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Here's a thought experiment for you.

Pretend, for a minute or two, that you are in college.

In regards to everything you know today, and your personal beliefs about your ideal way to live,

what college courses do you find most important? In regards to finance, general knowledge, and survival.

 

In other words, if you could go back 10, 20, 30 years ago, and kick yourself in the ass for not studying a certain thing, what would that be?

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We had a fantastic geography department, and I took "environmental geography" (which was mostly about climate change and the way the earth changes over millions of years) instead of something useful like cartography. Can you imagine how much it would help to not only be thoroughly educated on reading maps, but also know how to CREATE them? Depending on what event triggers TEOTWAWKI, geography could go through radical changes, let alone the radical changes in population centers and travel routes that will follow. Minerology from the geology department would have also been a useful thing to learn.

 

Overall, I wish I had learned something practical and medical (EMT, nursing) instead of majoring in political science because, well, political science doesn't exactly do much except look good on a law school application. It would have been quite smart to learn human physiology instead of sociology, or even to have exchanged a traditional four-year university for study on herbalism and holistic medicine, for example.

 

And my other big regret is that I didn't take Spanish seriously, nor did I stick with it long enough to become proficient. It would sure be handy to be able to communicate easily in Spanish, especially in an emergency!

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I can communicate in Spanish and it ain't all that and a bag of chips {tortilla chips that is}

herbal medicine well the problem there is about 75% of the medicinal roots leaves mosses and extracts

are not from here during a prolonged incident your bag of tricks would shrink quite a bit.

Mineralogy is great but takes travel as not any one state has all the minerals but it is good to know.

now EMT special skills would be a great course it takes 1+ years and you do ride a longs and can get practical experience.

herbalism could still be used also there are many books and information for free so it is still viable.

 

everyone should be at least an EMT basic skill level

basic use of hand tools and safety

know basic construction

basic welding

auto maintenance and minor repair / trouble shooting

understand disinfecting & have a food handlers certificate

farming growing and understanding how to use an almanac and germination temps what are winter summer and fall gardens.

know how to cook from scratch basic stuff like rice baked potatoes simple cakes box items.

camping skills wild flora & fauna recognition fire safety survival & rescue fishing hunting basics map and compass course.

military structure recognition, marching group activities with Government bill of rights and our constitution.

rope work and knot tying

water safety swimming / life guard rescue skills

taking care of children the elderly and disabled

biking, driving a car and a moped or motorcycle if only a familiarization course.

firearms safety and shooting skills CMP anyone you do not have to agree with having one but you do need to know about them.

basic language skills in at least 2 languages of this list Chinese, French, Farsi, German, Italian, Japanese, Russian or Spanish.

chemistry

mathematics geometry and fractions could be taught in some of these as they do apply

geography

history

 

the problem is all this should be taught in school the languages in grammar school and over the years the rest as they are

responsible enough to do so.

people die every day because they cannot swim why not?

because no one can apply basic first aid

they are endangered due to ignorance of boating safety or having safety equipment before swimming boating or diving.

the rest of this list can be taught in all schools in one class and can do six in a year kids are not dumb they are ignorant

because they have not been taught them it takes less than a week to teach how to nail measure and cut wood in a month

they can do most any box furniture project or do a custom closet.

 

I always hear of how we need to raise a child's self esteem YOU CANNOT DO THAT they have to by accomplishing goals

It is like sex if you show it the ones who have never had that experience have no concept of the reality of it or the

unexpected consequences or interpersonal relationship entanglements I alway thought you should show for sex education

you should show a great porn video then Looking for Mr. good bar and then fatal attraction and War of the roses then explain sex is not simple people are complicated and some are crazy and you better use your real brain and be mature enough to deal

with the mental moral and psychological issues. and sex has repercussions.

 

we waste time with crap in school children are a sponge they can learn much more as children than as teen agers

 

and music if nothing else they should be able to play a few simple tunes on a recorder {flute} not everyone is able but hey

try it if you excel go for it

and it would not hurt if they could know and recognize the wonders of the world and some art works like the thinker

the Mona Lisa and visit a museum at least once a year and have a test on what the saw and did.

simple sports for coordination hand and eye and exercise.

 

it would not hurt to teach them how to wear a hat and pants and coordinate colors use a washing machine and dryer

and maybe an iron.

 

OC as for you zero in on your ONE idea that can make you a living and live it breath it immerse yourself in it

know every facet all the history be able to name drop and understand the science behind it.

that is how you attract investors or potential clients just in your own mind become more that just you.

Too much of the new stuff is contorted in mysticism a friend was a masseuse and got into raki or how ever you spell it

and her clients shrunk due to her thought it was better but her clients did not agree she had been influenced by her mentor.

She was also a practitioner of herbalism and was very knowledgeable and helped people she made it a pseudo religion

and that hurt her only her eccentric clients stayed with her.

 

just a group of random thoughts I had considered training children for money I am not independently wealthy,

basic skills have a list and a target of what they can accomplish at the end of your training so parents have confidence

and chose you to train them in other skills.

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Machinist...like my Father.He also was a farmer.

 

The older I get the more I understand my father,I love making things and have used wood for that "Creative spot"in my soul..

I would like the time to read more,classic thing's.learn more about the working of the "Mind".

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Here's a thought experiment for you.

Pretend, for a minute or two, that you are in college.

In regards to everything you know today, and your personal beliefs about your ideal way to live,

what college courses do you find most important? In regards to finance, general knowledge, and survival.

 

In other words, if you could go back 10, 20, 30 years ago, and kick yourself in the ass for not studying a certain thing, what would that be?

 

College study in the context of Prep and SHTF ?

To be proficient in pretty much any 'trade skill', and knowing how to capitolize on that skill post-SHTF would be useful.

Trade skills: Metal work, Electrician, auto/diesel mechanic etc. Pretty much anything now days that has a 'Union' attached to it.

 

i do all kinda of IT technical stuff. Even had my own lil business for a short while. But computers are seen as more of an unneccesary luxury item in tough financial times. Not like a fridg. you need that.. but not really a PC. (unless ur like me.. i do everything on pc, i dont watch tv.) Anyway.. my point is that I know residential IT work will not be in high demand. So i spend alot of time honing the electrician skills and know how. And still use AutoCAD from my architecture days.

 

An MBA may be nice and all. An MBA holder probably makes more $$$ than me. But that MBA and such related classes wont help at all post-SHTF.

 

My brother has a Masters Metallurgy and works for one of those companies that produces the silicon substrates for computer chips and solar panels and such. Chemistry was his thing in high School, while i initially went architecture.

 

However i dont think you should plan your life (what to take in college) around SHTF. you dont have to go to college to learn skills that will help post-SHTF. Go to college to have a career, but if it help post-SHTF, so be it.

 

Anything Medical, Law Enforcement, Trade Skills just to name a few

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Gotta agree with Navy.

 

In post-SHTF you would be better off as a generalist in various building trades and crafts. Some of the exceptions that I can see are the medical field; EMT, military medics, doctors, surgeons, dentists.

 

Knowing how to make beer and hard liquors will also be a plus.

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Gotta agree with Navy.

 

In post-SHTF you would be better off as a generalist in various building trades and crafts. Some of the exceptions that I can see are the medical field; EMT, military medics, doctors, surgeons, dentists.

 

Knowing how to make beer and hard liquors will also be a plus.

 

 

 

I TOTALLY AGREE....................Med's..............liquor.............things others CANT do or make..

jmo

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I want to be a community organizer .... don't be a hater it's just a thought

 

 

Snake, as long as you use your powers for good… and not evil…:eek:

 

I’d be a gunsmith with the ability to work all kinds of metalwork.

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Fascinating thoughts. I've always said I wouldn't do anything different as I basically like the way my life turned out. With that as a given I'm surprised at what has been important and what hasn't. Although I've studied quite a bit of quantum mechanics in several decades I've never found a quantum that I needed to repair!:rolleyes:

 

I needed this humanities course to complete my degree program so I took a philosophy course offering in Logic. Symbolic logic is a study of how to think and of the fallacies people use. Fascinating course and more useful than I could have ever imagined. The Artillery School at Ft. Sill taught me to be a surveyor along with land navigation and survival skills. I love physics and astronomy but from a survivalist point of view a bit more geology and chemistry might have been in order.

 

The good news is that you don't need a diploma to be educated. Read like they did in the 1800's, read the good stuff. With the internet and Kindles and $.99 books it is amazing what is available. Right now I'm looking at the pre-Indian history of the Americas. The 'old ones' can teach us a very great deal. I'm studying the flora and fauna of my area. I was always jealous of the 'Renaissance Man' who could do almost everything and was knowledgeable in most areas. Learning to be that kind of an individual is what makes an 'education'. The advantage of college is that it exposes you to areas you might not otherwise investigate.

 

As to degrees for survival friendly jobs, I'd look at jobs that allowed me to be outside a great deal. Park work, field biology, field geology, agricultural fields, etc. are places where you can learn to cooperate with nature rather than trying to work against natural law. (FYI - you always loose that particular conflict.) No degree is perfect but some are less valuable than others. For survival purposes, History is better than English lit, geography is better than accounting, poly sci is not nearly as good as anthropology, etc.

 

You don't NEED college but you can take advantage of it if it is available. No one should be satisfied to be uneducated and with modern technology it isn't necessary. Ever since the printing press and now the internet, education is available to ANYONE who is willing to have an open mind.

 

Just my not so humble opinion.

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...You don't NEED college but you can take advantage of it if it is available. No one should be satisfied to be uneducated and with modern technology it isn't necessary. Ever since the printing press and now the internet, education is available to ANYONE who is willing to have an open mind.

 

Just my not so humble opinion.

 

As always, great points, Capt Bart! It's also why a college degree does not necessarily indicate that someone is well-educated. There are people who go through college and just check things off to get a degree, as opposed to immersing themselves in subjects and thoroughly learning. And I'd like to add that some of the smartest, most competent people I know don't have degrees - but they do have common sense (which is more valuable than just about anything) and have spent a lot of time doing hands-on learning in a few areas of expertise. One of my cousins barely got through high school - he hated being stuck indoors - but he's a logger and that guy could survive anything because he knows the woods like nobody else, has an uncanny sense of direction and spatial relationships, and can fix or build just about any kind of machine or building you can imagine. He also loves growing things and raising animals, and his two sons are learning all of this stuff from him.

 

I'd like to add that while I do wish I had pursued other educational opportunities, I'm not unhappy that I got the education I did. Political Science isn't in the least survival-helpful, but actually could be useful after initial crises are over because politics really is about determining how decision-making and resources are distributed. For a course of study, it was a great way to be exposed to history, philosophy, and economics. I've been exposed to ethics, logic, religion, US history, and more.

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A side note on what Capt said Google held a contest a while back offering a few large chunks of money to innovative projects. One of the winners is http://www.khanacademy.org/ who's mission is to make quality education available for free to anyone. They wont give you a degree but lectures (At least the calculus ones I watched) are very high quality and easy to understand.

 

There are also 575 online courses offered for free from major universities here: http://www.openculture.com/freeonlinecourses

 

And I love the TED series: http://www.ted.com/

 

A similar thing from the UK is the Do Lectures: http://dolectures.com/

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OC,

Agreed. NO degree is wasted or useless, well unless it is some of the "PC" nonsense; I have seen a few that had me scratching my head but ..... The formal education experience is like everything else, an experience and all experience can be useful.

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