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Piers Morgan: dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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Piers Morgan: dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

If you want to understand what we are all facing and to give a CLEAR Argument against it,Please read this artical..

 

 

http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=26205

 

 

Example...

 

According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -

•a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%

•a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%

•family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

 

 

 

 

 

During the offense that brought those offenders to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun, and about 2%, a military-style semiautomatic gun.

 

 

 

 

 

This whole piece written by Mr. Morgan is centered on the use of semi-automatic weapons. So we are talking about 2% of felons using these types of guns. Two must be the magic number because only 2% of felons using a gun – get said gun, at a flea market or gun show. Talk about living on the margins? Maybe Mr. Morgan should spend some time in Switzerland where households pack fully automatic rifles and experience less crime than England, where he says there are only 35 deaths per year due to handguns.

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OK, guys, don't pick on ALL Brits - my god-children are Brits and their father had a CHL while in Texas and owned one or more guns while here and was a better long range shot than me! Problem is, just like our politicians and our employees of Pravda, their chattering classes and 'elites' are evil people who are trying to destroy their own countries for crass gain.

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I agree with you Capt.

"chattering classes and 'elites' are evil people who are trying to destroy their own countries for crass gain. "

 

I beleve that the Common Person in Britian Hates what is going on but cant do anything about it..

We dont need to be like them and find ourselfs "up against a wall".

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But I hope you all agree he has a right to say these things.... even if you don't agree with him. While I greatly disagree with his comments he has the right to say them. Lets not lose sight of the bigger picture.

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But I hope you all agree he has a right to say these things.... even if you don't agree with him. While I greatly disagree with his comments he has the right to say them. Lets not lose sight of the bigger picture.

 

Well, maybe. Since he is NOT a citizen I tend to think that advocating the violation of our Constitution and Rule of Law is at best poor form and at worse, and more likely, conspiracy to overthrow the US Government. If we was defending the Constitution, he'd be gone soon enough. A US citizen has the right to advocate that we alter our Constitution to eliminate the second amendment but not even a citizen is allowed to urge folks to violate the laws of the land.

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Well, maybe. Since he is NOT a citizen I tend to think that advocating the violation of our Constitution and Rule of Law is at best poor form and at worse, and more likely, conspiracy to overthrow the US Government. If we was defending the Constitution, he'd be gone soon enough. A US citizen has the right to advocate that we alter our Constitution to eliminate the second amendment but not even a citizen is allowed to urge folks to violate the laws of the land.

 

Off with his head then! His nationality has nothing to do with it. Standing on U.S. soil, he has all the rights of any citizen. Where does it say one can't urge others to violate the law? It seems to be ok when it is directed the other way by many.

 

Look, I don't like this nitwit one bit but he has the same right as all of us to say what he wants. Nothing he has spewed so far dictates over zealous reaction, imho.

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Standing on U.S. soil, he has all the rights of any citizen. Where does it say one can't urge others to violate the law?

Actually He does not He cannot vote He cannot purchase a firearm without State Dept. approval he is tachnically not able to move around this country without notifing INS first (wich yes is not enforced) and in all actuality there is no provision or treaty to extend any rights except Legal Protections to any FN (Foreign National) it is done as a simple courtesy nd it is just a courtesy, but remember this little remembered historical fact, this nation exiled all the supporters of the Crown after the Revolutionary War they were not forgiven and allowed to live happily ever after. Also conspiracy to commit a crime even if you are only advocating it is a crime with a punishment equal to the crime advocated in this case Treason punishable with Death by Hanging.

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no i agree with capt bart,He is not a US citizen therefor he is not afforded the same rights as we are so I don't think he has a right to dictate policy that only affects US citizens especially not in a public setting. regardless of which side he takes a stand on.

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I make a distinction between shooting the bull with your friends over an ice cold diet coke and using your position in the media to voice opinions. Anyone in that position should understand that they have special privilages and enormous respondsibilities that go with them. There should be accountability, not that there is, but there should be.

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Foreigners who legally enter the country do indeed have the legal rights afforded under the constitution which does not allow them to vote or run for office. The current exception is for a few clauses related to terrorism. You may want to read the following:

http://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1302&context=facpub

 

Warrior - not sure where you get your info related to moving around the country but that is not true except for diplomats from certain countries (like China, Russia, Cuba, etc). That is because those same countries restrict us the same way - believe me, I've been there. Otherwise, you get a visa to the U.S. and you can rent a car and drive from coast to coast. For example, if you are here on a student visa you can travel freely within the country.

 

Likewise, Wardog, how do you conjure up the idea that Morgan is able to "dictate policy?" He's nothing more than a talk show host- and a bad one at that.

 

If a foreigner has a green card they can legally buy weapons in most states as far as I know.

 

But let's get back to the root of the conversation. Mr. Morgan has the right to say the things he does. We may not like it but he does. To deny him that right puts us on a slippery slope I do not want to imagine.

 

Many folks reference the Second Amendment at the drop of a hat to cite their protection to bear arms. They shouldn't be hypocritical about the First Amendment right of free expression.

 

Hope you all have agreat weekend.

 

Jumbo

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"But let's get back to the root of the conversation. Mr. Morgan has the right to say the things he does. We may not like it but he does. To deny him that right puts us on a slippery slope I do not want to imagine."

 

He does what he wants..agreed..But I would like to export him for it..JMO we have enough Commies in the Media already!

Sorry "National Socialism"....

 

 

Its about "Accountability"...If you dont want any shit dont talk it..

JMO

Enough is enough...Its a bunch of Shit..Im not letting it go ...to many have kept there mouth shut and look where we are NOW..

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when someone has the ability to voice an opinion to a wide audience and when a good bit of that audience believes in what that speaker says then there lies the ability to dictate policy, he may not be able to vote but a good bit of his listening audience can.

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when someone has the ability to voice an opinion to a wide audience and when a good bit of that audience believes in what that speaker says then there lies the ability to dictate policy, he may not be able to vote but a good bit of his listening audience can.

 

With all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about. I hate to be so blunt but you are clueless as to the responsibilities of those who speak vs. those who listen. Anyone can spout garbage... it is not "policy". People can believe what they want. My God, please look at what you are writing.

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"But let's get back to the root of the conversation. Mr. Morgan has the right to say the things he does. We may not like it but he does. To deny him that right puts us on a slippery slope I do not want to imagine."

 

He does what he wants..agreed..But I would like to export him for it..JMO we have enough Commies in the Media already!

Sorry "National Socialism"....

 

 

Its about "Accountability"...If you dont want any shit dont talk it..

JMO

Enough is enough...Its a bunch of Shit..Im not letting it go ...to many have kept there mouth shut and look where we are NOW..

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Matt - Please re-read what you wrote above.... its incoherent to me. The guy has a right to say what he wants... the same as youy do. I don't like what he says but he has the right to say it.... If the shoe was on the other foot I'm sure you would feel the same way. Get a grip, please.

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"Get a grip, please. "

Jumbo..Im 59 years young and have watch this country go down the toilet because of People useing the right to speak what ever they want!

 

Thats fine speak,say what ever you want ...

But to "control" the Speech in such a way to "Control " the masse's and what they hear is what Im talking about...

 

"Yellow journalism"

 

Yellow journalism, or the yellow press, is a type of journalism that presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines to sell more newspapers. Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism.

 

Todays so called "News" people have been doing this for years and IM sick of hearing it!!!!!

 

It is now so EXTREAM that No one know's the Truth or is willing to tell it ...because of FEAR that they will be attacked in the NEWS!

 

IT IS WRONG!!

You get a GRIP on it...Hold on to what you value,because you are soon to loose it!!!!

JMO..Brother

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no i agree with capt bart,He is not a US citizen therefor he is not afforded the same rights as we are so I don't think he has a right to dictate policy that only affects US citizens especially not in a public setting. regardless of which side he takes a stand on.

 

whoa hold the horses remember this gitmo thing it seems that everyone is afforded the rights in fact we got a lawyer that wears a

 

scarf to not offend.

 

Now i agree with you and Capt Bart but it seems as if we have a problem the people that are not going to enforce this rule

 

are more powerful and are the law.

 

But as far as I am concerned send the mouthy dipstick back but like Cuba, Haiti and Mexico they do not want their troublemakers back either.

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With all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about. I hate to be so blunt but you are clueless as to the responsibilities of those who speak vs. those who listen. Anyone can spout garbage... it is not "policy". People can believe what they want. My God, please look at what you are writing.
i completely disagree, we are seeing before our very eyes the swaying of public voting by men such as this...

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With all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about. I hate to be so blunt but you are clueless as to the responsibilities of those who speak vs. those who listen. Anyone can spout garbage... it is not "policy". People can believe what they want. My God, please look at what you are writing.

 

and you have obviously skipped out on history classes. because when hitler spouted his garbage I guess nobody listened, when the communists spouted their garbage during the bolshevik revolution nobody listened, when pol pot, stalin, Jean Kambanda, and a good many other dictators and genocide authors spouted their garbage nobody listened. human history dictates that when people gain the public ear they can and have swayed people to their favor over and over again and they do it when tensions and emtions are high among the populace or at least a good section of it. Please don't tell me I'm clueless when you have no idea of history.

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and you have obviously skipped out on history classes. because when hitler spouted his garbage I guess nobody listened, when the communists spouted their garbage during the bolshevik revolution nobody listened, when pol pot, stalin, Jean Kambanda, and a good many other dictators and genocide authors spouted their garbage nobody listened. human history dictates that when people gain the public ear they can and have swayed people to their favor over and over again and they do it when tensions and emtions are high among the populace or at least a good section of it. Please don't tell me I'm clueless when you have no idea of history.

 

I rest my case.

 

Folks, seems I am in the wrong place here. Think I'll move along and observe for awhile.. Y'all take care.

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