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There is a saying among hams that goes,"I'm 'radio active' from DC to light" meaning that I have radios to cover every ham frequency from pure DC all the way to near light frequencies. Well, I'm not quite active DC to light but I have operated everything from really old ham gear up to Ku (14.5 GHz) band frequencies. There are others of us out here who are as good or better than I am with commo stuff, especially for TSHTF usage. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here. If one of us doesn't know, we'll find out for you.

 

We live in an age where we expect to be in constant contact with everyone, all the time. I pick up my phone and talked to my friends in the UK or my children where ever they are at any time. With cell technology (remember the Star Trek communicators - no the original Star Trek for you young guys) I don't even have to know what state my pilot son is in; I just dial his number. If I was quite such a Luddite I could even say "call son" and it would do it for me - I prefer to memorize numbers because I've had cell phones fail.

 

This expectation of instant access to communications and information may well be one of the biggest emotional hits post TSHTF. One of the comments you often hear from disaster areas is that the cell phones aren't working. Ignorance in place of certainty is devastating to morale. Use this topic to talk about how you plan to talk to those important to you, near or far and use this thread for specific questions you may have.

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Modo,

While I'm not familiar with the radio, it appears to be a basic ham radio, 2 meter and 440 Mhz FM hand held. It appears to allow you to set transmit and receive frequencies separately so you should be able to operate simplex (radio to radio) or duplex (using the ham repeaters). As you note, you need a ham license to legally use this. The beginning license is now the Technician license. http://www.arrl.org/licensing-preparation-exams or a local ham club should be able to help you get that license. There is no longer a code requirement so it is only a multi-choice test. My wife got the study guide on a Monday and passed the test on the following Saturday. The Study guide is the actual questions and the correct answer.

The advantage to getting the license is that you get to practice your skills before you need them. In addition, if it is TSHTF and not TEOTWAWKI you won't have to worry about legalities.

I have found my 2 meter radios very useful. I've helped folks who had car trouble, during a convoy having the radio was great car to car. My wife and I had clear frequencies when cell and CB were both swamped. Currently, the cell system is quicker if you know who you want to talk to but if you don't know or if the cell system is down these radios are great. When I travel I take my hand held and a "repeater guide" (available on line or from ARRL in book format) and I can look for help, chats, directions etc. in a totally unfamiliar town. I've helped with communications for marathons, boat races, airshows, and a slew of other special events.

The specs look decent enough and you have a radio that exceeds the ham bands which might be useful. You really need to look at making time for the license so that you can legally use the system. I prefer the ham bands to other systems because of flexibility and now the license is much easier to get since the actual Q&A are available for study.

I hope this helps and I'll be glad to help you any way I can. Good luck.

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For financial reasons, my wife and I gave up our cell phones. The possibility that the cell phone system would be down in even local emergencies made us buy two ways in case we are separated when SHTF. The range is supposedly 25 miles but our experience is more like 4 miles unless we are both standing on a mountain top. They are GMRS/FRS radios with 22 channels and I set up both to operate on that CTCSS thing so we could talk even if other people are using our channel. That has happened a few times and we were surprised how well it works. But I'm wondering what things would be like in an emergency when hundreds or even thousands of people were flapping their lips at one another while we are trying to get in tuch. We have an agreed upon bug out place, but I anticipate lots of reasosn why I would like to hear her voice, and versa vice, if SHTF and we are not together.

 

Anyone know what two way traffic is like in an emergency? Even with the CTCSS mode enabled?

 

Thanks for the forum Capt Bart!

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I would like to know this as well. I have a pair of these radios that my wife and I use while kayaking. We dont have them set up for the CTCSS, we have never heard another soul on channel 1 (default channel when you turn it on). Not even sure what the CTCSS is, but need to look into it. I think ours are the 36 mile versions.

 

I am also very interested in what other methods are available. Besides HAM and CB. I am not interested in the formalities of a HAM licence and I know that I would never talk the wife into it. With all of my other "hobbies", I dont have room for HAM gear anyway and dont want CB's in the cars. I would like to know any other portable gear.

 

I have a BOL that I have invited my best friend (20+ years)and his wife to join us. 4 have better odds than 2. There is plenty of land with no structures yet, but we will likely build seperate domiciles. I know that there are some old US military wired handsets that could act as a self powered landline across several hundred yards. I dont recall the name for them, but I thought I might get a set if such a need arrised.

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CTCSS stands for "continuous tone coded squelch system". Radios equipped w/CTCSS transmit a sub-audible continuous tone along with the normal voice modulation. You can't hear the tone, but a receiver that also has the CTCSS is looking for it. In fact, it won't pass any audio to the speaker without seeing it. Hence, someone may be transmitting on the same frequency as you, but you won't hear them unless they are using the same code.

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Is there a limit to the amount of people that can use the same frequency(even with CTCSS) and it not interfere with one another? I imagine it'll get to a point to where even though we can't hear anyone else, their transmissions will cause interruptions in ours?

 

Also, does using CTCSS take up more battery power? I'm thinking that may be something to think and plan accordingly when the SHTF.

 

I have never heard about this before, but I am interested, which is why I made an account just to ask these two questions. :)

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JoeBub,

Yes, interference can be an issue. If the signals sharing your frequency are weak, no problem. If they are strong, they may completely block yours. Do some checking on the freqs you might want to use (with your CTCSS off) and see if there is a lot of traffic. Try to locate a channel that seems quiet all the time. No guarantee of course, if things start happening and everybody and his brother decides to get on the air.

As far as the battery usage goes, there should be no difference.

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i got to use the TA-1 and the TA-312 in the Marines as recently as 2003. The 312 uses a battery, The TA-1 does not. Simply depress the PTT button, and it makes the other end ring, and powers the phone. There is another version I got to use that had a little thing you turned to generate power, and all three worked very well. I have contemplated doing the same thing when my wife and I finally get a home. I figured we could use them to connect the garage and the house at first, and they are relatively light, and easy to carry (though the cable can be a stone cold #$$%). http://www.ebay.com/itm/USMC-MILITARY-FIELD-PHONE-RADIO-TA-1-PT-TELEPHONE-/220766313957?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3366b29de5 this is a link to one on ebay. You can find just about anything there. Just as an aside, does anyone know if there is a way to set a CB up as a man packable unit? Could be good for just about anything where you would need to leave a base camp or vehicle to go do something, and still want a way to talk to your group (of course, this is if cell phones are out, or not desirable). Could be handy even without the world dumping into the chasm of despair.

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If you're locked in to CB, and want to go portable, just buy a handheld. Same output power, but fits in the hand and has internal batteries. With a separate speaker mike or headset, a decent antenna, and a way to fit it into or on your ruck, you're in business. Midland and Cobra both make reasonably priced handheld CB's.

 

If you're really ambititous, you could build a box with a mobile CB, SLA battery, and antenna system to fit your pack. Fun project. Might be kinda heavy, though.

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Capt Bart and Modo,

 

Several of the hams in our local club have bought and are using the Wouxon radios. There was a good review in the magazine of the American Radio Relay League. The radios work pretty well, but the programming can be dicey, even with the software. That being said, they are a functional, handy, and very reasonably priced little radio. We're pondering a purchase of 5-6 of them to use as "loaners" for our ham students to get started right after they pass their tech test. And DO get that license. The effort is minimal, and the payout huge. I figure if I can pass the exams, they're accessible to about 95% of the human race. We have tested 9 year olds for General Class, and they have passed handily.

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Is there a limit to the amount of people that can use the same frequency(even with CTCSS) and it not interfere with one another? I imagine it'll get to a point to where even though we can't hear anyone else, their transmissions will cause interruptions in ours?

 

Also, does using CTCSS take up more battery power? I'm thinking that may be something to think and plan accordingly when the SHTF.

 

I have never heard about this before, but I am interested, which is why I made an account just to ask these two questions. :)

Short answer is yes and yes. If your CTCSS opens the squelch ANY other transmission on that frequency will come through. Think of it as a door - once it is opened, anyone can come in. It avoids you being annoyed by every other transmission but if there is someone louder than you on that frequency, once the door is opened, you may not be able to hear your partner.

Technically, it does use more power. You are generating a continuous tone that is transmitted with your signal. Your receiver is always on and receiving, it is only the speaker that is off if you are not getting the tone. So while it is a tad more power draw, the volume level of your speaker probably has more effect on battery life.

 

I'll take this moment to throw another pitch for ham radio. My wife and I are both hams. Now that there is no code requirement and the tests are all multiple guess and the exact questions are available for study, it is a lot easier to get a Technician license. Once you have that there are other options. A ham 2 meter handheld has, or can have, more power than the GMRS and has the advantage of using repeaters if available, also has the CTCSS in it and has effectively 3,000 channels. It also lets you use the 10 meter ham band which is much longer range. I've worked Australia and England and France on ham radio (10 meter band) on 5 watts of power with conditions are right so you can get more than a few miles.

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Hi Capt Bart,

I need some quick advice. I've been asked to obtain info from a SHTF group on how to set up a radio net. The more I delve into the subject the more confusing it becomes. Everybody talks in a language that is completely foreign. I'm no tech geek. All I need to know is where to start. Can you help? Please contact me at enigma1@rogers.com

Thanks in advance.

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There is a saying among hams that goes,"I'm 'radio active' from DC to light" meaning that I have radios to cover every ham frequency from pure DC all the way to near light frequencies. Well, I'm not quite active DC to light but I have operated everything from really old ham gear up to Ku (14.5 GHz) band frequencies. There are others of us out here who are as good or better than I am with commo stuff, especially for TSHTF usage. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here. If one of us doesn't know, we'll find out for you.

 

We live in an age where we expect to be in constant contact with everyone, all the time. I pick up my phone and talked to my friends in the UK or my children where ever they are at any time. With cell technology (remember the Star Trek communicators - no the original Star Trek for you young guys) I don't even have to know what state my pilot son is in; I just dial his number. If I was quite such a Luddite I could even say "call son" and it would do it for me - I prefer to memorize numbers because I've had cell phones fail.

 

This expectation of instant access to communications and information may well be one of the biggest emotional hits post TSHTF. One of the comments you often hear from disaster areas is that the cell phones aren't working. Ignorance in place of certainty is devastating to morale. Use this topic to talk about how you plan to talk to those important to you, near or far and use this thread for specific questions you may have.

This is a big concern of mine,being able to communicate. Do you think you would be able to use phone lines with older type rotory phones? Without communication it's hard to organize. I'm talking in the mts. maybe a 30 mile radius small towns, but we need to keep in touch with each other. Any suggestions much appreciated.Capt. Bart you can email me @ tommynette@yahoo.com Again any suggestions would be appreciated Edited by Old man Tucker

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Tucker and group,

Any communications path that is dependent on centralized hardware (land line telephone, cell phone, sat phone, internet, Skype, etc.) is subject to control and denial. The plans are already in place to control all phone access on command of the president. GMRS/FRS has a real range limitation based on the frequency. They are UHF and are strictly line of sight. Ham radio VHF stuff has longer ranges and repeaters extend that range further. CB and HF ham radio has much longer range. Interestingly enough, the long range stuff works off of "skip". The signal bounces off the ionosphere and comes back to earth hundreds to thousands of miles away. I have talked to a station in France and when we were through, a friend a dozen miles away talked to him. I could hear France but not my friend. The skip had "gone long" and there was no ground wave to speak of. Best reliable, mid range (10 to 30 mile) is going to be 10 or 6 meter ham band and CB. GMRS advertizes 35 miles; in perfect conditions maybe but I've never seen it. GMRS is relatively cheap and reliable close in; I just don't have any experience with it in the tall and uncut.

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Uniden has a FRS/GMRS unit that has true voice scrambling. I think it's GMR1448. Supposedly no one can eavesdrop on your conversations. I'm going to try a pair.

 

when/if you buy it. Please post a review on here, I'd be interested to hear how well this "voice scrambling" works.

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FWIW, the Puxing 777 Plus (MURS VHF) also has voice inversion.

 

The voice inversion makes the message completely unintelligible on an open receiver.

 

However, the voice inversion method uses a standard algorithm. So, any radio equippped with voice inversion will decrypt with no problem, and I have read that a Ham radio with SSB can do the same thing.

 

It will eliminate the casual listener as most scanners do not have voice inversion monitoring. However, there are also external devices that can be added to do the re-inversion.

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