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OC, just wanted to give you a heads up on the new P.S. Power book-Lord of the Sky. This is the Timon book and is due out May 15. I liked it okay, except Trice makes a large appearance and I just cannot stand the character. I don't get the author's fascination with this annoying ho bag when he has so many other, more interesting female characters like Petra, Karina, or even Karen Derring to write about. Sorry, just my opinion. Anyway, not my favorite in the series but does have some plot development as well as a few twists.

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Always excited to read a new P.S. Power book, even if he insists upon making Trice into a heroine when she's not the most interesting character. Still, the rest are so interesting - and Timon definitely has more to say. You could practically hear the wheels turning in his head in Tor's book!

 

For another recommendation, check out CyberStorm by Matthew Mather. It's a great description of urban survival, what would happen if multiple cyber attacks flattened some of the U.S. military and energy infrastructure - and then a bad weather system socked in the East Coast. Completely fascinating in terms of how to survive (and how NOT to), and thoughts about missing your window for bugging out, at what point you stop helping other people, how dangerous others are, etc. Some of the things seem a little far-fetched (the "meshnet" may make you roll your eyes) but it's ultimately fascinating and really well-written. The cast of characters is especially interesting, from an upwardly mobile couple with a baby and a shaky marriage, to die-hard preppers, to elderly neighbors who survived the Siege of Leningrad, and more. All of the different perspectives combine to make the situation - and people's responses - somehow more vivid and more realistic.

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Dang it, I have Cyberstorm in my Amazon kiosk but I can't buy it until later. I just got off the phone with my credit card company and I had to cancel the account due to and attempted fraudulent transaction. Fortunately my CC company smelled a rat and declined the transaction (hurray for that) but for now I have no access to Amazon for a few days.

 

OC, as P.S. Power, I am sure I am no longer on his Christmas list because I indicated my opinion as such to him when I sent back my proofed copy of the new book. I said it nicely, but I was really hoping Timon would marry Karina instead. She is much more interesting to me and has had a pretty rough go of it as well. Dang, we sound like we are watching soap operas now.

 

Terry, I bought the new version (because if we don't support our favorite authors, who will?) of Gran De Daddy a week ago or so and reread it- I was doing my happy dance when I saw the teaser page for Don't Mess With Me at the end. By the way, let me know if you ever want any help editing. I am not a professional, so strictly volunteer, but I have helped some folks in the past. In fact, I just got my first editor credit on Amazon. That was pretty cool.

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Okay, I just started reading a new book in the survival fiction category and I was wondering if anyone else has read it. The Time of Chaos by Gia Scott has some funny ideas and the story is still a little disjointed about 40% into it (multiple characters spread out over an extended time period, and veers away from the supposed main characters), but I have already found some really "cool" stuff in here about how to build a more effective winter camp. You can tell the author has actually tried this stuff by what works and what doesn't. The story has elements of both pandemic and economic collapse and coping with the fallout.

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I finished The Time of Chaos and I just don't know what to think about it. I liked the story, especially the way the various groups of kids manage to survive, but the stuff about flying saucers and ancient Native American bloodlines was a little distracting. I would recommend it for the survival details but I am still scratching my head a bit.

 

On a different note, I also read Surviving Home, the sequel to Going Home, by A. American. Lots of details about getting by following an EMP/CME event, both using old ways and adapting new tech, which I liked. Lots of action, some of it sudden and brutal, as well as developed more about the plan mentioned in the first book about certain elements of the government trying to take over and other elements resisting. Some of the methods used by the DHS are downright diabolical, I might add. This is leading to a civil war that the civilians are barely aware is going on around them. If you liked the first book, you will love this one.

 

Also, thanks to the recommendations here, I just started Cyberstorm. The urban setting in New York City was making me antsy even before things started going wrong! Wow, my prediction is this book is likely to have a high body count before it is over based on my own few visits to NYC. I think I heard they already practice cannibalism there, right? As long as the serving sizes meet with Mayor Bloomberg's approval, of course.

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I hope you thoroughly enjoy Cyberstorm. Yeah, it definitely freaked me out in terms of survival in a city, and I think you'll be shocked and impressed at turns by what happens during the course of the story.

 

Okay, I bought Surviving Home because I really liked Going Home, but I almost couldn't make myself do it. Did you notice that the author changed his/her name from A. American to Angery American? And apparently didn't notice that this is not how you spell angry? LOL I have a couple of books ahead of it in my queue, but am looking forward to it!

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I read Cyberstorm and some other books while stuck in Vegas. I thought the book was really good but I had some trouble with the ending. If I had been trapped in New York City, I know that would be the LAST PLACE I would ever set foot afterwards. The neat ending just had too much of a bow on it for me.

 

I also read a really cool book entitled Devastation by Kevin McArthur, about two unlikely traveling companions making their way west after an unprecedented disaster. From the hints along the way I figured out the likely source of the devestation about halfway through the book, but that did not detract from the story. The story had too many surprises and twists to get boring, and I liked how the evil of the world was balanced with the good.

 

I also read No Normal Day about and EMP attack and the tight knit family that worked so hard to stay together in the aftermath. A little unrealistic as I couldn't see the family being able to sustain itself without farm animals but otherwise a decent read.

 

Finally, I read the last installment of The Stranded series by Theresa Shaver, Home. I liked it as much as the two previous books but I thought it was a little too short. I really enjoyed the reunions but I thought some of the characters got too little attention once they all got back together. Also, I thought the character of David, a strong presence in the second book, Sea, just became I little whiney puppy in this last book. I guess he was supposed to be their conscience, but after all these kids have been through, he just came off as weak.

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I read How I became a Teenage Survivalist by Julie Casy last night. This is aimed at the younger crowd and is light on action and the danger is muted for their sensibilities (or for the parents, really). The story is told from the journal of a boy who is 15 when the lights go out as a result of repeated CME episodes, and the first person account is engaging but was little dull for me, but I am not the target audience. This might be a good way to introduce prepping to your kids, though. The story is set in rural Kansas and glosses over the harsh realities of what people would be facing in the cities, and only touched on by a few characters who escape.

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Just read the TJ Reeder series, A Long Lonely Road. An EMP attack on the US leaves a Texan and Vietnam vet stranded in southern Montana. He begins his long trek home, running into friends and dangers along the way. There are eight books in the series so far and it's a pretty fun story. Lots of different kinds of action, likable characters, and a combination of realistic and unrealistic plot developments (not the least of which is that a guy in his mid-to late-60s winds up with a firecracker hot redhead 30 years his junior) that keep the story moving. I also really appreciate that each book truly ends, and not with a cliffhanger. You want to learn what comes next in the series, but it's not like, "Suddenly, a shot rang out. I tumbled to the ground, aware of people yelling, but everything faded to black. The End...?" or anything along those lines.

 

One thing you should be prepared for is that the books are written in a stream-of-consciousness way. It reads just like you are sitting and listening to the main character, Johnny Long Walker, telling his story. The grammar, punctuation, and even spelling is sometimes seriously botched, and there are plenty of occasions when the narrative winds down into a tangent before resuming the main story line. But if you allow yourself to be immersed in the way he thinks/writes, it's easy to follow and fun to read.

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HaHa! Oregonchick. TJ, or Joe, is a real character. I actually helped him edit Book 7 while he wrote Book 8, which was recently released. I had a hard time keeping the flavor while fixing "its" vs "it's" and getting "thru" changed to "through", for example. He splits his time between Texas and Montana in real life, though he admits he does not make the trip on horseback! Also, look for a significantly re-edited version of Free Republic of Texas coming out soon, with 20,000 words of added content (that would be me).

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LOL Too funny, Texas Bill! I just assumed that his writing was improving the more he did it, not that he'd brought in a top-notch editor such as yourself to help with the job. Regardless, I've thoroughly enjoyed his work!

 

Because I was in a PAW reading mood, I picked up The End - A Post-Apocalyptic Novel by G. Michael Hopf. The story focuses on Gordon, a veteran who joined the Marines post-9/11 and had his idealism and fervor stripped following a devastating incident in Iraq. He's gone on to build a good life for himself, his wife, and their two kids in San Diego. When a series of Super EMP attacks devastate the US, Europe, and other "western" countries, they decide to hunker down in their fairly well-prepped suburban home... and slowly realize that their own neighbors may be more dangerous than the bands of gangs roving outside their gated community. In the meantime, Gordon's brother, Sebastian, is pulled out of Afghanistan and on his way back to the US. The plan originally is to have their ARG put in near Washington, D.C., and help with recovery efforts following the nuclear attack that left the Speaker of the House as the new President, but power-grabs and political machinations soon leave him wondering whether he should "turn traitor" and seek his own family out instead. It ends with a big set-up for book two, which will be out this summer. Definitely a compelling story, but plenty of conspiracies and questions raised about where loyalty should lie when TSHTF or when your chain of command perhaps can no longer be trusted.

 

I also read Dark Days Rough Roads by Matthew Mark. The main character, Roger, is thoroughly prepped for a SHTF situation, and when an EMP hits, he puts his plans into action. First up is grabbing his home supplies and locking down his house, then checking on his parents, before making a 300+ mile trek to pick up his daughter from college and get his family to safety. It doesn't take long for things to go crazy WROL, and when the travelers reach their destination, they discover their neighbors are a "militia" who are hellbent on disarming the local citizenry and confiscating all food and fuel "for their own good." This book is not too remarkable in terms of its plot or the scenarios the author envisions - they are all ideas that have come up time and again in other similar books - but there are quite a few lengthy descriptions of ideas for preps, remaining grey/maintaining OPSEC, logically making choices about who to help and who not to help, and some pretty smart and interesting ideas about creating a defensive perimeter at your BOL. There's also some guerrilla warfare and action-adventure type stuff woven in that makes the novel pretty heavy on descriptions and actions and fairly light on character development, but it's definitely a worthwhile addition to the genre.

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I think I just read one of my favorite books of all time. The Broken Window by Jeffery Deaver is awesome. The character Lincoln Rymes is the main guy. There was a movie about one of them called The Bone Collector and it rocked as well. In this one you get a very realistic story about data mining, etc. that goes way way beyond the 1984 concept. Give it a read if you get the chance. You learn a lot since the writer relies on a lot of truth when writing. Goes along with todays news about privacy breech and so on.

 

Have a great day

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Hey, Spindrift, great to hear from you. I have Last Light on my Kindle but I haven't read it yet. I will bump it up based on your recommendation. This is crossing threads, but have you read Chris Braid's Viral zombie series? Really good stuff and more up in your neck of the woods. I admit, some of the dialog is a little hard for me to catch, sort of like you trying to decypher someone with a cajun accent.

 

t2940, I have read some of the Jeffrey Deaver books, especially Lincoln Rhymes books, but I am sorry to say the subject matter is usually a bit dark for me. Give me those happy, cheery zombies or Mutant Zombie Bikers any day.

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OC, Joe's writing IS getting better grammatically, but I love the stream of consciousness stuff he does.

 

I liked Dark Days Rough Roads by Matthew Mark, and I read it mainly because of the "bad" reviews. Yes, he is a pig and he is a "meanie", but he is also totally focused on helping his family, even including is ex-wife and her new husband. The descriptions of the areas around Detroit were pretty funny, too, and pretty much on point based on my reluctant visits to the area for work over the years.

 

SPOILER ALERT:

What he did to his neighbor who stole from him was cruel, but so was stealing Roger's food. Also, I admit it wasn't funny when his nephew got clocked in the head for trash talking a homeless person, but I laughed anyway.

 

As to The End - A Post-Apocalyptic Novel by G. Michael Hopf, I enjoyed this one as well but I thought the idea of the subdivision surviving as long as it did was highly unrealistic. I will still read the next book to see what happens.

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OC, Joe's writing IS getting better grammatically, but I love the stream of consciousness stuff he does.

 

Me, too. Because of how conversational it feels, it almost seems like someone trying to reinterpret the way Mark Twain used vernacular dialogue and slang in his work. I'm not sure that TJ Reeder is going to be our next Samuel Clements, but once I linked those two ideas in my head, it made it easier for me to relax the mental editing and just enjoy the reading part of it. LOL

 

I liked Dark Days Rough Roads by Matthew Mark, and I read it mainly because of the "bad" reviews. Yes, he is a pig and he is a "meanie", but he is also totally focused on helping his family, even including is ex-wife and her new husband. The descriptions of the areas around Detroit were pretty funny, too, and pretty much on point based on my reluctant visits to the area for work over the years.

 

SPOILER ALERT:

What he did to his neighbor who stole from him was cruel, but so was stealing Roger's food. Also, I admit it wasn't funny when his nephew got clocked in the head for trash talking a homeless person, but I laughed anyway.

 

I think both of those instances were illustrative, though they were a bit questionable (especially if you were trying to build up Roger into a major hero). What did we learn? 1. Well, if you're going to steal your neighbor's stuff, at least have the common sense to HIDE IT FROM HIM just in case he decides he wants to take it back - or suggest somebody else does. 2. Karma doesn't mind the occasional helping hand. 3. Don't look for trouble when there's already plenty of it in the world. Just because someone looks kind of pathetic - like a toothless homeless woman, for example - doesn't mean they are safe to taunt or victimize (or even help!). Stranger danger is much more severe at the end of the world, so those who survive are those who don't engage unless necessary.

 

As to The End - A Post-Apocalyptic Novel by G. Michael Hopf, I enjoyed this one as well but I thought the idea of the subdivision surviving as long as it did was highly unrealistic. I will still read the next book to see what happens.

 

Yeah - if I were in a gang of marauders in a WROL situation, the first places I'd hit would be gated communities because they would likely have the best treasure AND people who aren't used to doing their own dirty work who would easily be subdued/killed off. It seemed kind of crazy to think that a vicious gang would be roving around mere blocks from this subdivision and not try a concerted hit on it... especially if it were obvious that the people in the gated community were out looting stores themselves (increasing the value of them as a target). Plus the infighting and lack of resources within the community itself made it almost wholly untenable from the outset.

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Thanks Tx bill..............i'll look for more happy Zombie novels..................lol

 

Yep, that is what I need. Stuff with zombies, vampires, and werewolves don't bother me. Serial Killers and "torture porn" (both what little I could sit through of the "SAW" movies and "Hostel" come to mind) are really disturbing to me. I love Michael Deaver, great writer, but some of the images are just a wee bit disturbing.

 

I have also been reading some of the Fleataxi stuff I downloaded. He is a Born Again Christian and a lot of his stories reflect this, with Bible references and talk of the End Times. Also, a few of the stories are short (75-100 pages) but some of them are monsters (500-600 pages).

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I love Vampires........................I can't do SAW movies or hacker movies any more. I do like a good Zombie flick once in a while as well. My son is the Zombie freak and got me hooked.

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I am always amazed by what "real" people, as opposed to stereotypes and focus groups, find amusing. My wife is a HUGE action movie fan- loves Michael Bey movies. She also loves science fiction as long as the action doesn't get bogged down by talking heads. She refuses to watch anything close to horror and absolutely hates slasher movies. Well, I really want to see World War Z, but I am afraid that will have to be a solo trip to the theatre.

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