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How much produce did your garden grow this year?

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In my life time of gardening, this year has been really bad.

I planted 21 corn seeds & they produced not a single cob of corn.

I still have 40 tomato plants, but I only have about 15 tomatoes to be harvested.

My cucumbers didn't do well at all.

The only thing that grew well this year was my long beans.

Another thing is that, l didn't see many bees this year at all.

So how well did your garden do this year?

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That is gardening for ya'  most of this is information for the opportunistic / drive by reader 

 

Mine was hit and miss too much rain so my tomatoes did not do well Okra not as prolific yellow squash was poor but my onions horse radish and ginger did great blackberries was half of last year figs was poor output grapes did OK not phenomenal. but that is how it goes can in years of abundance pray for next years crop

Enough canned food offsets bad years canned foods last as long as the seal does.

 

One thought was time temperature of the soil and was the soil healthy or had the augmentation had time to enhance the soil when the seeds or plants were introduced.  Soil temp is paramount to success as is seed condition age storage and type Heirloom or hybrid and have you experience with that seed previously.

 

Some years it is just hard as chicken lips other years you can do no wrong if you figure it out predict you could sell that and be a rich person.

 

another reason I have railed for people to prep for problems "other than" keep pesticides, balanced fertilizer like 13-13-13 and fungicide in fact have a couple different ones in a dark cool dry area.

 

I use a raised bed set up but if I went back to ground gardening I would spray area with grass killer and even some type of pesticide Don't worry as most are pyrethrin based now cover with black plastic after a couple of weeks,   till well remove all grass. the planting of marigolds mint and others to repel insects and mice is good too.

till ground as deep as you can and re-till fluff up your dirt if your dirt is hard add in other dirt to loosen soil roots do not grow fast in tight clay / sandy soil rabbit crap is the best you can use it fresh where as you need to allow other manure to age as it is too hot and will stunt or kill the root and plant.  All products like pesticide and defoliants have a lifespan after a few weeks they cease and either you reapply or not do not use after plants bud except Sevin dust or what is recommended.  Natural is not always good but I do advise to use the least to none if you can get away with it, but usually by the time your aware your almost infested as bugs set eggs in the thousands or more per insect and once they emerge they are voracious and over night they can damage the roots or leaves until the plant cannot survive.

 

Best to hot house your plants to start them they need to be hardened to the weather gradually over a few sunny days and partial evenings ( a few hours ) then planted if frost is possible use plastic milk jugs w / bottom cut out to cover each plant or tent with clear plastic allow air flow or during the day it will steam / kill the plants as it will turn into a solar cooker in the day.

 

soil prep:  It might be good to have your local extension service test your soil / take a sample if one area looks different take a sample of that as well and find out if you need to augment with fertilizer.  Remember that grass or weeds steal nutrients so weeding and pesticide to kill underground problems like cut worms moles and such increases your chance of a bumper crop.

 

Pick an area that has some protection from full summer sun  IF YOU LIVE WHERE IT IS HOT after 3 or 4 pm sun here is brutal if you need to get some solar shade netting and use poles or 4x4's some of what I am posting is counter intuitive as farmers plant in full sun water in the day etc but day watering with high spray cools and limits sunlight water is a refractor and large plumes cools the air for the average gardener water cost and spray equipment  can make the cost more than store costs of vegetables. In some cases like expensive or exotic ones or to know what your eating it may be worth it.

 

Of course I was not there but numerous reasons could be the cause the seeds how were they kept ? best to keep them in a freezer keeps them dormant until use.

next you can over water or under water you should water late evening never during the heat of the day and some years too much rain or drought will just make you crazy.

 

Your area dictates if you should plant in the furrow or the crest of the row dry area plant in the bottom of the furrow as the moisture tends to stay there if you get between 20 to 30 inches plant on top.

 

it is good to have nearby things like berry bushes / vines or honey suckle to attract bees or even have a hive as you can get the honey as well.

 

this is my own thought if and I mean IF we ever have a real bee problem the use of a duster made of very fine plastic hairs and lightly brush over when plants bloom /flower nothing is as good as bees but growers of exotics do their own pollination for numerous reasons.

 

You can have done everything perfect and the seed was bad (moldy or too old) Heirloom seeds can be taken from the vegetable /fruit and planted the next season where as hybrid are a single season and IF they reproduce the next year wither very spotty production or nice green and no production of vegetables or fruit.  This alone cause me to have heirloom seeds from a few different sources / companies as long as they are the same species plant one row of one seed another of a different source if you use packet seeds do not plant different species next to each other cross breeding may not produce a good offspring just a guess but it has happened on commercial seed farms one farmer got sued because a corporations plants crossed with his and ruined his crop and the corporation made an example out of him.  On a garden others in the area probably would not be an issue.

 

Region region region look that the seeds you chose will grow in your area and what if any accommodations need to be made like tenting shade soil composition  fogging with oil like neem oil if the species is prone to some problem beans and cukes like to be trellised also it is important to plant as recommended by depth and distance between seeds.

 

After all of this and some sh*t just will not grow in your soil or that plant hates your guts NO this is not scientific but true none the less.  certain plants I cannot grow and I don't bother as it is a waste of my time and resources so I plant what I can grow and trade for what I want as others have this same problem. I use some type of fencing and plant on both sides.

 

All of this is for the home gardeners consideration farming is similar but their process is tried and true from experience and you can tap into that by talking to your local farmer or your extension service.

 

People that think they can just grow their food "after" are kidding themselves if they do not have practical experience.  Then there is the problem of social dispersion roving bands of hungry people. Monetary issues how can you afford pesticides and fertilizer if you need it  as well as seeds cages wire plastic etc, how about canning stuff to keep that abundance for those lean years ?

Then there is the possibility of disaster models of ash earth tilt etc etc look up 1816 year without a summer as well as Mt. St. Helen effect on regional farming and animals lack of sun lack of hay and manure causing farmers to cull their herd or too much sun and not enough water, without power water will be a real concern.

Egg production low birth rate die off from environmental factors means your sack of seeds and the distance between your belly button and your back bone is not equal or you will die before you see the first bud. and that is not an opinion it's fact.

 

This is a highly abbreviated version off the top of my head commercial / experimental farms with agronomists geneticists soil specialists and millions of dollars of specialized equipment and resources for soil augmentation  fail  I think we as novice or experienced gardeners have a better than average shot at a good garden up and to the total of LUCK weather and I ain't lying.

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i gave up on gardening last year becuase year after year the kids in my nieghborhood would vandalize it. i wanted to try a fence but that costs about 2000.00 to do so no go there(it has to be a wooden fence per park requirements.)

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I truly think with the low produce rate with my garden is do to that very hot weather this year.

I've always watered my garden in the early mornings around 7am & 8pm at night.

All of my seeds are heirloom, & the soil is healthy with a lot of earth worms.

I normally add egg shells , tea leaves, coffee grounds & fish bones in the soil.

I have 2 compost boxes as well.

I've talked to neighbours about their gardens this year & all I hear is that their gardens didn't fair as well.

Will do some soil testing in my garden come spring time next year.

I hope next years garden will fair better, God willing.

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Sorry to hear as it shows me that many are having problems in different regions.

I have considered just growing a few things like tomatoes okra and squash maybe some snow peas.

Here we can actually get 2 crops per summer if I plant in March but I will have to tent as we can get frosts until Easter.

 

Again sorry to hear all of your gardening troubles but no matter how good you prepare your garden or even experience some years are a dud,  I am as guilty as anyone but I may say it was too much rain or heat but I have had good gardens before under the same circumstances so it is only a guess and really that is all we can do is guess we do not have the scientists or entomologists to give us the real reason I have a problem of a black slug that loves my lemon trees where it climes the leaves they curl up and die so I have to use Sevin dust.  One year I had a bore worm that loves squash. another time I had bugs & squirrels eating my tomatoes then fungus on my peach trees if it ain't one thing it's another we fight against nature and it's bigger than all of us.

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My apple trees, plum trees, peach trees, pear trees & cheery trees can be a hit or a miss.

This year my cheery trees did very well, the birds had a feast eating half of them.

My pear tree is doing ok, but the pears are small, compared to last year they were quite big.

The plum trees & peach trees are half dead.

Likely plant new plum & peach trees next year.

Garden work never ends.

Nothing beats enjoying the fruits of your labour..

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Plum trees are weird at least here it seems as if they die off after a few years so if we like plums we have to replant my peach trees are about the same lots of trimming and then may have to wait till another year for peaches.

 

I got some loquat seeds going to put them down this coming spring they seem to do well and more grapes. I wish I could grow apples and cherries but our climate is not right for them.

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Last year I planted 2 mango seeds, now they are about 3 feet tall.

Having mangos growing in Canada would be amazing do to the weather conditions.

No fruits yet, time will tell what the out come will be.

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P210SIG

 

you seem industrious you can build a arboretum hot house hell I cannot remember the name anywho keep it warmed with a solar water heater w/ a solar pump and tank and you can keep as many varieties as your structure will hold.

 

"A" frames are easiest  I bought some polycarbonate hail resistant so it should stand up to severe weather just have to figure the max height of your trees and or be able to prune them without harm.

 

God is awesome I have noticed where everything is in it's time some fruits are early some fruit all through the summer others plants grow even under snow but if done well a garden or grow house can produce through out the year some edible crop then there are roots tubers and fungi / mushrooms as well as nuts that can be kept over to the next season.

It is too bad most people do not have the opportunity to experience nature if a person does not I think personally they are retarded (look up the word before whoever you are gets all offended)  Nature is brutal and cruel or dog eat dog. Man is the only sentient being capable of consistent control of baser instincts if they choose.

Now lets not get pissy about animals I "think" that they are perfection in Gods eyes as they do what He has created them for they are not "judged" as mankind of course if one kills a person they are killed but that is to remove that aggression from the gene pool

animals that do not fear man up and to a point are dangerous ask anyone who has been attacked by a Chihuahua  :lol: 

 

Back to the subject if I had th wherewithal I would build a large building lower half metal panel upper and roof polycarbonate    a 1000 gallon or more tank in ground and a roof solar water heater circulating with a solar panel powered pump to grow all season long and in summer cut out the solar water heater and circulate cool underground water for cooling the barn as the difference of 15 degrees is perfect for most growing in heat of summer and it is ground temp that is important as well as moisture.

I would enjoy hydroponics but  I have enough irons in the fire.

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In my life time of gardening, this year has been really bad.

I planted 21 corn seeds & they produced not a single cob of corn.

I still have 40 tomato plants, but I only have about 15 tomatoes to be harvested.

My cucumbers didn't do well at all.

The only thing that grew well this year was my long beans.

Another thing is that, l didn't see many bees this year at all.

So how well did your garden do this year?

 

My crop was about average, not great. I noticed the same thing about bees as well. Only seemed to see a few of them.

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Last year was a bust this seems to be mediocre to good I am going out now to pick blackberries and figs so far I have 3 gallons of both and the best year I got 5 to 7 gallons.  it looks like I may have about 7 gallons of grapes but that is with 3 extra 2 year old plants so it is not as good but in years to come as these plants mature I hope to get more.

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When i thought last years garden was bad.

This year everything is horrible so far.

I've kinda given up on my garden this year.

Plum tree is just about dead, so is the peach tree.

The cherry & pear trees are doing fine.

Weather wise in my area is terrible so far & half the year is just about to go by.

My food stores this fall will be feeling a higher cost that's for sure.

Not a happy camper when it comes to my garden this year.

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plums are one you need to keep planting from seed ad stagger over years as for no reason some just die their life span is 5 to 7 years it appears peaches need pruning smoking o keep off fungus and then a constant vigil against squirrels

I just keep propagating everything and keep it separated in corners so if one batch gets a problem I can either try to treat it and if that does not work I can burn them off and blackberries dont die from cutting or burning they do not like herbicide in strength. 

all I can say is try for winter garden crops send in your soil to your local farm bureau and see what if anything your soil needs for what your growing most times it is calcium and phosphorus potash magnesium I get mine from Epsom salt plain tums antacid is good quick calcium bone meal is for long term gardening is not for the meek or weak it is hard work and fickle weather not enough minerals wrong moon phase when planting change in jet stream brings in high winds that spread weeds or uncommon not local fungus insects or grass seeds and it's on like donkey kong one year we had a hail storm turned everything into a green ooze and killed cattle & horses busted fence post to the ground and beat the tin off part of the barn as well as made us re-roof the shingles on the house lucky the vehicles and tractors were under cover trees looked like winter set in but next year everything busted out like nothing happened in fact it seemed like everything had more foliage nature has its way another thing I always till the old greenery back in to the soil as soon as it looks like it is done fore before it dies off it is also good to have a couple of garden plots you need to let one go fallow every 7 years (Biblical)   lime is good incase your soil is to acidic your local ag extension can clue you in on anything you can explain I need to call mine as I can't raise cucumbers to save my life --- so far

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