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I need a new EDC pocket knife. I have been varrying a Kershaw Chive, but it is a piece of junk that needs to be tightened every few days. I the past I have had a Gerber Gator (junk) and SOG Stingray (decent knife but weak lock) and a William Henry (great knife). I broke the tip on the WH and cannot seem to find the company anymore to get it fixed. I dont need something superslick and custom. I am purely a function guy and need someting that I can abuse the crap out of. I'm also not a fan of bulky knives like the spyderco's. I hear they are great knives, but all that I have seen are too large. There is no spyderco dealer here to look and smaller models. I'm not super opposed to them, just need a small one. Thanks for any help.

 

PS Looking for someting in the $50-$65 range. I may go higher, but that is my goal.

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Well I have a lot of different type of knives but I would strongly recommend you look into Spyderco Knives. My EDC right now is a Manix 2 from Spyderco, and a Spyderco has been in my pocket everyday now for about 8 months. (That is the longest I have gone without switching it up.) They have plenty of knives in the range that you are looking too.

 

Just like guns though I would make sure you find somebody that has them in stock to at least try them out. Nothing would stink more that spending a lot of money on a knife to find out ya don't like the way it fits your hand. (I'm sure you knew that though.) Some of the ones I ordered on line have been able to be returned though too.

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I am going to have to say Spyderco as well, they have a large variety of sizes. We sell Spyderco knives at the SurvivalCache E-Store. Here is a link to our blades section https://www.forgesurvivalsupply.com/store/survival-knives/18.html?redirected=1. I am sad to say that I agree with your statement about Kershaw, wonderful steel, poor construction. Thanks for posting.

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There is no Spyderco dealer around here. And I definately want to hold the knife before I buy it. The two of three Spydercos that I havce held in the past, I did not like. They were too big. I know that they make smaller ones, but I need to hold it in my hand. And they may turn out like Glocks for me. Wonderful guns, but hate they way they sit in my hand and when I instinctively shoot they, I am always high. The hand grip angle is just wrong for me. The couple of Spydercos that I held, were just bulky to me. I dont like the "ring bulge" in the blade.

 

I realy like my William Henry, but they are REALLY expensive and really nice. I am looking for a work knife to cut boxes (with staples) and generally beat the crap out of. I plan to USE it!! haha.

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I use a Gerber Bear Grylls Scout Drop Point Knife. It's only $20, and has the same style blade as the LMF II, just smaller. It has a clip for your pockets and a pretty decent grip on it. It's a great general purpose, every day knife. And if you want something a little bit bigger, they make one a bit bigger and it comes with a sheath.

 

http://www.gerbergear.com/Survival/Knives/Survival-Series-Scout_31-000754

 

or the bigger one

http://www.gerbergear.com/Survival/Knives/Survival-Series-Folding-Sheath-Knife_31-000752

 

I hope this helped!

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I've discovered that I can't find "a" knife that works for me. That is why I usually carry 3 to 5 blades of one form or another. Everything from a thin knife suitable for filleting a fish to a machete for use on the brush. My Kay Bar is a great all around knife, but I use my "Old Timer" folder day in and day out (the Kay Bar attracts too much attention on a federal reservation), my Swiss Army is used frequently, especially the can opener, and the Leatherman blade is a backup as is the NRA knife. My Army commo knife is used around my radios all the time and I have some surgical scalpels for really fine work and medical uses. Oh, and two sizes of box cutters.

My lady the other day told my daughter to borrow my knife. I asked her how she knew I had a knife and she said, "Because you're you!" She was, of course, right. I'd hate to be forced into just one knife, just like I would hate to be forced into just one firearm. Multitaskers are great and are a survivalists best choice but they are always a bit of a compromise. That is why I like to have several that cover the range of needs better than just one.

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I'll check into that Bear Grills knife.

 

yeah, I agree on the many blades to fit the bill thing. I too have several blades, but I can never find a smallish folder that is worth a damn. The Kukri would get stares if I wore it! haha The Kershaw chive is too small and constantly needs tightening. Looking for something a little larger that I can whip out of the pocket and cut box tops and packing straps at work, or open a package for the wife, etc. But I dont want something large enought that it "prints" in my pocket or I can feel the weight when I wear shorts. Something arout 3.5X1 with a 3-ish inch blade...

 

I kinda like this one, but dont know anything about CRKT...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-River-Knife-Delegate-1055W/dp/B0033H7V6S/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3KTRPX3WBCDX0&colid=2HT0QXXA9GHLQ

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I agree with the captain. I always have at least my Swiss Army Tinker and the Bear Grylls Scout Knife in my pocket just because they serve different purposes.

 

Sometime people give me looks when they see I use or I suggest the Gerber Bear Grylls Scout Knives. The facts are: the large Ultimate Survival Knife is a cheaper alternative to the LMF II and the Prodigy, but the folding Scouts are good knives from a great company and are made well. I've never had a problem with mine, I've even taken it apart a few times to clean the entire blade and it's still just as sturdy as ever.

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I feel you on the swiss army. I like them too, as long as they are not too big and crazy. I prefer the "Camper" model. I dont currently have one, but I carry my Gerber 600 Multitool most of the time. But I need something quicker and more convenient. Looking for suggestions here, because I have bought several knives that I thought were good in the past only to find out that they were crap. I was REALLY disappointed with the SOG Stingray. Absolutely AWESOME knife. Best blade that I have ever owned, quality construction through and through, but a really crappy lock that you could tap the back of the blade and it would come undone (after about a year of use) Was strong at first, but as the catch wore, it got worse and worse...

 

I will def check into the Bear Grills tomorrow or Sunday at Academy. I'm just afraid it is larger than what I am looking for. I guess we will see. Thanks guys.

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i carry a benchmade 585. might be big for you but the quality is excellent in my opinion. i beat the crap out of it and it keeps up no problem. blade holds edge very well, and the benchmade customer service is great. its a little over your noted price range but they have a huge selection and the smaller knives are right where you need them to be. i definately think theyre worth a look

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Ready?4What?,

you might check the local gun shows for used knives. I picked up an old Case folder for $25 that I wouldn't take a $100 for. Took me a while to get the edge I wanted on it but once there I don't think I could dull it with a hammer. I have a belt carrier for it but it also fits well in my pocket. I won't buy Chinese steel so for me, many of my knives are used but I figure if folks are silly enough to sell their great, older knives for something new that isn't nearly as good, I'll help them out.

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I ended up getting the Gerber Bear Grills Scout. It is the smaller of the two full size folders. I'm not a big fan of half serrated blades because they are all but impossible to sharpen, but that all that is available. It turns out that the serrated adge helps out alot in cutting down boxtops at work, but am concerned with the ability to resharpen. We'll see. If it turns out that I dont like it, it is of good enough quality that it should make do until I find something else.

 

Overall, the quality is above average for a knife in this price range ($30). The blade looks decent and has a super sharp edge out of the package. It as a great looking dark grey anozided finsh. The scales (handles) are of a semi grippy textured plastic with orange end caps. I dont like the orange at all and they make it look kinda gimmicky. But the feel and function are not gimmicky at all. I think that Gerber has hit a homerun with this one. But maybe make it in grey with od green accents. I know, I know. Grills all about surviving to get rescued, thus the safety orange.

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I resharpen my serration with this:

http://www.amazon.com/Smiths-PP1-Pocket-Multifunction-Sharpener/dp/B000O8OTNC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1316056386&sr=8-3

 

It has a ceramic and carbide blade sharpeners in it and a folding out file that you can use on serrations. It's a little bit bigger than a bic lighter and for sale at Walmart for $9. I have one in my BOB, one in my car and one in my SOG SEAL Pup sheath's pouch (along with a firesteel).

 

I agree with the design of the knife, it does look gimmicky. However, I've found that that's about the only issue with the Bear Grylls Series (and the sheath quality of the Ultimate Survival Knife) and they are otherwise very great knives (except the Ultimate Survival Knife, just save up a bit more and get the LMF II).

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I was wanting an LMF II realy bad. When I went looking for my new pocket EDC knife, I found a store in town that stocked it. It was way too bulky to me and the handle is made for giants. I dont have small hands and it was ungainly for me. I'll definatly be getting my #2 choice now, the SOG Seal Pup... I just dont need anything as big as the LMF II. I already have a 12" Khukri for the really big work. I need somthing in the Pups size range for general use. I prefer a fixed blade for general use. I only carry a pocket folder because a sheath knife is unpractical and possibly illegal for everyday use. In the lawless zombie aftermath, my folders will become 3rd or 4th string, maybe even the band or cheerleaders... They will only get to play when the score is 70 to 0! haha

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My dad is a custom knifemaker and I have designed a few knives myself. I am active on two knife forums, KnifeDogs.com and JerzeeDevil.com, and have had the pleasure of becoming friends with some of the best knifemakers in the world. I've attended the Blade Show in Atlanta for the past fourteen years which is a great opportunity to handle everyone's knives!

 

Different knives obviously suit different people and different tasks. I've had knives from almost all of the major brands and liked different things about each of them. You mentioned Spyderco and I like their knives alot. I fully realize too though that their patented Spyderhole takes the spine out of the knife and if you have to twist or torque the knife in an emergency, it will eventually snap which could cost fingers or eyes. CRKT make great knives for the money, but stay away from anything with a bead blast finish if you live someplace that is ever at all humid. The bead blasting makes the surface more porous and they will rust in your pocket. I am a big fan of Cold Steel's Voyager line-up and they come in several sizes. Benchmade makes an excellent product too, but pricier.

 

I was always taught to buy the best tools I could afford. I've owned six hundred dollar knives, but you won't catch me cutting anything but air with them! The critical thing to remember is if you don't have five dollar fingers, don't buy five dollar knives! handles break, blades snap, and locks fail. The better knife you buy the less likely that will happen even if the knife gets abused some occasionally.

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Yeah, the LMF II is not a EDC knife. I have mine as part of my BOB, and my SOG Seal PUP is on my camping backpack shoulder strap for use when hiking. Illinois has really harsh knife and gun laws so I can only ever have my Gerber Scout and/or Swiss Army Tinker on my person legally.

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My dad is a custom knifemaker and I have designed a few knives myself. I am active on two knife forums, KnifeDogs.com and JerzeeDevil.com, and have had the pleasure of becoming friends with some of the best knifemakers in the world. I've attended the Blade Show in Atlanta for the past fourteen years which is a great opportunity to handle everyone's knives!

 

Different knives obviously suit different people and different tasks. I've had knives from almost all of the major brands and liked different things about each of them. You mentioned Spyderco and I like their knives alot. I fully realize too though that their patented Spyderhole takes the spine out of the knife and if you have to twist or torque the knife in an emergency, it will eventually snap which could cost fingers or eyes. CRKT make great knives for the money, but stay away from anything with a bead blast finish if you live someplace that is ever at all humid. The bead blasting makes the surface more porous and they will rust in your pocket. I am a big fan of Cold Steel's Voyager line-up and they come in several sizes. Benchmade makes an excellent product too, but pricier.

 

I was always taught to buy the best tools I could afford. I've owned six hundred dollar knives, but you won't catch me cutting anything but air with them! The critical thing to remember is if you don't have five dollar fingers, don't buy five dollar knives! handles break, blades snap, and locks fail. The better knife you buy the less likely that will happen even if the knife gets abused some occasionally.

 

Wow! It sounds like you are more qualified to mod this forum than I am. Welcome aboard, I look forward to seeing more from you in the future.

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Wow! It sounds like you are more qualified to mod this forum than I am. Welcome aboard, I look forward to seeing more from you in the future.

 

Josh, I'm not an expert, but I know where to go when I have questions and have enjoyed the industry and its people for most of my life.

 

I'll be around.

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Does anyone know anything about the leatherman e33l or c33l. I'm looking for a good knife in the 3" size range that has a pocket clip, quick deployment, and good edge retention (but not super hard steel because I'm not that great at sharpening yet). I like the sypderco's but I don't want to buy Chinese steel. The leathermans appeal to me because they're made in USA with US steel and I already own / love one of their multitools. From what I have been able to find online, the 154CM steel in the e33l has better edge retention than the 420HC in the c33l but I don't know if its worth the extra money or how much more difficult it is to sharpen. Also, the e33l has a "hollow ground" edge. Can anyone tell me what that's all about and if its a good thing for a knife that will most likely be used for everything from opening mail / packages to skinning and gutting small game?

 

Sorry I'm throwing a whole bunch of questions out there, but basically I'm new enough at this that I want to check a knife out as much as I can before I buy.

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I won't buy Chinese steel

 

If that is your preference, beware. Several companies that made their knives in the USA or Japan for years are now having models made in China. This includes Spyderco, CRKT, and some Cold Steel knives too. I am sure there are many others doing the same.

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Rock,

Yep, good point. I have gotten burned by "American" made knives that were made with Chinese steel or made in China in total. I've gotten to where I won't buy one over the internet unless I personally know that it is not made in China.

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