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Church shootings at Southerland Springs

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Well We have now see Fox show it's anti gun underbelly 2 reporters are now monologuing their most inner thoughts on how to "fix" mass shootings, well for the last 60 years people like these have remained silent on the removal of God from our schools.  

There is NO good without God,  not only have they remained silent and had no opinion fearing reprisals from their own media but the left. When the pledge of allegiance was opted out or removed you could hear crickets. When the left started without asking to teach the mid east holy book NOTHING negative. When our ex-president  stated that The future must not belong to those that slander the prophet of islam did we yell for him to be impeached ? it is alright for him to slander 240 million supposed people of this country who lip service that they are Christians most ARE NOT. So when your people are murdered just grab your ankles I can already see that this is being set up to meld it into what the circumstances will allow.

The La Vegas shootings the smoke has not even cleared and still we know at least we are being lied to, now 2 fox reporters are spouting anti gun restrictive measures for ammunition blah blah blah they should be fired and sent to ABC, CBS, ABC CNN and public television.

First everyone needs to go armed no restrictions except illegal actions that are already illegal like assault and murder. the gloves are off I have restricted my posts becuase I did not want to give anti American radicals terrorists or nut jobs ideas ut in less that 30 minutes these morons gave away the farm running their mouth about a subjects that they are completely ignorant of like security and defense / self defense.  It sickens me that there are people that are so ignorant they refuse to learn that if there are no guns there are vehicles chemicals fuels and much worse that can be bought to bare as long as they are using guns some people may survive these horrible attacks, but when morons are allowed to limit our access it limits the attackers as well and attackers will only move to another medium to inflict their horror.  If and that is IF people are allowed to without restriction be able to carry ANY weapon they deem fit as long as it is concealed from a sword cane to a black jack knife of any length that can be hidden pistol, mace or pepper spray Tazers pepper spray guns etc etc etc. people won't think that everyone is a unarmed piece of meat.

You defeat weapons with weapons that is why police do not carry a water pistol or like England a stick they still have murders poisonings knife attacks bludgeoning vehicle attacks and pushing people off train platforms they still have arson suicides and murder suicides.  Where were you when the London policeman was attacked by a radical mooslim that cut his head clean OFF !  recent New York truck attack  your not going to stop a person in a truck with a umbrella.  Stripping us of the ability to defend leaves this as a police state and anyone with a brain knows you cannot sue police for not being able to rescue or save you that is YOUR responsibility as per Federal law it has been to court decided and it is over you cannot sue any agency or entity of government that fails to protect and serve PERIOD.

God created mankind Sam colt made them equal a 90 pound woman young girls even a child has defended themselves in their home against intruders burglars rapists and drug addled psychopaths a pistol extends your ability from your reach to as far as you can shoot straight.

But just having a gun does not make you safe or able to defend yourself   FREAKIN DUH ! the aggressor alway has the upper hand, as a defender you cannot shoot first until you see a weapon you cannot fire if a person is not in proximity or fleeing unless,  certainly will be investigated by people that want to find you guilty of some legal infraction.

I have known people when I was a kid that were mentally challenged who hunted fished and camped never a problem and then there is the no fly list and we see how well they use that laws only restrict or remove your right before the fact and generally speaking the police most of the time only investigate after the person is already dead and they surly cannot defend you from gangs that want to kill you for being a witness or an  ex spouse turned nutball. Jodi Arias murdered her lover in the shower albeit with a gun she could have just as well waited till his back was turned and beat his head in with a hammer.

Commiefornia is making lead illegal all bullets will have to be lead free and I am just as certain they plan on restricting amounts of ammo and supplies !!! Why I know people that are skeet fanatics bullseye shooters and practice a couple hundred rounds a day what next a "SPECIAL  LICENSE it's bad enough ow where some police almost have a heart attack when a carry license is offered one time I had to as a passenger raise my hands and wait till I was told to exit the vehicle FOR A TRAFFIC STOP OF VERY VERY MINOR ISSUE.  and we were both well mature dressed like your average Texan going to eat lunch.

Stupid stupid crap because of fear, when I was a kid EVERYONE had a gun in the vehicle  I do not recall the police having a panic attack or even asking that stupid question it was taken for granted and any officer that does not take that a person or vehicle is packing is a complete fool all the old cops could tell if you were hinkey from a block away or a mile as Hiway Patrol with any time on the job sense it and see vehicle anomalies driver actions that make them aware.

I don't know why this person did what they did and a gun is not a automatic death sentence more people survive being shot.  What they don't survive is not being armed like at the Luby's restaurant in Waco Texas HERE IS THE VIDEO

 Dr. Suzanna Hupp Testimony Before Congress on the 2nd Amendment

A WWII survivor under Hitler and the Nazi's

under hitler gun registraion DONT LEY THEM TAKE YOUR GUNS BY A JEWISH WOMAN

even some Hollywood folk GET IT  Hollywood types who get it !!!

Tell Fox News to send these reporters packing I want to restrict their check I want their fist amendment right limited like the MSM they want to CONTROL the news the narrative and limit your opinion form ever being heard,  all of the social media are limiting post and opinions that are about 2nd amendment Republican issues and religion other than Islam !

power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely and HISTORY PROVES THAT IF YOU CANNOT DEFEND YOURSELF THEY WILL MURDER YOU 262 MILLION civilians in nations around the world n the last 100 years !!! it's fight for your rights or for your life without a way to survive.

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Got that right wally I was talking to some retard and found all he owned was a skeet gun and he felt that way i asked what happens when they require like in England and other countries that you keep your gun at the "CLUB" you are not allowed to keep it at home ? if your being invaded by a robber your in deep dodo.

Australia's dirty little secret is violence is out of control and groups are breaking into homes and hanging out partying  with the home owners tied up if the woman looks good they rape her and it is all a mater of taste if they rape the children or not.

Stupid people here in Texas do not understand that because one person has a gun on the block the criminal has no idea who that may be so it makes them nervous enough that all the homes are safe.

Hurricane Harvey LMAO most housing developments that were flooded home owners who were dry stood watch from their yards limiting the amount of looting , The assistant Governor stated that Texans knew how to handle looter and that helped to quell mass stupid people looting IMHO. 

I figure by the last vote 15 to 20% of people now are socialists communists maxists  and a certain amount of people that are liberal because they think we need to pay everyone that does not want to work and legalize all drugs and have open borders these are the same people that live in a gated community with alarm systems or else the illegals themselves.

If anyone comes legally I am all for it if you did not,  watch your P's and Q's as unless you have committed a felony no one should harass you but one felony ADIOS and never be allowed to return EVER.

the Mexican cartels Haitian posse's the Russian mob and a dozen other groups are turning our country into a bloodbath as it is gangs drugs and their business that is fueling all this murder I would like to see the, "no visible means of support" law come back if you cannot prove your able to support yourself have a job or a business or investments you need to be looked at very carefully IMHO. and if you have a record and no list of looking for work you need to be on a watch list no arrest just a welfare check daily IMHO.

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First pray for the wounded and survivors of this tragedy, and pray in earnest for the families of those take from us . to give them peace in a time of such horrible suffering and a firm knowledge that they are in more merciful and loving hands of the Lord where there is no pain or sorrow anymore.

It is very sad that so many people in a sanctuary died, the good news is I am sure that they are with the Lord Jesus Christ in the very moment.

People are asking or demanding to do something, how about teach your children respect for life and love and abiding knowledge that there is a God and we are responsible and will stand before him to be judged and that hell is not a mythical place,  cleansing our nation of references to the 10 commandments eliminating the mention of God Christ or the bible in schools political venues and harsh rhetoric against Christ and God undermine the human conscience  or spirit.

Either your for or against abuse, evil, hatred, murder, or your against God and his 11 commandments YES 11   

John 13:34New King James Version (NKJV)

34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

This man did none of that, he chose to operate by his own rules reject Gods rule in his life and will reaped what he sewed. I am sad for his family to endure what must be so inconceivable and painful and that they will never come to terms with it.

Closure a word tossed around today, I tell you there is no closure not in this life, we may cry loose sleep form hatred or even forgive,but the pain will return for those we loose the pain may melt away temporarily  but like the cold blast of winter it will return, Unless your anchored in the love of Jesus your salvation and theirs is secure and you will see them again in Glory a persons own ability to weather this is doubtful, because this makes no sense. There is no understanding or altering the events only a power beyond ours that will if asked comfort us in our time of pain that will return.

If you live long enough death sickness and loss will try to crush you this act was an abomination but no one evades death pray you do not have to bury your children pray you and your friends and family  pass peacefully or quickly and you are left with the full knowledge that they are believers with Jesus because I have seen what doubt of a loved ones salvations does it leaves a constant nagging question in your heart and that is more cruel and heartbreaking than any incident that can happen as to never know in this life. IMHO if you have not made a decision to make Jesus your Lord and savior consider well that you will not live forever your next breath is not guaranteed and if your not living for God with love decency honor and dignity and trying to instill hem in others your living for the wrong things.

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I am just so disturbed by the lefts constant attack on the 2nd amendment, they are like idiot children that cannot understand the word NO !

As we live in such dangerous times I cannot explain why the total elimination of firearms would make no change, the only change would be the method of murder and killing. and in may cases more innocent people would die because the methods would be so horrific that anyone in the area or in the way would be turned into victims.

Our boarders are so porous that billions of dollars of drugs human trafficking and aliens wash over our border like sea water washed over the Titanic. Thousands have been murdered by gangs wholly or coincidentally involved in Foreign gangs activity and most are done with GUNS.  The day our government makes firearms illegal The Gangs will be driving in ammunitions and guns by the dump truck load just as they bring in drugs now< human trafficking thousand of human beings men women and children into the sex trade HERE IN THIS COUNTRY so how hard would it be to bring in a load of weapons MILITARY machine guns and submachine guns and ammunition ? not one problem as their members have no choice do as your told or be murdered. When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns is not just a bumper sticker it is a fact.  Canada has very strict laws Ireland and Scotland and yet the criminals and radical groups there have guns Russia and Chinas criminals have guns because of our lame media we are never shown how the police handle criminals except Russia a few videos you have to hunt on screwtube (youtube)

It is a friggin joke most every gang member has a pistol and they don't care if they get arrested because we the people fear arrest and the police we won't carry a gun so the law MAKES US VICTIMS AND THEY COULD CARE LESS. t is obvious by the sentencing murder against a run of the mill citizen makes the paper for a day or two and then you do not know what happened only tear jerker race related or blood & gore interest pieces make it in the News papers or the nightly TV news for a minute piece and HOW ABUT THEM FOOTBALL TEAMS BASKET BALL OR SOME FAT WH@RES BACKSIDES AND FAMILY.  This is nothing but political and entertainment theater High Tech Roman Colosseum antics.

You really want to know why we need the unrestricted second amendment look at how close we came to having our government taken over by a criminal enterprise the total corruption of our legal system the lies and actual treason money laundering our soldiers have been used to guard poppy fields and make war on a warlords direct competition / another warlord. There is REAL evidence that some of the news networks and talking heads are paid assets of the deep state and there are numerous agencies with tons of cash to promote their agenda.  Politicians and agency heads have been bribed threatened or promised "something" for their cooperation.

Our nation governmental system is like a rotting corpse in the sun, at any moment it is going to burst open and all the maggots are going to be exposed  This is the most dangerous time as all the criminals are scared and in fear of their crimes becoming public knowledge and the loss of all their power money and prestige not to mention the pubilic shame of their families and let's not forget prison FEDERAL PRISON  it is not like state prison you do 3/4 of your time not a lousy month on each year.  Even so there are country club fed prisons that if me or you were convicted would never see again a 2 tiered system US and THEM we are just crap on their heel and they are always trying to scrape us off.

Imagine what they would do if they had NO FEAR of anyone the police in their pocket the courts IRS and every agency as their beck and call to attack anyone imprison anyone murder anyone and make it look like an accident or suicide.

I hate to say it but I don't believe anything anyone or information from news sources of most any kind. Las Vegas is obviously being mediated witnesses are dying or being killed and I hate to say I can't believe that it is all by accident in fact there are groups like geneticists that are dying like flies in every country perfectly healthy people young and no sign of disease or issue KLUNK fall over dead IT'S creepy weird.

The battle for this country is not even started yet but the inner workings are trying everything to take our weapons our only line of defense against criminals and tyrants because if they can do so they can tax you out of your home create instability to increase food prices they have destroyed the health care system. They ( I hate using the term THEY ) but there are interested parties that want to gut agencies and systems to make a profit. Agenda 21 is NOT a hoax or a conspiracy theory they thought they had it in the bag and got cocky and without fear told rooms full of people important and highly placed that their agenda is to lower the WORLD population to 1 billion to a half billion if your bad at math that means only 1 in 7 people on earth would be alive if the power were in their hands ! and they do not want old people no impaired or sickly certain races and ethnic groups I am sure they don't want around many of the most powerful and rich people are members or on counsels and boards that make decisions that directly impacts your life your children your health even the food you eat === think that vegetables are good for you then why do we get them from Mexico ? how many times have we had illnesses from imported food ! did you know that radiation levels are not set in stone as to our food it's sources and how much is really tested ?

I am only touching on the tip of the iceberg, Remember that scene in James Bond I think it was Russia with love where they were filming Bond through a 2 way mirror in bed with an agent ? Imagine if you were on the other side watching this freak show going on you would go out of your mind !

Recent tell all books are flooding book stores people now who think they are safe from power brokers in government are spilling their guts on how corrupt a depraved sick and twisted from just vile to child molesters thieves and foreign agents paid by foreign powers --- it's funny if your a twisted POS when you got your boot on the neck of the common man now we are seeing the power turn and many of these tell all writers are shoring up defenses so they don't get their rat tail caught in the door, because they KNEW what was happening all the women that our countries leader was allegedly raping groping the drugs the lies they were there and did NOTHING until they got their retirement and their nest all fluffy  from Admirals Generals congressmen senators judges Attorney generals  their staff secretaries this crap did not happen in a vacuum there were body guards police and people that we expect to uphold the law look out for our best interests and they were silent while your family was in the service geting maimed and killed   they got fat while your investments went in the toilet it takes 2 to make on families living and even then they need more and more taxes !

People We have been asleep too long time to have a phone list of every politician that has your life in their hands vote and know what your voting for screw your political party ask real and hard questions demand answers to hell with football their taking a knee and you need to take no lip service call out lies you either defend this nation, your home or it will be taken and you will be enslaved financially and or physically and your children and family will be ground into the dirt, just how many people do you need to see under overpasses and bridges before you get into the fight ?

 

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....oh JCMS, always a man of so few words:P...

I think that this is the one that will bite the left in their 2 way arses.

We know that the system failed in so any ways at every step, the Navy didn't report the crimes, the shooter lied on ALL the 4473 forms he filled out to get the firearms. LEO was unable to effect anything on the situation, instead it was armed citizens that stopped the maniac......somehow the state of Texas knew more than the NCIS when they refused the CCW. TED Cruz was on Fox News last night...like him or not he is one of our best defenders on this... He talked about the bill he co-sponsored that would force the enforcement of existing laws. Claims that in 2015 I believe it was that they know that over 48,000 felons and such lied on 4473 forms but only 44 were charged. This one is on the left and their constant interference with existing laws in attempts to get new ones.

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The story is now so convoluted it is now virtually unrecognizable here are some facts

1. the police never saw the gunman during or after alive, and were in no way responsible for stopping his attack.

2 two citizens one with a rifle engaged him and I think shot him as he had wounds other than his self inflicted suicide wound. the other man was reporting to 911 while they chased him.

3 failure to report his crimes while in the service allowed him to buy firearms.

4 We cannot take the information from news sources as fact as all of them rushed and got the facts all mixed up.

 

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I find it incredulous, that none of the so-called experts in “the media” have a clue about evil doers and why they engage in these heinous acts.

The deceased shooter was an ardent and militant atheist, and wanted to murder all of his ex wife’s family members. The shooter was shot once in the left thigh and the left side of his chest through a gap in his body armor by the one armed “good guy”, who was barefoot and willing to engage the shooter to stop the murder of his neighbors. The driver of the pickup, willingly chased the armed suspect with the good guy, and the forced the suspect to crash. If the shooter hadn’t shot himself, the coroner said that the thoracic shot was causing the suspect to bleed out anyway, and he would have died from that wound and possibly his left leg wound. So, both the suspect and the good guy were using AR-15 rifles on that fateful Sunday, one to prevent further bloodshed and the other, to continue his murderous ant-religion hatred. 

Of course this was a hate crime, of course the Federal reporting system failed, and of course the shooter typically took the cowards way out.

Yet somehow, an inanimate object is fully responsible for this heinous act. Using that same “logic”, we just of course, ban all motor vehicles because of the drunken drivers whose  ehicles cause more than 30,000 deaths annually in our country, plus the more than 50,000 gore IOU’s injuries. Somehow, the hypocrisy of their flawed “logic”escapes these nitwits, who so willingly, demand our Constitutional Rights be stripped from us, in the name of “security”. Adolf Hitler demanded and got the same thing, and look how well that turned out for mankind.

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Thanks for the new info TPSnodgrass.

I did not know that both rifles were AR's makes it all the more ironic in the aspect of one was used for evil and the other for defense of everyone else in town , and that part none of them get ! if the attacker had not had a challenge he would have shot the survivors in the church and went on to maybe shoot anyone he came across and surly any officers who were looking for him if they had ever figured out who he was ? RIGHT,  as who would have known !  If not for the heroes of this story (Stephen Willeford and Johnnie Langendorff) the shooter might still be at large.  Another fact that antigun morons don't get any felon that escapes lives to create more destruction if that were not true we would have no serial killers people that are evil live and thrive on it.  Had Devin Patrick Kelley not been stopped how long would it be before the police and FBI figured out who he was ? they would have had to back check 26 people history and the 20 survivors unless he had shown his face or left trace evidence and that may have taken days, days that he may have well killed more people and police officers.

All this information was like a slow leaking tire and the police did not correct the narrative that Devin Patrick Kelley was shot and killed by police or that really they had nothing to do with the mass murder but after the fact and that is where most police are most active after the fact I am really surprised that our two hereoes were not arrested because they had no right to chase the suspect the shooter had a right to defend once fired on and that is technically all many people have been jailed and even put in prison for chasing and using a weapon as a threat past their property lines.

one of the commercials for carry insurance has just that story line man defending his home and family is tricked into getting off his property and then the cops arrest him and not the group that threatened him and his family he went to jail and his family were left without defense, I am still waiting for the other shoe to drop If I am not mistaken a grand jury still has to set and we will see as of now because this is so horrendous and their actions so valiant it is one of those instances where a grand jury would no bill them but that flies in the face of the law/s but that is law for you flexible as a double jointed wh@re and just as fickle IMHO.

it if very funny that Christians get such a bad rap it is very rare that Christians go on killing sprees but it is OK to be a atheist who kills or satanist it is chalked up as a crazy person not a mentally deranged  God and Christian hating Christianophobia  I am amazed that the ALTLEFT has not stated that they deserved it for clinging to their God and their guns and of course living in Texas they hate Texas, Texans,  Guns Christians and God synonymously  with zeal and breaking out in cheers when something bad happens like Hurricane Harvey remember all the crazy things said !

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