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Our forefathers build this,and yes they were migrants,this was a new world,had to be build

there was plenty of room to prosper and grow,but like life,things change,the world has change

and under the umbrela of freedom and liberty laws have been change to benefit a few, politicians I mean, and greedy corporations out to make money with total disregard for the american people, and now we have a problem,and now we are been called barbarians.

As long as abuses are not commited,laws not broken,I will be more than happy to show a law enforcer official my ID,the law saids so,I did not came to this country to break laws,I came to be part of them.So now ,why this?.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-upholds-arizona-show-papers-measure-mixed-ruling-000045097.html

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Our forefathers build this,and yes they were migrants,this was a new world,had to be build

there was plenty of room to prosper and grow,but like life,things change,the world has change

and under the umbrela of freedom and liberty laws have been change to benefit a few, politicians I mean, and greedy corporations out to make money with total disregard for the american people, and now we have a problem,and now we are been called barbarians.

As long as abuses are not commited,laws not broken,I will be more than happy to show a law enforcer official my ID,the law saids so,I did not came to this country to break laws,I came to be part of them.So now ,why this?.

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-upholds-arizona-show-papers-measure-mixed-ruling-000045097.html

 

If your legally here, there is no problem....If you want your eyes opened go over seas/out of country without a passport and learn the reality of things as they are.

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Correct,so why all the hate,this country has open its doors to millions,healht care,education,food,etc,they get better care than in their own country,so now,we are no good,nowhere in Lady Liberty is stated"COME TO AMERICA,EVERYTHING IF FREE".

THIS COUNTRY GAVE A HELPING HAND-NOW THEY WANT THE HOLD ARM.

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I think that such problems are divisive and that we should talk about only the primary problems of Republicanism which are restricted govt, low taxation and personal freedom and that we should prevent problems like abortion, Religious principles, weapons, the Structure, family principles, homosexuality, protected boundaries, English-only, conventional wedding etc.

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The problem, for me, comes down to the "Rule of Law" (ROL). We are a republic, NOT a democracy, so that means that we have ROL. If I disagree with what is happening, I am free to work to change the law. The key is, UNTIL I get the law changed, I am NOT free to ignore the law. WROL (Without Rule of Law) we devolve into a democracy (mob rule) or dictatorship (rule by executive order) with no protection for anyone except from his own strength.

 

Illegal aliens (they are NOT "Undocumented Emigrants" anymore than a drug dealer is an "Undocumented Pharmacist" - I HATE it when folks try to play games with the language to get their way :mad: ) are law breakers and must be treated as such. I frankly don't give a good "explicative deleted" what other countries do or do not do! With a few rare exceptions they have been dictatorships/oligarchies/elitist/socialist/etc. for so bloody long they have forgotten (if they ever knew) how to be free. Remember that everywhere but here, the state gives the subjects their rights. In the US the citizens (NOT subjects) have GOD GIVEN rights that the Constitution guarantees the government "shall not be infringe(d)" upon.

 

Check out http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html for the readings but they are limits on the power of government.

 

As to immigration policy, that is a separate discussion BUT what ever we do, WE MUST DO IT WITHIN THE RULE OF LAW! Anything else is national suicide for a republic. IF you want to be a subject, then by all means ignore ROL issues. IF you want to be a citizen, even when you don't like the outcome, insist on ROL. It is the only way groups of people can live together with any degree of freedom.

 

Just my not so humble opinion, but history says I'm very correct.

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I agree with every word above from Capt. Bart. So few people understand how our government was set up and how we are a society that is ruled by law not by the whims of any majority. Your freedoms are constantly under attack. The lack of education is allowing the government to seize those god given rights little by little.

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I too agree with Capt Bart. I want to live in a free republic and have "Rule of Law" which is intended to protect us and help us to maintain civil order. Without ROL there most certainly would be chaos, mob rule, and anarchy. We the people (aka the citizens of this nation) still have the power to protect our rights through legal means. We have the power, but, more importantly the obligation to do so. Just as Awake stated, "Your freedoms are constantly under attack. The lack of education is allowing the government to seize those God given rights little by little." This is why it's so important that everyone know their rights and the law of the land. It's good that there are human rights and civil rights watchdog groups out there, but, its "we the people" that must take it upon ourselves to be educated and never presume "someone" will rescue us.

 

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