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thanks RC, i am jus repeating manfu's. claims. after some intense looking, its a katadyn survivor 06 with a manual pump, using reverse osmosis technology. If you know how to make a moonshine still, you can make drinkable water from seawater and table sea salt as a byproduct too!! =0)

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thanks RC, i am jus repeating manfu's. claims. after some intense looking, its a katadyn survivor 06 with a manual pump, using reverse osmosis technology. If you know how to make a moonshine still, you can make drinkable water from seawater and table sea salt as a byproduct too!! =0)

 

RO filters do pass what is essentially distilled water. Any other type filter won't do that effectively. RO filters are neat things but they do require some time to work. They are however extremely effective.

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I fully recommend getting aquainted with a water treatment specialist. The companies that really do water treatment. I do consider myself an expert on the subjest and have been making my living with it for about 15 years now. If you want a good filter for backpacking, then backpacking magazines are the way to go. If you want to do batch jobs and keep yourself in safe drinking water indefinitely, look to the water quality magazines. The local kinetico or culligan people can point you in the right direction. Talk to the fellows that run the place and design the systems. If they just do residential r.o.'s and softeners, they might have limited knowledge, but there are other companies that do amazing things with water and can help you design a cost effective system for your basement, bunker, or mountain hide-out. It seems that the same cubic feet of equiptment can make much greater cubic feet of water.

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If you want to rule out everything I would go with the ceramic pumps that get down to .1 micron and keep a uv light rod to stir it with. Iodine tabs and chlorine pellets are great to carry. I love to be safe. Boiling is awesome but it doesn't hit the 250 deg. F you need for some critters. (like when canning) Have it all with you. To deactivate cysts and spores and filter them out you want the uv and .1 micron. The water has to be like solar still clean for the uv light to always work. Some stuff can hide behind others in the "shadow" and not be killed or deactivated by the uv light. Still use the calcium or sodium hypochlorite and keep the iodine tabs with you as well.

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hum..... ok in my situation at the moment, i cant carry all that you mentioned above.

so if you can suggest a product that meets your suggestions i'll be greatful. from my understanding

the only product that gets down to .1 micron's is the link i gave a page back. i could be wrong on that

but im willing to listen.

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yes a back up is a good idea. in a filter im looking for not having to add anything else, just filter and drink.

ok so you mentioned above that some critters might need 250deg to kill when boiling.

ive been mislead for a while im guessing cause im to the understanding that a rolling boil for between 5-10 minutes will kill everything. looking up pur scout

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the bacteria that makes the toxin that gives us botulism is everywhere. It needs an oxygen free environment to thrive. when it goes into its protected form, we have to get it to 250 at 15psi for a while to kill it off. If not it can reactivate inside us and make us sick. That's my understanding anyways.

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Found this other thing just recently as well. Apparently if we see blue-green algae we should maybe steer clear. There's this Cyanobacteria that gives off a toxin that boiling won't help. Not all are the toxic kind. I'll have to do some more "research" on it when I get home today. Seem like Canada is more concerned than we are here. www.hs-sc.gc.ca

It's under environmental health concerns.

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that showed up in 2009 in 19 lakes in ohio some nasty stuff. it gives off a nurotoxin they stopped all swimming and recreational activities at the lakes. Its put a crimp in my fishing the last 2 yrs. see if they get it cleaned up in 2012. I know people had pets dying from drinking the water before they caught it.

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Found this other thing just recently as well. Apparently if we see blue-green algae we should maybe steer clear. There's this Cyanobacteria that gives off a toxin that boiling won't help. Not all are the toxic kind. I'll have to do some more "research" on it when I get home today. Seem like Canada is more concerned than we are here. www.hs-sc.gc.ca

It's under environmental health concerns.

 

 

Isn't most algae blue-green, or is this one bluer than the others?

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What do you think about the steripens, rick? Do you trust them?

 

yes i do but only to an extent which is just like everything else. thing is, you still need to filter the water anyways after the steripen treatment. it would have been better if the thing ran on batteries too. i do think its a step in the right direction for water treatment.

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kyadyn ones work well enough. I mean I'm not dead after filtering some mystery water that was defying the laws on physics and just coming out of the ground at the top of a hill.

 

put my life on the line with a kyadyn many a time. Never ever let me down. Once I sucked two gallons of water out of a mud trickle that took a hour and a half. The water source had almost dried up and i had 12 people in my party of backpackers and another 8 miles to another water source.

Only time i replaced the kyadyn is when one of my scouts borrowed mine. When i said use boiling water to sterilize it , he boiled it for 30 minutes.

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I have had my MSR Miniworks for 10 years, and it is still pumping out clean water. What makes this filter user friendly is that you can attatch it directly to a Nalgene bottle or a MSR Dromedary bag. This pump also takes out odor and floatys, so if you are going to pump from heavy water (sediment), you will need to clean the filter often. Or just filter the water first thru a bandana or coffee filter if you have time. You will know when to clean it, as it becomes very hard to pump. Cleaning is very easy and maintaining it in the field is a breeze. Word of caution with this filter. If you are going to use it during the winter, be very careful as the ceramic filter/element can crack due to low temps, and they run 40 bucks a piece. Also, when storing it, break it down, clean it and make sure all is dry before putting it away. I would not hesitate a second to buy this filter again if needed.

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