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Wife of man killed by Arizona cop as he was on knees talks

This is why people do not trust authority, they complicate things and this is a situation where training went wrong and was taken too literally IMO. I realize the call was that someone was pointing a gun out a window but I cannot see where this guy could make it to a gun first since the officer had his muzzle on him.  The mad did make mistakes but nothing he needed to be shot for and surely not 3 times, camera footage is never as good as the observers but at all times I could see both hands.

As any graph will show authorities are just as liable to be criminals as that of the general public so if law breakers are 20% then the members will have similar numbers among their numbers.  People with a good job will lie to cover their mistakes just as often the morm is 2 to 3 out of 10.  I think if a person tells the truth the severity of any punishment shoud be as low as possible or dismissal

 

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Justice..........there is none.....

Some officers, feel their above the law, ....

The world that we live in, what’s good is bad & what’s bad is good..

Times, their a changing! Indeed.....

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Good officers are worth their weight in gold, bad officers --well they need to feel the maximum penalty.  Mistakes can be made made and at long as not felonious or malicious a day or two to think about it is all that necessary.  police have to deal with serious incidents and to a point all grace should be allowed as much as legal and possible., but incidents like this need to have federal prison time 

 

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That is where a community group of peers like ex military, police, security and victims  should set an advisory board to give their opinion as to how to move forward on citizen complaints.  I do as the officers asks and will use the courts or supervisors to deal with any impropriety after the fact arguing at the point of contact is never going to work as it is escalation and a waste of time. Only a judge and or jury can fix most problems.  trouble is hat the judicial system covers it's own for liability reasons so true justice may not be on the menu 

I personally want to automatically and fully trust officers and they themselves need a more strenuous form of whistle blowers rules and allow them to go to a higher agency ASAP if the problem is severe or immediate, the agency need to take accusations seriously so all of them know a high standard is expected of all who carry a badge and if your making others look bad they won't tolerate it. I want a solid blue line not a sketchy one as it helps us all   The officers have lost a lot of authority because of bad officers and not knowing the law as they should  or thinking it does not  apply to them because of their long service  position or just having a badge they can get away with skirting the meaning or bending of the law.

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As someone who in past careers, (was one), I can attest to what I feel is THE problem. So called affirmative action hiring, where specific demographic quotas were used to measure law enforcement recruiting, as opposed to documentable behavior, arrests, convictions, etc. 

The latter IS a far more reliable tool, for measuring performance and ethics, than anything else. However, as usual, the political pimps, have made political correctness the new State Religion, and you WILL obey those edicts or else. Hiring used to be “blind”, as to race, gender, etc. Not anymore. While those social demographic identifiers may make certain political noise-makers “feel good” about themselves, it doesn’t work in the actual community. People need to, and we must hold our public safety personnel to a higher performance standard than normal society values. Solely because of the power we bestow upon them.

Ergo, if there is a documentable performance lapse, or, an abuse of power, we must rid those agencies of those who abuse that power and that ethical standard immediately. 

I would use the Clinton-Lewinsky Events, as a prime example of what has happened, and the reasons WHY, our current political cesspool is as rancid as th it is. We must hold all of our public employees, whether voted in or hired, to a higher more intense standard so that the Lois Lerner’s and others are NEVER allowed to ascend as high as they have to infect the bureaucracy with the systemic infection it now has. 

We may well as a Constitutional Republic, not recover from this fatal infection we now see unfolding all over the Republic, on a local, state and national level.

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8 hours ago, TPSnodgrass said:

We may well as a Constitutional Republic, not recover from this fatal infection we now see unfolding all over the Republic, on a local, state and national level.

I think you may be right we have gone to far over the slippery slope and the bureaucrats are infected with this PC crap.  a few people I know got to talking and somehow ended up about the other gender/ s having trouble in certain areas like fire persons  unable to lift and carry their counterparts I do recall some issues in regard to firearms as in the ability to fire full size with full house loads.  One story was a other gender fired a 10MM at night got so startled droped the weapon and said it exploded, come to find out it was in perfect condition the difference was firing duty ammo and it was night.

I dare say some over compensate, I was watching a cop show where this real bad dude about 350 muscle bound pounds was being taken down it took all of 3 officers and once he was down the other gendered officer bailed on top and grabbed a hunk of hair and talking trash attempting to look bad to the camera. Honestly it would have taken 2 to take him down and maybe one could have been of the other gender but I think it would have been less than simple and more emergency room time after for everyone concerned.

personally I have had to deal with some other gender attempts to do specific jobs that failed and I was accused of not helping ? I will not do 1 1/2 a job 1 of mine and half of the others I trained them exactly as I would anyone explained finesse and balance and timing because of a limited experience of true physical labor this person could not perform at a level equal to their counterparts and as this training was OJT  and in the best of times anyone can be injured or killed and they were not improving but were trying to gut it out and use strength they did not have instead of finesse as I had instructed were getting wore out and still had 8 hours left on a 12 hour shift of the same work so I took a walk I found out later that 2 others tried to "explain it" and failed this person did not show up the next day I doubt the could have gotten up they wanted the wages but could not do the work.  I have encountered this enough times I dare say I would not tolerate it if they could not hold up their end of the work  I have had the same troubles in other jobs and gender is not the only factor many think they can do the job but when the guacamole hits the fan mentally physically or emotionally they crater and it is always at a bad moment and your left on your own.

I love these TV survival shows and movies that try to gender blend that one is a good as the other and neither s true it takes a certain type gender is not really a base line I know many of the other gender that can wrangle horses and do most all the work on a ranch or farm including butchering hunting and operating equipment and learned from experience and lived it,  so it is hard to impossible for a person totally unfamiliar with that lifestyle. Violence well that is another factor and gender has little to do with ones ability to be violent in response to violence and after to live with it or place it in it's context, otherwise you have a person with PTSD or you get a person that revels in it either end of the spectrum is not healthy IMO.

I detest the politically correct supervisors that push the agenda and place people in a bad situation all to curry favor with top brass and the public that has no idea of how it screws up the training and physical requirement standards in most cases it lowers them giving both genders a false sense of accomplishment and when disaster strikes it a bad time to find your team is not up to the highest levels of training. As it is now there are enough people to fill gaps at present levels but If and When TSHTF the weakest link in common sense training intelligence mental toughness and the most important endurance both mental and physical.

People may think I am being sexist but reality is gender strength and endurance needed for some jobs like smoke jumpers firefighters certain police work require brains, brawn and endurance, it is not that the other gender cannot it is many times they have no interest or cannot overcome the physical agility combined with strength and lowering standards endangers everyone many men cannot pass tests so it is not strictly one sided  There are a few other barriers but that is where the few can and the masses will never be able to IMHO.

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As I got older, I realized that I had “bounced checks”, on my body from having “fun”, chasing knuckle heads over fences, hill and dale. After awhile, my body told my brain, DUDE! It’s time to collect what is owed.

Unfortunately, the “reality shows” are ALL complete crap and do a major disservice to the law enforcement profession. They never show the hours upon hours of sheer boredom and dealing with societal trash’s domestic disputes, drug deals gone bad, etc;  then the few milliseconds of sheer terror one experiences. 

The pounds of trivial paperwork that MUST be political correct for the  politician pimps, and then, having lazy ADA’s not wanting to try any case that “might” lower their conviction or clearance rate. It’s no wonder that now, it’s not the job it used to be, nor will it ever be “good” again. Far too many idiots with cameras, political whores wanting to be on cameras for their own selfish interests, and the useless hordes of Entitlement Brigades wanting to record their latest McDonald’sMcnuggetBrawl with their same demographic peers, or the latest cat fight over complete crap from WalMart.

Yeah, it’s now just adult and juvenile daycare, changing society’s public Title 8 subsidized housing diapers, and failed Socialist/Marxist/Progressive social policies, and the continued subsidy of votes for political power. Anyone SEE a “revolution” on the horizon coming? Sooner than later, the taxpayers are going to revolt, and that will be a huge mess that will never be able to be contained.

So, while we are still able to, have a Merry Christmas, and be kind and wise.

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There is a series I keep track of from David Paulides  missing 411

Here his link   David Paulides Missing 411

David has written many books and a recent movie in which he investigates 1,600 missing persons of a  specific type.  I have followed him for some years now and finally have come to a conclusion that the powers that be could give a rats azz about any of us PERIOD.

In all his investigations many in national parks they do not record or keep a list of missing persons in the rare occasion when a body is found the coroners report is sketchy and reson for death is drowning or weather related with NO proof only an assumption.  Worse most of these missing are children and the family is left with no real answers. I realize David is making money from his books and speaking tours BUT let us face it travel lodging and food is not cheap rental vehicles travel to interview and investigate is expensive. and the bureaucrats that are in power in the national park system have defiantly rebuffed his attempts and getting information trough FOIA or freedom of information act   and this is disgusting as people want answers to why or how their loved one died or went missing.  One of the most prolific parks where people go missing is Yellowstone but his has a map of concentrations of mysterious disappearances and demographics.

I ask everyone to go to this site and sign the petition to   MAKE THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR ACCOUNTABLE FOR PERSONS MISSING IN OUR NATIONAL PARKS & FORESTS.  here is the link

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR ACCOUNTABLE FOR PERSONS MISSING IN OUR NATIONAL PARKS

This is happening world wide people are disappearing under strange or mysterious circumstances dogs can't track it happens in seconds most are never found or any sign ones that are found are found in fantastic distances in completely insane situations and places.

This has been happening for hundreds of years here and there but now it is so often it can not be tracked by David Paulides and I think he has only scratched the surface a new type of snatching is happening where bodies are found in water but no reason why they die and men are are floating face up   the time of the disappearance and the time in the water is impossible to reconcile by days so where was the person between the time they go missing and go into the water.

Medical examiners park police and other officials are sweeping this under the carpet rubber stamping and discouraging people from investigating or even asking questions.

these events are so strange as to conjure up all kinds of theories because NOTHING else makes sense and after you have eliminated the impossible what remains must be the truth ?   it is mostly men but age and gender seem to have little difference.  People found alive have no recollection or memory children tell weird stories their clothes are on backward or gone all have shoes missing one man was last in line coming from a blind canyon on a stop on a raft trip --- he had nowhere to go straight up or back and was right behind the group and gone.

One thing that caught me was if there is part of the name is devil avoid the place or anything else associated in that name 1st nation or Indians of most all tribe history tell of places to never go and weird happenings . I have a firm belief that because of demonic works as in witchcraft using spiritual tools incantations, séances and all the other has and is opening up more evil into this world. I think that through history this has ebbed and flowed in my youth the demonic was rare and in places far away or pin point today it is common people take pride and willingly express their following demonic forces and contrive to summon them into this plane of existence.  There is never a Christian holiday that does not have a reverse pagan ritual in their parlance this is to counter God and his people they worship what all their kind does EVIL just as Aleister Crowley,  Anton LeVey and others.

I am not talking parlor tricks but real evil as in cannibalism, blood drinking, human sacrifice and animals to subordinate or garner the power * energy of demons or spirits to use in this world.   These people are drunk on power and control but, a wise man never follows a jaguar into his lair and that is what these fools unknowingly are doing, thinking they are in control while the power is using them as a demon cannot operate in the physical without a host or enabler, and in that they are a hollow vessel not knowing they are being use to transport and give power in this dimension  to demonic forces, the trade is for power to be able to see the future effect it control people and their will.  Charles Manson I think may have been possessed by one of these spirits  others are smooth and appear normal.  Many murderers have admitted to making pacts or practicing some occult / pagan rights, now they are doing life like Richard Ramirez and the son of sam was thought to be a group but they got one and a conviction.

I think this is one piece of a larger puzzle even if not a child should never go missing and not found and an answer to why for the family IMHO.

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