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First, thanks to the Webmaster for designating this Forum.

 

Living in the country is different than living in town. My nearest neighbor is over a half mile away. The County Sheriff's office is 15 miles away. The nearest grocery store is 8 miles away.

 

Wonderful, right? Yes indeed it is. However, there are a few things to considder.

 

It takes at least 15 minutes for someone to be here if we call 911.

 

We don't just "run to the grocery store" whenever we are out of supplies.

 

If the electricity goes out, we are not the place where the repairs start.

 

If there is a snow storm, the gravel road that we live on is one of the last places plowed.

 

In short, living in the country and away from services and supplies requires more planning. We use driveway monitors to let us know if an uninvited vehicle is on our property. We buy enough groceries to limit trips to town to one per week. We have our own generators (both gas and solar) to keep the essentials running in case of an outage (also have 50 gal of gas stored for the generator). We have a long driveway that I have to plow/shovel if there is a snow storm. The point of this post is If you move to the country, plan on additional steps and plan on making a plan.

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The point of this post is If you move to the country, plan on additional steps and plan on making a plan.

 

When making the first post, my wife needed my assistance so had to get off line.

 

An example of a plan when living in the country. We have 2 monitors on our driveway (others at other locations on the property). One at the road end of the drive and one around 2/3 of the way toward the house end. They are set with different alert signals. If the road-end monitor signals, it could just be someone turning around (we get a lot of that - people getting as far into the country as our drive and deciding that they need to turn back). However, if the 2nd monitor sounds an alert and we are not expecting anyone, I head out the door to an open (and well lighted at night) area where I intercept whoever is there. That area is also around 30 yards from the house where, whenever this plan goes into effect, my wife is at a window covering me with a .240 cal rifle until we know what the threat level is. We know that law enforcement is at least 15 minutes away - so, for that first 15 min. we are on our own. Besides, in all of the excitement I might forgit the number for 911 (LOL) (that's supposed to be a joke).

 

Being on our own for the first 15 minutes is also true for any medical emergency so we have a well stocked first aid kit and Red Cross First Aid training - just incase we need it.

 

Living in the boondocks is wonderful - it just requires more planning. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm interested in hearing about what steps other 'Country Folk' are taking that exceed what is necessary for those who live in the city.

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LivingGray: although I live in a small city in central KY I do have a retreat (refuge) deep in the eastern hills of KY. Your use of two monitors caught my attention. Can you provide more details on them? What make/model do you use? What trips the monitors? Are they audible (beep?) or video? How do you power them -- AC or DC? What type of transmission lines do you use (I assume they are no wireless transmiters)? What's the distance from the monitors to the house where I guess the signal is received? Do you suffer signal loss or false alarms? What about maintentance? What happens when the power is lost? I assume you loose the capability to monitor. Sorry for all the questions but I am seriously considering upgrading my retreat with some sort of monitoring device and wanted an opinion or lessons learned from someone who has one. What would you do differently if you could? Thanks and fair winds.

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So very true living grey, i'm glad somebody brought this up. I was raised in the country but now live in town. Sometimes I day dream about moving back to the country but there are some things I would want to make sure I could afford to install and have before doing so. Everything has its pros and cons and this topic is sometimes overlooked.

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Your use of two monitors caught my attention. Can you provide more details on them? What make/model do you use? What trips the monitors? Are they audible (beep?) or video? How do you power them -- AC or DC? What type of transmission lines do you use (I assume they are no wireless transmiters)? What's the distance from the monitors to the house where I guess the signal is received? Do you suffer signal loss or false alarms? What about maintentance? What happens when the power is lost? I assume you loose the capability to monitor. What would you do differently if you could? Thanks and fair winds.

 

Capt. The driveway monitors are motion detectors. So that we do not get alerts from small critters, the device's are placed in trees about 6 ft off the ground (I have trimmed the branches so that the device has clear view of the area in front of it - it took some experimenting to find the right level). We do get some alerts from deer but they don't usually set off both monitors (would rather have an occasional false alert than to not know if a vehicle is in the driveway) - also, when the wind is very strong they can pick up movement from the device itself because the tree limb that it is on moves. To control how directional we want the device, we used black electrical tape to reduce the detection area (again, it took some amount of experimenting to find the right setting). We bought the devices at Harbor Freight. They run for about 6 months on two AA Batteries, and the signal strength is enough to be picked up around 400 feet away. When motion is detected, the sensor sets off an alarm in the house (again, battery powered) so they do work even when the power is out - and each sensor has a unique signal.

 

I also have 4 video cameras out doors that feed signals into a monitor and recroder inside the house. This part of the security system won't work when the power is out.

 

As for what I would do differently - when we purchased the video system (2 years ago) we spent just under $300. When we replace that system, we will spend the $$$ to get higher quality equipment.

 

System maintenance - each day, we get mail delivery. If there is no alert, we have to replace the batteries - when we replace one unit's batteries, we do both just to keep them running at full power.

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Hmmm, driveway monitors eh? LivingGray, another question. Is the reciever/alarm 120v or is it

also battery powered. I'm thinking, ( EWS here) "early warning system" not only for monitoring the drive

but could be picked up and moved to another location. Several of these together would work better

than Christmas bells on braided fishing line. lol I can feel some more research comin' on!! Good stuff

Gray......

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Is the reciever/alarm 120v or is it also battery powered.

 

It is also battery powered. At Harbor Freight they are item # 93068. Their range is advertised at 400 ft - I can't verify that distance. Most of mine are 200 to 300 ft and they do a good job of letting me know what's going on outdoors - in various locations around the property.

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Okay, so the transmitter and reciever are battery powered. SUPER! I'll be checking

on these. Good idea man! Any monitoring device is a plus. I've got an ADT system

in home. But nothing for the property. Thanks Gray, good idea there!

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Gray...I to live in the country on a semi-dirt road and my driveway is gravel and also a dead end...so I know when someone comes down my driveway i eaither know them or someone has taken a wrong turn and come down my drive way. For me it takes right at 20 minutes to get to the Super Wal Mart where we do most of out shopping for everything from grocies to ammo. The county I live in is one of the biggest counties in East Tennessee so it depends on where the county cops are at the time of need...it could take them as long as 30 minutes to get to me in case of an emergency.....as far as EMS I would guess maybe 10 to 15 minutes and the same for the fire department. I don't have any monitors post up and down my driveway one reason is I can see the main road from my house and can tell when someone is coming down my driveway......and like you when someone is coming down my drive way I will meet them before they have a chance to park and ..yes my wife also gives me cover with a Moslin Nagant 7.62x39 which is scoped and she will not miss if she ever has to take a shot. Also my dog (Grunt) is by my side when I meet the strange vehicle, she is a full blooded german shepard with her bloodline leading back to Germany as a Border Dog. When I do go outside I will also have a Remington R1 1911 45 on my side with 2 extra mags...I have an outbuilding/garage that I keep my BOV in along with extra gas and oil for my genators and also some other supplies.....we keep our BOB's in the leisure room under the computer center if SHTF and we have to bug out we can grab the bags and weapons go out the back the back door to the out building get in the CJ5 and head to the mountains to where I have a picked and prepped a hide position. If SHTF and we shelter in place we have stocked food, a fireplace, ammo, weapons and a emergency radio so we will can tell whats happening if anyone of the radio stations are broadcasting. Althrough there is things I'm wanting to do to help secure my house and outbuilding such as motion detectors and cameras...but my wife now has cancer and I have had to kinda cut back on buying things. But it sounds like we are basicially in tyhe same sisuation and reading your post gave me some good ideas for later on down the road.

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if you dont mind,i'd like to ask a couple of questions?have you ever walked real slow in front of the detectors?.(slow meaning 10 ft in 5min).if you do this please let me know.thanx

 

They are a motion detector - if you stand still in front of the detector if sounds once when you move into its field of observation and once when you exit that field. If standing in the detection field and repeatedly moving your hand it keeps beeping. The mail delivery vehicle often sets it off several times before exiting our driveway.

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blacjac

 

shoot it with a 22 cb and you do not have to worry about it or take out the lights if it activates a light

 

sneaking up on people does not work if they are prepared I have used motion sensors in remote locations

from lights so you think its a regular light and its not.

or the one you think is a sensor and it is but not for the light making the mistake that others are dumb

may make you feel superior until your caught by your own arrogance.

 

no real paranoid uses one system certain plants and tangle foot in conjunction with remote motion sensors

and siren and light systems as well as low lux cameras and your busted or blasted.

if it ain't your property stay out, especially in Texas..........

 

and those doggie doors hide mean turds that are not impressed by your stealth and with multiple animals on

your azz make sure you read the thread from nurse amy and dr bones on how to stitch yourself up.

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hi gray

i have tested this process with different motion detectors.i've been able to walk up to all that i've tried. i was just curious about that brand.

 

Bunker Hill Security is the brand name, I bought them at Harbor Freight. As long as I keep fresh batteries in them (changed every 6 months) they do an excellent job.

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blacjac

 

shoot it with a 22 cb and you do not have to worry about it or take out the lights if it activates a light

 

sneaking up on people does not work if they are prepared I have used motion sensors in remote locations

from lights so you think its a regular light and its not.

or the one you think is a sensor and it is but not for the light making the mistake that others are dumb

may make you feel superior until your caught by your own arrogance.

 

no real paranoid uses one system certain plants and tangle foot in conjunction with remote motion sensors

and siren and light systems as well as low lux cameras and your busted or blasted.

if it ain't your property stay out, especially in Texas..........

 

and those doggie doors hide mean turds that are not impressed by your stealth and with multiple animals on

your azz make sure you read the thread from nurse amy and dr bones on how to stitch yourself up.

 

snake i've been out of the army for 40 years.but when i was in .i've sneaked up on members of sf,rangers,force recon,snipers.tracked all them down at different times.even when they knew they were being tracked,and was set up for ambush.i was able to grab with hand before they knew we were there.if there is any mac-v-sog here, they should know who i'm talking about.

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snake i've been out of the army for 40 years.but when i was in .i've sneaked up on members of sf,rangers,force recon,snipers.tracked all them down at different times.even when they knew they were being tracked,and was set up for ambush.i was able to grab with hand before they knew we were there.if there is any mac-v-sog here, they should know who i'm talking about.

 

 

now thats interesting stuff right there

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