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Legalizing prostitution is BAD here is why

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Legalizing prostitution is BAD here is why.

Democratic senators in New York, contend, arguing the state should be the nation's first to fully decriminalize paying for sex.

If something is legal it is marginalized a non event so therefore police will not interfere or investigate, that will allow for Human trafficking to continue without fear of. Can anyone just look at a person and see that they are being coursed, leveraged or threatened to work as a prostitute, no, no one can.

Gangs control prostitutes by threat of beatings and fear of death of themselves or family members that work with the gangs or by them having a drug addiction. if as a nation we elevate sex workers as a honorable jobs, why would your son or daughter want to finish school or go to college when they can if they have the attributes and without education make easy money ? and that is how it will be sold to young people as a way to make fast money and have amorous fans give gifts and that they can work their own schedule, no punching a clock.

If everyone decides to become a sex worker it is no longer exotic or special, like any job, if the field becomes flooded the wages fall like a rock and  positions become impossible to find due to competition.  Cheap drugs like crack meth and whatever is coming lowers the persons self worth because they NEED their drug of choice more than life itself.

Perversion and erotica is already so bizarre that the pressure for sex workers to go to more and more extremes and offer more time or fantastic abuses to feed the appetite of depraved individuals. I read an article about police in countries were working together to identify  foreign sex tours that specialized in virgin children male or female of small preschool children. This is disgusting and horribly destructive to the mentality of a child IMO it is demonic and only sociopaths would accept or do that.

I recall when I was young about "snuff films" a pornographic film where the person was killed in the act ( I am trying to not be too graphic ) but if anyone reading this does not think that there are people that are so disheartened with life they would sell their virginity or d things so disgusting up to allow themselves to be killed for money for their family and not have to do the deed themselves. We have that already to a degree, it's called suicide by cop.

At what point will people become so desensitized that they are like zombies -- like San Francisco  where the sight of homeless crapping on the street urinating in public and used needles all over the place and you know that they loaded with diseases ? Chicago has murders every day there are times when the death toll was more than during our wars in the middle east !

It is my opinion that we are in free fall morally and psychologically it is happening in France Sweden and others where women and girls are being rapped in public and if they complain they are arrested not the rapist OMG this is insane. 

I remember in the early 1980s where women would not take their children to the parks in San Francisco because they did not want to expose their children of men having sex in the bathrooms and bushes it was in the paper. and on TV news.

I blame the church and subhuman individuals that are aware of these issues and would rather walk around in self indulgent bubble. I was amazed that there were people today in California that not only still thought Obummer was still president but if they did know were spewing filthy language the fact he was some were dressed like they were going to Comiccon and in the middle of a weekday ( in my day grown people were considered bums if not at work during the day) if they were working they must have sold out of balloons because they looked like clowns and dressed like fairies and queens with the whole regalia including crowns and tiaras.

I am guilty of thinking that there was a way to pull ourselves out of this dilemma, sorry I am wrong I can see where we are on a train on a down hill grade no brakes and the only end is no jumping off jagged rock on one side and a cliff on the other and a  pile up at the bottom and no survivors.

I am sad to say there is a town south of here that was so bigoted that the feds had to protect a family of color and the fed were pushing that the town were to accept this and anyone that created a problem were going to be arrested and charged with federal crimes. I can see where the law will be used to force everyone to accept all of this by law and that includes pedophilia prostitution and open drug use -- it will never happen here, guess again it is happening right in front of our face IMO.

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I can't say i agree with you on this topic other than the fact I don't think that prostitution isn't a profession that should be glorified as a great choice for a fulfilling life.  I wouldn't want my kids to go that route to be sure, I'm just not for locking people in a cage for a consensual transaction.  I wanted to go over your points and provide a counter to each so that we can discuss further.

 "If something is legal it is marginalized a non event so therefore police will not interfere or investigate, that will allow for Human trafficking to continue without fear of."

I would argue that legal prostitution would have more oversight not less.  A legal business is subject to employment regulations for that industry.  It's hard to think that a legal prostitution industry wouldn't include checks for that.  Also the customers could report a business if they thought there was something going on and have the police check.  Today a "customer" is also breaking the law so the incentive to report potential trafficking is not there.  People who practice human trafficking would likely stay in the illegal non-licensed world to avoid the additional scrutiny a legitimate business would get.  The difference is though, they would have competition.  

"Why would your son or daughter want to finish school or go to college when they can if they have the attributes and without education make easy money ?"

There is a difference between something legal and respectable.  Today, it's legal to be a porn star or a stripper but neither profession is seen as respectable by society.  We don't have an epidemic of kids flocking to that profession, so I'm not sure why it would be different with legal prostitution.  

"If everyone decides to become a sex worker it is no longer exotic or special, like any job, if the field becomes flooded the wages fall like a rock and  positions become impossible to find due to competition.  Cheap drugs like crack meth and whatever is coming lowers the persons self worth because they NEED their drug of choice more than life itself."

There are really two points here.  As mentioned above, there is no proof that a new flood of prostitutes would come into the market given that the profession is isn't considered a respectable one regardless of it's legality.  Also like any market you are going to see a variety of prices for a variety of reasons.  Again if we use strip clubs as  an example, the rates of establishments vary drastically.  Regarding the drug example, I'm with you that a profession like this might/likely lower self worth, but i don't think that the comparison to highly addictive narcotics is a good one.  

"Perversion and erotica is already so bizarre that the pressure for sex workers to go to more and more extremes and offer more time or fantastic abuses to feed the appetite of depraved individuals. I read an article about police in countries were working together to identify  foreign sex tours that specialized in virgin children male or female of small preschool children."

Fetishes are one thing abuse of an individual is another.  You can make prostitution legal without allowing assault or child sex trafficking.  Again I'm not particularly interested in going down a rabbit hole of people's weird desires.  But what I'm talking about is a voluntary exchange between two people of consenting age.   Assaulting someone, or acts with a child would not come close to qualifying under that definition.  

"I recall when I was young about "snuff films" a pornographic film where the person was killed in the act ..."

Murder would still be illegal.  Even assisted suicide is illegal in pretty much all of the states, and in the ones it isn't, a snuff film wouldn't fit the criteria.  This will remain illegal whether or not prostitution is made legal. 

"At what point will people become so desensitized that they are like zombies -- like San Francisco  where the sight of homeless crapping on the street urinating in public and used needles all over the place and you know that they loaded with diseases ? Chicago has murders every day there are times when the death toll was more than during our wars in the middle east !"

Prostitution has been a part of this country for it's entire history, and was much more in the open during periods such as the old west that has none of the cultural decay you are describing about our modern life.  I totally agree with you about the moral decay of society mind you, i just don't think prostitution is even a small portion of the cause.  I see it very similar to the left's approach of wanting to ban guns to stop school shootings.  Well we have had schools and guns in great numbers as long as there has been an America, so why did this only start 30 years ago... Just like you can't convince me guns are the problems, I don't see a great connection to prostitution in this case. 

The rest of your post speaks to the overall sad state of our society, which I totally agree with.  But the problem with society is the modern culture, and that is something that isn't easy to legislate.  

Also the counter argument to the benefits of legalization are this.  The current human traffickers would lose not gain power.  If there were legitimate places to conduct prostitution I think a majority of customers would go that route.  Why?  Because when you are dealing with any black market, who as you mentioned are often run by bad folks, you increase the danger on both sides.  The more people use the legal route the less demand there is for human trafficking because they have lost so much market share.  Will the traffickers still offer the most awful and extreme examples you cited?  Yes they will, just as they are doing today.  The reason, the actions involved in those awful extremes are not legal.  

Look at prohibition, the banning of alcohol created a market where organized crime could rich off of and thrive.  This increased violence in society and increased the danger to the consumer.  Once it was legalized, organized crime lost a huge revenue stream and as a result a whole lot of power.  No reason to think that wouldn't also happen in this case.  

 

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