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http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/13/privatized-corporations-loot-government-funds-with-police-state-contraptions/

 

Ok, my opinion of the overall site, intelhub.com, is they are definitely anti-Israel, pro-muslim (in ways) and seem to be definitely anti-capitalist. That said, they do offer another perspective on current events and once in awhile, offer an independent article. That being said, here is what I gathered from the article and was wondering what others thought...

 

I agree that SWAT teams need assets outside of the normal "police issue", after all, their name is Special Weapons And Tactics. Do I think every small town and/or county needs an uparmored vehicle that has been "battle proven"? Not really and the argument of they need these to dispatch medics in an emergency just doesn't hold water with me. I may be too calloused of such blatant lies and misrepresentations from everything that hinders our freedoms being "for the children". Do I think cities like NY, Chicago, LA, etc could have a legitimate need for something like this? Yes, only because they deal with a larger group of criminals and are more likely to be a target of our enemies who do not wear a uniform but practice combat; terrorists.

I do not see why a small town, county or even a small city would need these. I see these as being more necessary to deploy along our southern border (maybe we wouldn't have to worry about agents being killed by small arms holder and company sends south). I can see some pros with this being in LEO operations, but I see many more cons, especially with the way things have been going with regards to our Liberties and Freedoms.

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i think the problem has two sides one the police are getting way to military like and two they have too at the same time becuase of the times were living in. so were back to the same old saying they are damned if they do and damned if the dont.

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Wally, I agree to a point and I am a major supporter of LEO (alot of family in the field). I'm just NOT liking that they are getting vehicles that are tested to stop 50 BMG rounds (I know the cartels and gangs are getting them) and are being given the M60s from the military arsenal as they are replaced with the M240B. The biggest flag I got was the using the vehicles to deliver medics in an emergency. If they would have said they needed it to combat gangs and other criminals with heavy firepower, I wouldn't have taken such a negative notice. I just find that when they start spinning the reason why they need it, there is usually an ulterior motive they don't want the general public to know.

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Wally, I agree to a point and I am a major supporter of LEO (alot of family in the field). I'm just NOT liking that they are getting vehicles that are tested to stop 50 BMG rounds (I know the cartels and gangs are getting them) and are being given the M60s from the military arsenal as they are replaced with the M240B. The biggest flag I got was the using the vehicles to deliver medics in an emergency. If they would have said they needed it to combat gangs and other criminals with heavy firepower, I wouldn't have taken such a negative notice. I just find that when they start spinning the reason why they need it, there is usually an ulterior motive they don't want the general public to know.

 

Agreed, sir. The medics won't go in until the scene is secured. We don't want the medics shot while treating injured so the "deliver medics" doesn't hold with me either. When the government feels the need to lie about their motives, be afraid! Be very, very afraid!

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Agreed Capt. Like alot of things, even if the "city logistics" representative is just inept at figuring a way to get the council to vote for an expense, perception is everything. They use "perception" to showcase preppers/survivalists in a bad light, or even the "assault weapons" and then expect People to believe anything they say, regardless of actual facts or knowing the "playbook" as with the medics.

I'll Pray it's just another inept official, but with the way they are trying to take away our Rights....

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3 weeks..thats all Im saying..

 

Realy is there such a great need/ Dont think so.. Command and control will be IN the vehicles not the men/women that may need it..

 

Talk about getting out of dodge!

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Having spent some time in soCalifornia law enforcement-before finally getting smart, FEW agencies can afford a full time swat or srt team. It is far better I believe, to have multiple officers/deputies assigned to patrol duties, in a county-wide area, cross trained as SWAT or SRT members. That way, you always have a platoon or squad available, SHOULD the need arise.

I am in favor of having a number of patrol officers cross-trained innSRT/SWAT tactics, so that they could be first responders to barricaded/hostage situations. Armored up vehicle.es I believe make good sense for HIGH risk warrant service and other situations like active shooters. I am not in favor of law enforcement being kitted put in paramilitary uniforms and fadt-mover gear. I've not seen that it is TRULY necessary in most applications and areas.

Tacti-Cool, it may well be, but knowing the ground you fight on, is a whole lot better.(speaking for smaller less densely populated areas) Just my highly subjective opinion is all. I am now a "has-been" so what DO I know anyway?

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Malcolm, In the area I am from, rural Indiana, the Sherrif's deputies who are part of the SRT/SWAT teams are regular patrol officers first and then "suit up" if a situation arises. I think it offers a broader ability, especially to the smaller departments, as they do not have to wait for the team to assemble and then move to the incident, but have the more specialized officers possibly arriving first on scene to assess the situation and can already be gathering valuable intel and able to see something to help plan or in place to immediately respond if need be. Even 1 or 2 officers with more training in high risk operations can be an effective tool for an active shooter or be able to respond to a hostage situation before they get fully barricaded.

If you left LEO, we as a Nation lost a valuable thinker in our defense.

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