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Try assembling your first bag and then test it out. Spend some time in the woods using your gear, hiking with it, spend a few nights out under the stars so to speak. See what works and what doesnt. Then see what you needed but didnt have with you. You'll find out that you need less of what you thought and more of what you didnt (if that makes sense). I would imagine that youll figure out fairly quickly whether or not you need a second bag.

 

Also keep in mind that in a bug out scenario you will be moving with all that gear, possibly on foot for all or either some of your "bug out". How fast will you need to go? Depending on the situation possibly faster than 2 bags will allow.

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We have an acronym in the military that we apply to almost everything we do. It has also made its way into my daily civilian life as well. METT-TC

 

M= mission

E= enemy

T= terrain

T= time

T= troops

C= civilians (on the battlefield)

 

When planning something/anything, what is your mission, what are you trying to accomplish and where are you going?

 

who/what is the enemy (this can include more than just people, ie weather, terrain, time...)?

 

what is the terrain like in the area that you will be operating in (this is more than just what the ground looks like. the vegetation, bodies of water, populated areas and their impact on your mission both negatively and positively, so on and so forth)?

 

what kind of timeline are you working with (for food and water purposes and also travel times from point A to point B and in between....)?

 

how many troops do you have with you ( bugging out by your self?) and how many troops does the enemy have (this would really depend on why your bugging out i guess)?

 

how many civilians are on the battlefield (how many might you come across on your route to your BOL, how might they effect your mission both positively and negatively?)?

 

these are a few examples of many many considerations I used when I planned my BOB's, my BOL's, and the different routes to my BOL's. It might seem a lot to think of at first but when you get down to doing it its a fun challenge I find. My plans are always being refined and changed. Hopefully I havent come across as a know it all. I truly dont want to offend anyone. This is just what I have found helpfull and want to pass it along. Good luck with your planning.

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Stick, good explanation. Another "table" you can incorporate from the military is the TO&E (Table Organization & Equipment). The Organization is normally the personnel that will fill the needed MOS's (Military Occupational Speciality or Rates in the Navy.... civilian=jobs), but for a Prepper or group of Preppers, list the needed skills, i.e., blacksmith, gardener, hunter/trapper, plant forager, medical, etc. Everyone must know how and be proficient, but having People highly knowledgeable can be a plus. Then you list the equipment each skill set will need and work on those items. This is for a longer term build up of your gear unless you win the lottery for a single purchase...lol.

The People on this site have so much experience and knowledge to offer to help you (or anyone else) develope a plan that works for you and your family/group. Remember your OPSEC and respect other's OPSEC during your questions, but ask all the questions you want; we will be as helpful as possible.

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Panda, don't break your OPSEC. Everyone on the forum is willing to help but you should keep definitive plans secure.... even from us.

As for, "not being the best at prepping yet"... none of us are. Prepping is a marathon event that even goes longer than the 26 miles. It's a lifetime event that you just keep adjusting the gear and plans as you change locations, threats change, or even home life changes (we must add gear if we add members to the family). I can't speak for everyone but I feel I am still a "rookie" in my preps, but I am confidant I can survive whatever comes my way. I am always looking for new items to add or something that is lighter, stronger and replaces older gear. My kit has changed from what I needed to survive a wilderness accident while pursuing game or fish, to prepping for tours in a combat zone, now I look at what I need for my family's survival if a depression hits, or if we are travelling and terrorists hit, plus whatever mother nature can throw at us. Locale and current events will always cause some modifications to your kit, just make sure you have the basics covered (shelter, water, food) and skills are more vital than gear IMO. It doesn't cost anything but time to learn a new skill, so the library is your friend. Study and then practice so you have that skill and then always continue the practice to maintain it.

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There are certainly many lighter weight, brighter flashlights to choose from such as those using CR123 batteries, and you may want to consider other water purification methods. Additionally, your medical kit is a bit lacking in all practical purposes. You may need some type of medical aid that doesn't involve cracking open the tactical GSW kit or trying to use a venom extractor which aren't really useful. Upper respiratory problems, for example, are among the leading causes of sickness, and if the stats are still correct diarrhea is one of the biggest killers on the planet so there are a couple of pointers. How long do you plan to be gone and where are you going? That'll probably influence your hygiene and clothing selection. Steel toed boots aren't the best for walking long distances. I feel critical here, but you're obviously off to a start. Get online, use some Goodle-foo, and you'll find what's right for you. Good rhyme there ;)

 

I've personally shaken the idea of wilderness survival BOBs because although cool in thought the contents will be short lived. I have more of an urban EDC bag/GHB (that could double as a BOB) because, at all costs, I'm going home. Frankly, if I bug out it'll only be for a very limited period such as with a chemical spill nearby. If I have to leave home because it's to the point my home is destroyed in some apocalypse and there'll be no insurance to ever cover it and remunerate me so that I may start anew in my own personal paradise then the heck with it. Of course I'm also childless. A true bug out to me involves taking documents, files, and certain other items not really conducive to stashing away in a BOB indefinitely although I include a flash drive of a variety of scanned documents in my EDC/GHB. I'm putting together a preliminary evacuation list to remind me, quite concisely, of what to remember to take and do before I go.

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Bag Or Backpack

• Phoenix Patrol Pack

Food And Water

• 5 days’ worth of food/Freeze dried(per Person)

• 5 days’ worth of water(per Person)

• Bleach(water purification)

• Metal Canteen

• Medium Sized bowl

• SE KC5006S 4-Inch Camping Steel Detachable Knife

Clothing

• Thermal Shirt

• Thermal Pants

• Waterproof Pants

• Waterproof Jacket

• Bandanna

• Waterproof Hat

• Socks

• Waterproof Steel Toed Boots

• Forsheda A4 Gas Mask

• 40mm NATO Filters(5 per person)

Shelter

• Kodiak Tarps Camo 8' x 10'(2)

• Sleeping Bag

• Emergency Blanket(2)

First Aid

• Fully Stocked MOLLE Tactical Trauma Kit First Aid Pouch

• Sawyer Extractor Pump Kit

• 170 mg Potassium Iodate

• QuickClot Sport

• Ibuprofen Tablets 200mg

Tools

• Zippo Lighter/Lighter Fluid

• Waterproof Matches

• Mag-Lite ST3D016 3-D Cell LED Flashlight

• D-Cell Alkaline Batteries(6 extra)

• Snap-On Cyalume Light Sticks

• Ka-Bar Black Kukri Machete

• Multi - Purpose 5-in-One Survival Shovel

• Buck Knife

• Leatherman 830850 Skeletool CX Multitool

• Assorted Fishhooks

• Fishing Line(at least 50lbs test)

• Motorola MH230R 23-Mile Range 22-Channel FRS/GMRS Two-Way Radio

• Compass

• Sharpening stone

• Whistle

• Gun Cleaning Kit(Rifle and Pistol)

• Rothco 550lb. Type III Nylon Paracord(100ft)

Weapons

• Omega VI Ultra Universal Modular Light Holster

• Extra Mag Pouch (Rifle and Pistol)

• Browning Hi-Power Mark III .40 S&W

• Springfield Armory .308 Winchester Rifle

• Ammo(.40 S&W and .308 Winchester)

Hygiene

• Toothbrush & Toothpaste

• Shaving Razor(5spare razor blades)

• Shaving Cream

• Soap

• Wet Wipes

• Insect Repellent

• Sun Block

• Shampoo and Body Wash

 

Comments and Fixes

 

One thing I try to do is follow the rule of 3's. If it doesn't have 3 uses its not worth carrying.

however not all the items you cary will have more than 1 use, it's up to you to decide if its worth it. Also i don't mean to nit pick but i'm going to.

for instance, is your medium sized bowl metal or plastic? if it's metal you have 3 uses. You could use it for cooking/boiling water, digging, making noise maybe to scare off a predator, and i might just be trying to hard with this one but if it came down to it you could use it for a helmet of sorts.

 

another thing when looking for a backpack maybe find one with a bladder, obviousely you can carry water with it, and it might be a good while before finding drinkable water, so your canteen might not be enough. it also it doubles as a shower, let it sit in the sun for a while and you have warm/ hot water.

 

is it cold where you live? from the cloths your bringin g along it sounds like it, if not you might want to think about some shorts/ t shirts.

 

the gas mask is a good idea no matter what. (example) do you know how many chlorine plants we have in the US? the answer is alot. when tshtf whos going to tend to these places? no one and when they finally leak there will be mass amounts of poison thatt will not just float away on the breeze (chlorine is heavier than air). just as an example and chlorine probably isn't the worst thing out there a gas mask can save you from.

 

i know this is dragging on but i've got much more so....

 

would you like to know more? (starship troopers)

 

just say the word.

 

welcome to the world of prepping

 

and the bug out bag is looking very good so far:)

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I would not carry that many day's water on my back at one time unless I was in a desert area where it was absolutely necessary. I'd instead get a good filter or Polar Pure bottle.

 

If you are in a situation where it may be possible to bug out by vehicle at least to a nearby area you plan to re-visit you can put some extra items in a large cooler, barrel, or other watertight container and make a cache with some of your gear to lighten what you have to carry. I have a BOB plus a couple large marine coolers that will go with me as as far as the vehicle can. I have silicon. 50 gallon drum liners, and tarps in the coolers to help seal them longer if I cache them.

 

I certainly appreciate the power of the 308 and don't argue that it is an excellent choice. Here again however, weight adds up quickly in ammo. I went with a Remington 7615 carbine in 223 for this reason and load 65gr Sierra gamekings to increase it's lethality as much as possible.

 

You are definitely on the right track. A good idea as you plan would be to start an excel program and list each item with it's advertised weight and cost. I did this and it makes it easier to decide what to and what not to buy or pack. I also bought a postage scale to help make my weights more accurate once I get an item and actually weigh it. I did this for hunting in the mountains and it soon became part of my BOB planning also.

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