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I posted this reply in response to a Yahoo news article: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-wants-gun-violence-measures-passed-2013-140306667--finance.html

 

Weapon bans are a fool's errand. I can't believe Americans are stupid enough to believe this nonsense. This is a topic that requires reason and deep thinking. You can't ban anything and decrease the crime surrounding it. If someone wants to shoot someone with a gun they're going to do it, and no amount of laws are going to change that. These mass shootings only occur in large groupings of unarmed people. You can't stop violence with policies particularly ill conceived policies. Further restricting firearms possession even more than it already is will do nothing but increase these heinous acts and crime all around. Australia readily admits that the sweeping weapons ban there was responsible for increased vicitimization just as this ridiculous Feinstein-Obama ploy will. The previous assault weapons ban in the U.S. had no impact on gun violence. Criminals still obtained guns and used them against innocent people. The same thing will continue to happen as the President and his minions strive to tame the questioning, independent nature of America. The only people a weapons ban will hurt are good people - the same good people who want a Republic based on the Constitution of the United States. I beseech those reading this to give thought to this matter. Research it yourself. Don't believe something just because someone in a purported leadership capacity is telling you, and surely don't believe the media as the popular news media only serves itself. Become a thorn in the side of these arrogant, self-serving politicians and prove you are not naive and foolish. Think for yourself, and do what is right. Get off the couch and take this matter head on. Americans, particularly the middle class, are on the way out. We are becoming powerless politically and enslaved by debt economically. The middle class lawfully and safely owns most of the firearms that will be banned, and we will be further vicitmized criminally than we already are. We will become helpless sheep in a land of wolves. Destroy this agenda.

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Amen to that. Bad people will always find ways to get guns. The only ones who pay the price for these types of bans is the innocent. Guess its a good thing my weapon of choice isn't an AR. I have doubts that the full ban that they are trying to pass will get through... but even half or less of the new legislation passing would have far reaching consequences.

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No I am not {whether or not I really am is of no consequence}

 

I just want you to figure it out now before you figure it out later no one is with you, your azz is in the breeze

 

officials are going to do whatever they figure on and do not give a tinkers damn what their constituency feels.

 

People say they are behind you and as soon as the heat is on you look around and tag your it.

 

Your like Diogenes looking for an honest man well don't count on finding any when you really need them.

 

Army 507,158 Navy 347,693 Air Force 347,352 Marines 179,762 Total DOD 1,381,965

 

Coast Guard 41,002 Total Armed Forces 1,422,967

 

Reserves 1,000,000 Paramilitary 53,000 Total for US Military 2,475,967

 

over 300 million less than 1 % and how many of them know the constitution or the bill of rights or any other law that

 

some order from a high ranking officer with good argument will not override common sense is not as common as you may believe.

 

when ever I ride I do not look back because regardless I am going and doing what I have made my mind to do.

 

It is only friendly advice but I have learned from experience that most people are cowards and some think they are

 

full of iron but it's turns to lead in their azz when the going gets tough.

 

I was rather impressed with the tea party it lasted longer than I thought it needs to rise to this opportunity as it is people as them

 

that will be under the wheel when it starts to turn.

 

If They think that they are not all in a data base they are forgetting the

 

facial recognition software, did you think they were using it on their friends LOL.

 

We know the opposition we know from history what will more than likely occur it will be for the historians and the winners

 

and the pencil necks to argue the P's & Q's and there will be much deliberation for years to come.

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Let's think logically here:

1) Sandy Hook nut bag took 26 innocent lives with a gun

2) 911 terrorist took 3000 thousand lives without firing a shot

 

Did we ban airplanes? No

Did we forbid Muslims from entering the country? No

 

So why all the outrage against guns? It is on the Liberal feel good but does no good agenda.

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The powers that be have been after our guns for a long time. They just like riding the wave when things like sandy hook happens. I'm a proud and responsible gun owner that would rather die then give up my god given rights to be free and enjoy life, live and let live i say...OT

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we may think logically but as you can see a knee jerk reaction from anti's is all you will ever get have you noticed no one

except our Texas governor made a positive statement and then Arizona went one better.

 

and now I hear f@ckin' crickets and silence where are all the supposed right wingers 2nd amendment foundation

and all the others texas law shield and many states have legal services for incidents involving a weapon but not a peep

and they are lawyers but they got there money fox news is pathetic all they do is parrot the left if i change channels between

cnn liftime network and fox its the same video same audio it is B.S. if I wanted to listen to media melodramatics and not facts like

the ones here that no one on FOX mentioned and to hell with bill O'riley he wants more checks more this more that

he is as ignorant as they come and no common sense.

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Snake, your words pissed me off! I am just being honest. You assume that most of the ‘brave’ people will crumble like a cheap suit once the human feces strike the rotating blades. I really wanted to let you have it with BOTH barrels… but sadly, I could not.

 

I could not defeat your accusation that Americans will succumb to the draconian rules and laws passed by our political representatives. Like you, I have reached the conclusion that the outrage displayed by most people is simply hot air and they are unwilling to defend their right with the lives. In the end, it is not you and your words that piss me off. It is the apathy of the Amerikan people and their willingness to behave as sheep. They no longer cherish liberty. They will not place themselves in harm’s way to defend their rights. They will fold like a cheap suit and that is disgusting. Sometimes the sheepdogs are wasting their time protecting the sheep. But Id’s rather die a free man than live as a slave.

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I understand your statement but now stick your head out the window and listen what so you hear????

 

NOTHING and you misunderstood there are about 6 million Brave people these numbers are garnished from

 

numerous sources and is actuality a on the high side and it fits with the amount of people in

early America that sided with Washington against British colonialism

 

you may be upset with me but you live in Massachusetts I could make a lot more money if I moved north but I would

rather not deal with the locals and it looks like your getting a new Kennedy in office how nice, that will work wonders for your

beliefs and rights John used to shoot sharks off his sail boat with an AR but the family does not think anyone but them has

the right or the sense to own even a BB gun.

TED was asked on the white house steps about his bodyguard being arrested with 3 guns and 144 rounds of ammo on him

and he stated he needed protection he had death threats the nimble lady reporter said but so do people outside the government

what about them? well I have never seen her again I guess she is selling amway or such because i bet her carer is shot in the azz.

 

let us look at a bit of history 18 kids were roasted alive people won't even do that to an animal, at Waco

a woman holding a baby was killed and her son a young teenager at ruby ridge after a grueling entrapment by our gov...

did you see that million man march all those people wanting the conviction of the guilty ones it was great wasn't it LOL.

It never happened, and most were promoted and the FBI did not issue a explanation or apology in fact the opposite.

 

 

Mexican gangs are killing and kidnapping people on the American side of the border NOTHING....

 

The list is so long that the thousand word limit of this thread won't contain it.

but in many posts I have listed the history of our country and did not embellish it.

 

excoastie regardless of what you have or may say let me state that I do respect you and do agree with 99% of your posts

but I only have the history so far of what has been done to our freedoms without any backlash from the public.

that is exactly why our government does not fear us and talks openly about confiscation {legalized theft}

and still sadly no million man march.

 

if you look at another post today about the zimmerman incident it had more news cycles and more politicians and people

threatening with a small group of panthers with shotguns, than any of the above mentioned events you see in my mind

when I look at these events I see it is OK for the FBI to incinerate innocent children and kill although misguided people

under the spell of a moron only the moron had a warrant no one else did.

so it is OK if our government kills people but not a crazy person because then we will send you all to your rooms without your guns

now that is so unfathomable in my mind it makes so little sense I cannot grasp it that there is not a up swell of decent.

 

do not get me wrong I was hoping to incite some folks to protest but as you can see it ain't working and because your mad

it makes me like you all the more I wish everyone was that pissed because maybe we would see that million man march

and pressure the powers that be to shut the f@uk up about gun control once and for all.

and if i were cussed by thousands yea millions I would feel even better because then the right note would have been struck.

 

but I already know most here because this site is just as much about patriotism as it is surviving and being prepared I do

know and understand that many of you will go down swinging but I don't want that I want a large non violent protest

and sit ins like the unions in Illinois and Michigan and let our feelings be known before people get hurt.

I know as you do if people start kicking in doors there are going to be problems very dire ones.

 

so respectfully excoastie I understand your post, if you would like to PM me you can at any time.

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Snake, your words pissed me off! I am just being honest. You assume that most of the ‘brave’ people will crumble like a cheap suit once the human feces strike the rotating blades. I really wanted to let you have it with BOTH barrels… but sadly, I could not.

 

I could not defeat your accusation that Americans will succumb to the draconian rules and laws passed by our political representatives. Like you, I have reached the conclusion that the outrage displayed by most people is simply hot air and they are unwilling to defend their right with the lives. In the end, it is not you and your words that piss me off. It is the apathy of the Amerikan people and their willingness to behave as sheep. They no longer cherish liberty. They will not place themselves in harm’s way to defend their rights. They will fold like a cheap suit and that is disgusting. Sometimes the sheepdogs are wasting their time protecting the sheep. But Id’s rather die a free man than live as a slave.

 

go ahead coastie! someone needs to let him know how it is ! his opinion is not the only one that matters, even though he seems to think so!

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Snake, you missed my point. Actually, I failed to explain my point. After reading your words, I WANTED to disagree with you and I WANTED to give you a piece of my mind. But I COULD NOT be upset with you because your words and your message was 100% accurate. I WANTED to disagree with you but couldn’t. You are right. And I can’t be pissed at you when you are right. So may anger is focused at those that are wrong. I am pissed at the apathetic Americans! The sheep and their keepers.

 

Teddy was an evil SOB! He got away with murder. He got away with sexual abuse of waitresses and other women unfortunate enough to cross paths with Teddy the Red-Nosed Senator.

 

Protest? How could I protest the truth? I can’t. I simply explain myself inadequately… a skill I have honed to a sharp point! I screw up a lot, especially when explaining my thoughts on Amerika, Amerikans, patriots, etc.

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Herein lies the problem. No one is doing anything. Plenty have thoughts in opposition to any form of weapons ban, but no one is rallying to make it happen. What is going on? Why are so many so silent? I don't know what else can be done. If nothing else, I want to go out kicking and screaming.

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Oh ya, when I disagree with you, you’ll know it. I am not shy and I know I can support my positions. But I think we share many values and principles. So disagreeing with you will only occur when discussing details.

 

Also, I live in MA because it makes my wife happy. It makes me unhappy. But my bride followed me all over the world while I was on active duty and has earned the right to be happy. And right now, MA makes her happy. ;)

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Oh ya, when I disagree with you, you’ll know it. I am not shy and I know I can support my positions. But I think we share many values and principles. So disagreeing with you will only occur when discussing details.

 

Also, I live in MA because it makes my wife happy. It makes me unhappy. But my bride followed me all over the world while I was on active duty and has earned the right to be happy. And right now, MA makes her happy. ;)

 

sorry that was a low blow and not my right to insinuate anything on or of a personal nature if it seemed that way forgive me.

and you must make your bride happy.

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Snake, snake, snake, again you have layed out the truth with all the elegance of field dressing a gut shot hog. Many of us have come to love that about you, but some seem to see it as while we all know we are living in a sh^7 sauna they don't like getting splashed in the face all the time.

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Snake, you missed my point. Actually, I failed to explain my point. After reading your words, I WANTED to disagree with you and I WANTED to give you a piece of my mind. But I COULD NOT be upset with you because your words and your message was 100% accurate. I WANTED to disagree with you but couldn’t. You are right. And I can’t be pissed at you when you are right. So may anger is focused at those that are wrong. I am pissed at the apathetic Americans! The sheep and their keepers.

 

Teddy was an evil SOB! He got away with murder. He got away with sexual abuse of waitresses and other women unfortunate enough to cross paths with Teddy the Red-Nosed Senator.

 

Protest? How could I protest the truth? I can’t. I simply explain myself inadequately… a skill I have honed to a sharp point! I screw up a lot, especially when explaining my thoughts on Amerika, Amerikans, patriots, etc.

 

holy crap I did not realize teddy was that far gone it is new to me but after you mentioned it it really did not surprise me

hey I have zinged a few people and I get your post and been on all sides of the same feelings it really hurts to think

after all the hard work and pain and suffering our families put into this country that some today just do not appreciate it

or so absorbed by other things.

 

I have watched these caught on camera interviews of people young and old and they ask really simple questions like who is the speaker of the house who was Washington you know stuff we all back when had to learn in school and the answers they get are funny but after I thought about it it was horrifying someone posted a link to a clip where a lady was asked where did her

welfare and food stamp money come from and she said and I quote. " obama has a stash" unquote

 

I thought I was going to jump through the screen and throttle that nut. where do these people come from but as someone else posted or it might be their signature it is not that stupid people are dangerous to us it is just there are so many of them or something to that effect.

 

no harm no foul your a great person as is I am sure 7thgroupdoc is I do try to stir the imagination but I do not want to

make anyone think I do not believe what they are saying or their intensity of their belief that is not my job but I hope

people don't stick out there necks too far because I have had my encounters as in loosing a job being called an extremist

or not living in reality and shove the petition back at me only to hear them cry about having to sign to buy ammo

{remember those days} it made me mad as hell I would think this is the same guy that refused to sign my petition.

funny isn't it.

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The biggest problem that I see for our side is that we have no leadership or statesman to rally around. By this I don't mean that we need a sheep herder...

 

Think in terms of the Roman fasces...

 

Three names on my short list, Romald Reagon, Charleston Heston, John Wayne.......to bad there's no one to take their place.for the life of me I can't think who could step up now to do the things they did, who do we have now.....Gary Sanise, Ted nugent, that guy from law and order who ran in 2008?

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Three names on my short list, Romald Reagon, Charleston Heston, John Wayne.......to bad there's no one to take their place.for the life of me I can't think who could step up now to do the things they did, who do we have now.....Gary Sanise, Ted nugent, that guy from law and order who ran in 2008?

 

We can not put ourself's in the same place again with a "Leader"..We have so called leaders now..fire them first and keep a rotation going ..new ones every time..untill they get it RIGHT!!

 

" Listen to ALL follow NONE"...

 

1...can be bought..15 have to be listened too...ONE VOICE...NOT one Leader....

Sorry about rant..

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