,lets just say after 20 years of selling building supplys that there are tons of reason why NOT to.But you should at least know the basic,summer job on a building site but its a ton of lifting and carrying.

 

In real life your brain is worth more than your back...and from your post you have the common sence to do what you like.Thats the KEY.

Take some test and find out what your great at! A JOB is better when you like it.Just saying,we all have had jobs that came with a "Oh shit I got to go to work"morning.

So its up to you..keep us informed

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I want to be an idiot

 

It seems to be a good stable job as everyone in Washington is one

they make fantastic money great benefits and get raises every year and a 1.5 million dollar

expense account and they are not held responsible for any screw ups they make.

get on TV and travel with an entourage get the best suites and food.

Say completely stupid sh*t on camera and blow it off and say I misspoke.

retire in 2 terms with a golden parachute and full insurance.

 

LMAO

 

HELL YES i WANT TO BE AN IDIOT THEY GET ALL THE GOOD SH*T WE JUST GET CRAPPED ON!

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Default Human,

 

Since you mentioned you have ADHD and as someone who was diagnosed with ADHD in college; I think I can offer some advice to help you out. I know in your original post you said you love science and you are also considering being an engineer, the only down side is you don't like math and Chem. As a person with ADHD I beg you to find an area of study that holds your interest.

 

I started out in college as an Engineering major, and I spent my first year and a half of school fighting tooth and nail to make it. I have managed to learn what it is like to work hard and fail miserably (I think I am a better person for it).

 

I loved every major specific class that I was taking, but as others have mentioned engineering is heavy in math and science. An engineering degree (BS) will require at least 4 semesters of Calculus/differential equations, one or two semesters of Chemistry, and one or two semesters of Calculus based physics. Also depending on your concentration and the field you go into (ex. Civil, Mechanical, Electrical...) you will likely have to work under a licensed engineer for a period of time (usually 4 years) and then take 2 eight hour exams (Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) and Practice of Engineering (PE)) for a professional license. (If you pursue a BS in engineering, you can and should take the FE immediately after graduation)

 

If you want to be an engineer and you hate math, I would recommend an Engineering Technology degree. An engineering technologist basically does the same work as an engineer, but will do more field work. The University that I went to only required Math as high as Calc 2 and algebra based physics 1 and 2. In most states an engineering technologist can also sit for the FE and PE exams, but after a longer period of time working under a professional engineer.

 

I bounced from Engineering to Geology, and something just clicked for me. Even in the higher level and more difficult major specific classes I found myself paying attention and excelling because I liked and enjoyed the classes. The other important thing that held my attention was that a lot of the classes required labs and field trips which gave me the opportunity to learn hands on. If you are going for a BS in Geology, most programs require "field camp" for graduation which is a 6 week course that combines the information that you have learned with the need to record your observations and and draw a field map.

 

I will warn you that if you do pursue a BS degree, for most majors you will need at least Calculus 2, Chemistry and algebra based physics. Most science majors do offer a BA degree which requires less math and outside science classes, but in this day and age, a BA degree can be less marketable if you do work in your field of study.

 

I cant speak for other majors like biology or chemistry, but I can speak about learned survival skills as a geology major and work later as an environmental consultant. Tasks include Reading and creating topographic maps, Identifying, locating, and marking features on maps, Mineral identification, Identifying potential natural hazards, and Identifying and understanding natural features. One more thing, a pointed tip rock hammer is an valuable item, It can be used as a hammer, pick, pry-bar (breaking some locks), and a weapon. :D

 

Most importantly, I found a field that I enjoyed and that I could use the nature of my learning disability (ADHD) to my advantage. I use the inquisitive and distraction prone nature of ADHD to not only do my job, but also maintain situational awareness.

 

Just remember if you understand your limitations, you can turn some of your limitations into strengths.

 

-PRK543

 

P.S. I am worried about having to bug out on foot... I have a tendency to pick up cool looking rocks!

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prk543.Good post..

welcome to the forum ..

 

very good post indeed.

thats to dang funny about the cool looking rocks. i have 2 very bad habits (that i'll share lol) with you.

1, i have a thing for dice. any time somebody goes to vegas i have them to bring me back dice. most of the time they do.

my other, if somebody goes somewhere thats very cool in my opinion, i have them bring me back a rock

from there. i want to know the location of the rock as to where they picked it up. then, its my job to return it back there one day. stupid and silly i know, but its something i like doing and you just reminded me of me when you mentioned the rock thing. lol you pick'em up and i'll put'em back. (some day)

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I'd also like to add that there is some value in higher education even if it isn't specific to on-the-job training. For example, a B.A. in Philosophy sounds like a go-nowhere degree (unless you want to stay in academia), but instead you learn critical thinking, logic, debate, ethics... My own background is Political Science, which sounds pretty useless except that I have a fundamental understanding of social constructs, rule of law, international relations, economics - great for making small talk at fancy parties, but even better for analyzing news, anticipating responses from various parties, making educated guesses (pre-SHTF), and formulating sensible plans for leadership, group dynamics, and allocation of resources (post-crisis, I'd be a heck of a lot of help in getting things stabilized and operating in a cooperative fashion). That said, I don't plan on praying someone else will take mercy on me on the hope that IF we make it through the initial crisis, I can be a good administrator. ;)

 

My point is that your knowledge and life experiences may be useful in ways that are not directly obvious in terms of survival. Likewise, through self-education, hobbies, even sports/fitness, you can become immensely capable and useful *regardless* of your education or your everyday job. The CFO at my last job was highly educated, with a background in finance and accounting, and spent 50+ hours a week at his desk or in meetings... but in his spare time, he was either growing shocking amounts of produce in his organic garden or hiking and camping all over the countryside, both of which could be very useful. My favorite IT/database pal from the same company was a tiny, soft-spoken young woman who happens to have competed in national sharpshooting competitions and quietly admitted to just "having a way" with weaponry.

 

I do think EMT training would be (obviously) useful, but I'm not sure it's a good career idea for someone who intends to bug out if TSHTF. You get trained to be the first responders and your duty and obligation is to stick around and try to help - which, unfortunately, may mean essentially going down with the ship as need overwhelms resources. Same with nursing or other medical fields; it might be one thing for a member of a construction crew or an office drone not to show up at work, but short-staffed or un-staffed hospitals means people who have a reasonable expectation of receiving help will be left to die. Clinic workers may not have quite the same level of obligation to shoulder, but I would be concerned with the ethics of entering into an implied covenant to stay and help if you are simultaneously planning to pull up stakes should things get really bad.

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Dear Human: This from a Mom. You sound like an awesome young 'un. I'm sure your mom is proud of you. I read a lot of good suggestions above. EMT does not sound like the job for you. Chrons is so unpredictable, it would be impossible if you were working trauma or emergency of some kind and you became ill. And stress increases any illness of that type. Sounds like the two don't mix to me. But, EMT is a great job for anyone who wants to and can. We need more good folks in that field.

 

A degree is very important. As my mom said, it doesn't matter what degree you get, just get the piece of paper. Because so many jobs require it. Most colleges even allow you to custom build your own degree. For example, a degree in Environmental Politics would combine Biology and Political Science.

 

I wouldn't recommend customer service, accounting, or similar. There is no soul in those jobs. When you are old, you will have spent your life trying to please others, and not yourself. (Beg pardon to any who disagree) I know of what I speak.

 

Our world is built around services now, not as much built around goods and trade. There is really a shortage of skilled trade workers. And will be more so, if TSHTF. Get that good degree, and then apprentice yourself to a gunsmith, or welder, upholsterer or carpenter, or an other brand of craftsman. You will eventually bring in good money.

 

Then, while you work, learn additional skills, so that in the event of a job loss or even a world-wide catastrophe, you can apply yourself where you want. Your skills will be valued. Perhaps, if you can get access to some land, you can learn some gardening, bee-keeping, or animal husbandry skills. That's what I'd do if I could go back 35 years. Find what makes you happy, and invent your own job. If you keep learning as a life-long process, you can always re-invent yourself as needed.

 

And if you need something now?? I don't know what goods you sell on eBay, but you may have the skills to open a re-sale or consignment shop in your town. There is money to be had there.

 

Best of Luck.

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I haven't read all the posts so if someone else said this I apologize, but have you considered anything in the medical field. Some of my family works at the local hospital. It seems there is a shortage of any level of nurse. The pay,even at this small hospital is really good. It is the law of supply and demand. Right now there is a huge shortage for this type of worker.

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Back when I was 17, and that was an Ice Age ago (I think I may have been around the Sun more times than Capt Bart), I wanted to be Park Ranger. I went to college and eventually got my BS in Zoology. The state of KY hired me as an Air Pollution Controller in Western KY. It was great work but I needed to go on food stamps in order to eat because the pay was so low. I went back to school and got a BS in Electrical Engineering. That has been my profession for many years (along the way I got my MSEE and PhD but they were just "opportunity"degrees and not "necessity" degrees).

 

Several years ago I had the opportunity to teach "outdoor skills" for the state of VA in what was called "Project WILD". Essentailly I took a half dozen inner city hoodlums into the Appalachian Mountains and taught them survival skills as a team building assignment. Through that program I got certified as a "Wildlight Biologist" for the states of VA, NC and KY.

 

My point in all this rambling is that I started out getting educated in what I loved -- Zoology got me outdoors and into the wild but it didn't pay the bills. I then had to find a way of making a living. I chose Engineering because I could make a decent living and have the ability and opportunity to remain active in the area I loved. And, quite honestly, most engineering fields can be quite interesting.

 

It would have been nice to have found a professional field to focus on way back when I was 17 that I loved and it paid the bills. That didn't happen for me and, in my years of experience, I have met very few people that successfully combined the two needs.

 

My recommendation to you: concentrate on what rocks your boat now while you're young enough to make adjustments to your long-term career. Think first about what gets you excited and secondly about what it'll take to retire. I know way too many sad people who became doctors or lawyers because the profession paid good money and and now they wish they had instead pursued their love of carpentry, agriculture or animal husbandry.

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(I think I may have been around the Sun more times than Capt Bart)

 

Capt Rob,

I don't know, it might be close - 63 in May.

 

Good recommendations from Capt Rob. Right now you can live on less income while you learn "what you want to be when you grow up"! The wisest man in the world is the one who gets paid to do what he would pay others to let him do. Those jobs can be found when you're young enough to build on them. At my age, it's a lot tougher. I'm in the position of needing to wait for retirement so I can go do what I want. A couple more years, then I retire from here and go get the job I really want.

 

A BS in physics lets you do a lot but it also has some limitations on it. The same with other fields. A PhD may actually make it harder to get the job you want. Folks don't want to hire you because they think you will jump ship the first time there is a PhD level job available.

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You mean to tell me the secret to happiness is to do what I like for a job! I like talking about urban survival. I could be an urban survivalist when I grow up. :P

 

But i agree with the jest of it. working till 55 to retire and hating every minute of it is no way to live.

 

Yeah and it doesn't work either! I was set to retire at 55 and then the market crashed! I was certainly glad I had not yet retired because I lost BIG!

 

Don't know about being an urban survivalist when you grow up but you might be a consultant for corporations teaching their overseas employees (could never happen here of course:rolleyes:) how to survive in large cities if there is social upheaval.

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