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I have saved up some jinga. I figured I would by a new handgun; but Iam trying to decide on a Glock or a Smith & Wesson M&P. Mind you Iam looking at 9mm (not interested in any other caliber just to cover it). Looking for some opinions.

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Im not gonna give you the lame "try one out and see what feels best" reply....

 

Get the GLOCK. The M&Ps are fine pistols too. But...the Glock is like the Harley Davidson of polymer framed pistols. Huge aftermarket for accessories. Glocks are proven over and over. The Glock 19 is the best glock IMO. The Glock factory mags are cheap and plentiful. I find them everyday for under $20. And they are fantastic reliable magazines too.

 

Get the GLOCK 19

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how is that a lame reply? what pistol works for you may not work for another person, I have taken out enough people to know that there are calibers and models that work better for some people that doesn't for others. I personally think a Glock 30 is better than a Glock 19. so with your logic i think you should drop the 19 and get a 30 as it is a better conceal pistol with a larger caliber.

 

its not a lame reply to make sure somebody gets a pistol they are comfortable with so they will be confident enough to shoot it accurately if and when a time comes that it may save their lives.

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Wardog,

don't worry ... droptrd was picking on me I think. That is my usual first comment. Droptrd, that is STILL a good suggestion!:P

 

OK, having said that, you should also consider other issues. One of my firm rules is that ALL of my immediate action weapons must function the same way. For example, I like the Ruger "P" series autos but the safety on them works opposite from the safety on all my other guns. The Ruger is flip up to fire; the Colt is flip down. Bad mistake at oh-dark-thirty if I get it wrong so I don't own a Ruger "P" series. Smith makes solid firearms but I've found that they are very proud of their brand and so are a tad pricey for my blood. They shoot well but not better and are not worth the large price difference in my, admittedly limited, experience.

 

There are folks out there (Kel Tec for one) who make pistol caliber carbines that use the Glock magazine. A big plus if you see one of those in your future. Glock also has a complete line in each caliber from full size to deep cover (micros) that all function alike and except for the smallest, use the same magazine.

 

I've only fired a Glock in .40 (a Glock 22 I think??) and was pleasantly surprised at how well it shot and how pleasant if felt in my hand and in use.

 

I guess my advice would be to look at future as well as current needs, try both, and see what fits both your pocketbook and your hand. I'm a 1911 bigot but the Glocks are good weapons. They had some early teething troubles but those seem to be fixed. Buy the Glock and you may be locked into the Glock line for the foreseeable future but that is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

Just the not so humble opinion of a 1911, .45 bigot.

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I wanted a Glock when they first came out. Then I shot one, and another, and another. I couldn't hit the broad side of my ex-wife's ass with one. I like the 1911 but didn't want one of those. I stumbled across the EAA Witness and it fits my hand perfect and I have yet to miss what I'm aiming at with it. It was also only $300 which the others weren't! Look around for what works, not what's cool or what looks good.. Uh Oh, there's that standard answer. Sorry...

 

I STILL don't understand the concept of the Glock "safety" being on the trigger though. How is it a safety if it's ON the trigger?

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that safety was intended if the weapon was dropped or handled in some other fashion that it would not fire. whereas they saw that if you finger was on the trigger then you were actually meaning to fire it. is it the best method? not my place to say however somehow the glock has not only prevailed in the semi-auto pistol world but was the trend setter for all the others who followed suit with its high cap mags, polymer light weight design, simple functionality, and durability. Im not a a brand snob by any means, I love 1911s, I love glocks, as well as Sigs, H&K, and springfield XD pistols, i own at least one of each and im proficient on all of them. so im not going to sell one brand over another but glock was the first.

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Scout, I went with the S&W M&P over the Glock. I went to the gun shop to buy a Glock. The only reason I went with S&W was because the Glock didn’t feel comfortable in my hand. I can’t explain it. It just felt strange. The M&P felt better so I bought it. It hasn’t let me down yet. I got a trigger job done because it is a Massachusetts pistol and we have weird rules behind socialist lines.

 

I realize that saying’ try it’ seems lame, but that’s what I did and it worked. I still want a Glock and someday, I’ll get rid of one gun and trade it for a Glock and see how it works. Ask your friends if they have one so you can compare.

 

Also, not all S&W fit me properly so holding a similar pistol might not give you good results. I had a 44 Magnum with which I could not hit the broad side of a barn and I had a 357 that was excellent. They both live with my brother now. I like trading guns. I got back a Tokarev TT-33 and a Dragunov. I think we bled equally.

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In real life its not a "lame reply". but on an internet forum?

 

"what do you guys think of this?" "Try it out and see if you like it"

"What about these two?" "try it out and see what one you like best"

 

doesnt leave much to talk about:cool: Meant no offense

 

Get the Glock!

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I STILL don't understand the concept of the Glock "safety" being on the trigger though. How is it a safety if it's ON the trigger?

 

that safety was intended if the weapon was dropped or handled in some other fashion that it would not fire. whereas they saw that if you finger was on the trigger then you were actually meaning to fire it.

 

that's what I mean though. I always wondered how does it protect you if something hits the trigger (and the safety) as you're reholstering it or something hits it? At least with a safety like my Witness or a 1911, it's not right there to be hit with the trigger. It's just one of those things that I have no concept of and can't wrap my mind around the reasoning. if it didn't have a safety and you hit the trigger, it fires. On a Glock, if you hit the trigger which has the safety on it, it fires..See where I'm all twisted?

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Drop, I agreed with you! No offense taken. It is kind of lame to tell someone to just ‘try it’. It’s the easy answer. In reality, each of us is different so each handgun fits us each differently. But even if it seems to fit our hands properly, shooting each is the best way to determine the one we need.

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I STILL don't understand the concept of the Glock "safety" being on the trigger though. How is it a safety if it's ON the trigger?

 

that safety was intended if the weapon was dropped or handled in some other fashion that it would not fire. whereas they saw that if you finger was on the trigger then you were actually meaning to fire it.

 

that's what I mean though. I always wondered how does it protect you if something hits the trigger (and the safety) as you're reholstering it or something hits it? At least with a safety like my Witness or a 1911, it's not right there to be hit with the trigger. It's just one of those things that I have no concept of and can't wrap my mind around the reasoning. if it didn't have a safety and you hit the trigger, it fires. On a Glock, if you hit the trigger which has the safety on it, it fires..See where I'm all twisted?

Hossfly,

think of it in the same vein as Ruger's transfer bar. If the trigger is NOT pulled, it won't go bang. In many guns we face the same problem. The dropped gun causes a discharge. In some systems, Sig's for example, and most DA/SA or DA only pistols there is no safety other that the long DA pull. That is the same as for revolvers. I carry my 1911 'locked and cocked' with the safety on; I would NEVER carry a Sig locked and cocked. With no safety the SA pull is way too sensitive for safe carry. That is why they have a 'de-cock' lever.

 

I'm not sure whether the Glocks are DA or SA, good pull and fun to shoot but like in a Sig, I am extremely careful about holstering. The Glock system has the advantage of not needing to include a safety in your prep to fire. It has the disadvantage of requiring more care during certain handling drills.

 

I don't consider the Glock safety a 'traditional' safety but I also do not think I would disqualify the firearm for just this reason.

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OK, I will add more confusion to the matter, I like them BOTH, caveat, I like the M&P Compact better than the standard size.

Overall, the Glock 19 IS hard to beat. I also love my 1911 pistols, but I LOVE the high capacity .45s in Glock and by Springfield XD, NOT the XDM! I don't see that their price point justifies what you allegedly "get" in return, and Yes I have fired the XDM extensively as well. You will not go wrong with the Glocks, M&P line, or the Springfield XD. I now own at least one of each "brand".

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Ok so I have to touch on this I have owned several pistols now, torus, beretta, an m&p, a h&k, RR 1911 and a glock 35. I ended up getting rid of everything but the 1911 and the glock 35 I have to say that the glock 35 is the most accurate pistol I have ever shot. I would highly recommend the 35 however it's a 40 cal but I will not ever own a 9mm again IMO the only up side to a 9mm is the ammo is every where and cheap but ballistics wise it just can't keep up with the .40. the 35 has a light recoil not bad at all I am not a very big guy about 5 10 and 150 lbs so a polymer framed 45 was too much for me. I LOVE my 35, I will soon be getting a after market barrel for it not that it needs it but just for fun.

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Ok so I have to touch on this I have owned several pistols now, torus, beretta, an m&p, a h&k, RR 1911 and a glock 35. I ended up getting rid of everything but the 1911 and the glock 35 I have to say that the glock 35 is the most accurate pistol I have ever shot. I would highly recommend the 35 however it's a 40 cal but I will not ever own a 9mm again IMO the only up side to a 9mm is the ammo is every where and cheap but ballistics wise it just can't keep up with the .40. the 35 has a light recoil not bad at all I am not a very big guy about 5 10 and 150 lbs so a polymer framed 45 was too much for me. I LOVE my 35, I will soon be getting a after market barrel for it not that it needs it but just for fun.

 

Thanks for the input. I'm a 1911 bigot but the Glock 22 (.40 cal) that I shot was a fun, accurate gun. Kind of a surprise that I enjoyed it so much. I'm still a 1911 bigot (one worked when it HAD to work - I'd have to find out about anything else) but I have nothing bad to say about Glocks. Not my favorite but not bad.

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Never owned a Glock (hate the safety on the trigger, and no external hammer). Lot of the guys I run with carry em.

 

They're kinda like the old Chevys...not much to look at but they're reliable and it'll get the job done.

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I wanted a Glock when they first came out. Then I shot one, and another, and another. I couldn't hit the broad side of my ex-wife's ass with one.

 

Hoss - Just read that... now that's funny! Reminds me of the saying, "Couldn't hit a bull's ass with a bass fiddle." Anyway, I'm partial to the Glock and own two models, one for EDC. Accurate shooter, easily disassembled and reassembled for cleaning. I've read stories of thousands of rounds being sent through Glocks with no cleaning and the gun continues to reliably fire accurately. That means alot to me. If folks can't handle the lack of a "traditional" manual safety then perhaps its not the right handgun for you. Weighing everything I chose it for me.

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I carried a Glock 23 for the last 15 years or so of my law enforcement carrer and liked it so much that I bought it from my department when I retired. Now I love my 45s (Para Ordinance, Charles Daly and Springfield XD) but the 23 is the most comfortable EDC and I shoot better with it than any of my others.

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Well decision time has come and gone. I have shot both the Glock and the M&P. I have went with the Glock 19 Gen.4; it fit better in my hand and I also shot better with it . I have already put 200rds. through it. There is only one problem; the wife wants one now and she keeps taking mine to shoot it.

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Malcolm,

I agree completely.

 

WV,

I'm afraid you misspoke. Your lady HAS one now; lets us know when you get YOUR Glock!;)

After 43 years of marriage I assure it is true; If the mamma ain't happy, ain't no one happy and if she LIKES the Glock, she's happy it's hers.:P

 

I'm glad you found a weapon you both like to use; it does make ammo and supplies easier. Plus you get a leg up on a pistol carbine if you look at the Kel Tec carbines that use your Glock's magazines.

 

Good choice, sir.

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I have a Glock 21 as my service weapon, but I also have a Smith & Wesson m&p 9mm that I really enjoy, the M&p has ajustable back straps that I can fit to my wife's hand if needed....ammo is much cheaper with the 9mm.....but like everyone says try them both it's all personal preference......good luck with your choice

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Recently took a shooting course. There were two people with M&Ps and a berreta, an XD and the rest were glocks (14 students). The two M&Ps had several mis-feeds, ejection fails and mags not feeding problems. It was an indoor range so we all were running the exact same brand and type ammo (frangible, 125 gr., .40 cal). Seriously, those two had continuous issues of gun fails, except for one bad primer in another gun. I'll not be betting my life on a M&P. JMHO.

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