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1. Dont believe everything you see on the Internet or you e-mails. Everybody has that one person that has to send you the latest OMG email on the latest crisis.

 

2. Guns and ammo are part of a good well thought out plan but should not take over your prepping budget. Only if you plan to live in a war zone like Chicago would i plan on massive fire power.

 

3.Dont model your preps after "Doomsday Preppers". Hollywood skews everything. Remember their circumstances, locations, and priorities are not your circumstances, location, and priorities! Being prepared is all about doing the best that you can, where you are, and with what you have!

 

4.Dont stop prepping. There is always a new way or tweak you should be looking for. Preparedness is more a way of life and a perspective than a purchase or an event.

 

5.Don’t think that purchasing power equals preparedness. In a worst case scenario, many of the wealthiest will be the first to go. Survival is not about all your stuff. It's the mindset that will prevail.

 

just some of my random thoughts.

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1. Dont believe everything you see on the Internet or you e-mails. Everybody has that one person that has to send you the latest OMG email on the latest crisis.

 

2. Guns and ammo are part of a good well thought out plan but should not take over your prepping budget. Only if you plan to live in a war zone like Chicago would i plan on massive fire power.

 

3.Dont model your preps after "Doomsday Preppers". Hollywood skews everything. Remember their circumstances, locations, and priorities are not your circumstances, location, and priorities! Being prepared is all about doing the best that you can, where you are, and with what you have!

 

4.Dont stop prepping. There is always a new way or tweak you should be looking for. Preparedness is more a way of life and a perspective than a purchase or an event.

 

5.Don’t think that purchasing power equals preparedness. In a worst case scenario, many of the wealthiest will be the first to go. Survival is not about all your stuff. It's the mindset that will prevail.

just some of my random thoughts.

 

I like the bolded. A lot. So true. And, prepping is about your reading materials as well. Building a store is only part of it. You have to build up your mind to withstand the situation.

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Awake is right on the money,I have been saying the same thing for some time now,The Mad Max Mentality,

let`s forget the preps and buy a tank,that way we can ravege the country side,create havoc in the cities,my God, what that hhhh,is going on out there.

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VonBayern, He didn't miss it, just added it to #3...lol.

 

Awake, as an addendum on #5, You can have all the gear in the world, but if you can't use it correctly, it means nothing. Practice is the most precious asset you have and it costs nothing but time. Gear canNOT replace skills and the only thing that will give you skills is practice, which also builds confidence which helps with your mental state.

 

Very good thread Awake.

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yes ....very good thread.

 

i 100% agree reg. iv'e met a few men who could survive well with little more than a knife and fire kit. but iv'e met tons who had all the latest gadgets who wouldn't make it a week in the wild. buying is easy, learning is hard.......and it ain't gonna be easy.

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VonBayern, He didn't miss it, just added it to #3...lol.

 

Awake, as an addendum on #5, You can have all the gear in the world, but if you can't use it correctly, it means nothing. Practice is the most precious asset you have and it costs nothing but time. Gear canNOT replace skills and the only thing that will give you skills is practice, which also builds confidence which helps with your mental state.

 

Very good thread Awake.

 

Thanks REG5.

the idea came to me yesterday as i sat on a rock in the middle of a river(long story).

and yes i forgot to add practice with your gadgets. But i always played with all my toys as a kid. Even today i cant have anything that i have not worked with and learned the principles involved. I forgot that some never take their gadgets out of the packaging. Just remember that gadgets will enhance your skills and your chances for survival but will not replace any skill you are missing.

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Well, we have time for a long story....lol.

 

It's 1 of the reasons why I like the living history of the Colonial/Mountainman era and Native American skills/crafts. They didn't have 1/1000th of what we have today and if I can use their methods to build a fire, harvest food for the table, etc and then implement our modern gear to just make it that much easier, my chances are greatly increased. Survival is the 1 thing that the adage of "work smarter, not harder" truly means whether you live or die. You may feel like you're "dead" after a hard days work, but if you over-exert in an emergency, you stand a fair chance of failing when failure cannot be an option.

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In response to #2, I see a 22lr rifle and a good sidearm as "survival" tools. Sidearms are for defense (mostly) and so a good caliber is needed; i.e., 45 (ACP or Colt), 40 S&W, 357, 38 SPC, 44 Mag/SPC, and I'll even throw the 9mm in over ammo availability. I can take anything with a 22lr up to deer sized game rather easily and it will work for defense (most thugs don't like it when the intended victim shoots back, especially accurately).

I would even recommend a 22lr sidearm if it's in the budget, as it offers another tool that you only need 1 ammo type for and can be effective. I won't lie, I have all the "cool" tools as well, AR carbine, M1 Carbine, Rem 30/06, etc but I class my 22lr as my "go to" survival tools. If I need to carry or use my other options, it's descended into what I fear the most.... a combative survival scenario with my family in the mix.

 

Sorry for kind of hi-jacking the thread Awake.

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VonBayern, He didn't miss it, just added it to #3...lol.

 

Very good thread Awake.

 

Damn...now I'll have to go back and learn to read...missed it when I read it the first time.

 

:o

 

It is a good thread. Concise and to the point.

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Why does #2 remind me of the scene from "I'm gonna git you sucka" where the one guy loads up with so many weapons that the rest of his crew just stand there watching him in disbelief...then he trips and falls and you hear guns going off for about 3 minutes.

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In response to #2, I see a 22lr rifle and a good sidearm as "survival" tools. Sidearms are for defense (mostly) and so a good caliber is needed; i.e., 45 (ACP or Colt), 40 S&W, 357, 38 SPC, 44 Mag/SPC, and I'll even throw the 9mm in over ammo availability. I can take anything with a 22lr up to deer sized game rather easily and it will work for defense (most thugs don't like it when the intended victim shoots back, especially accurately).

I would even recommend a 22lr sidearm if it's in the budget, as it offers another tool that you only need 1 ammo type for and can be effective. I won't lie, I have all the "cool" tools as well, AR carbine, M1 Carbine, Rem 30/06, etc but I class my 22lr as my "go to" survival tools. If I need to carry or use my other options, it's descended into what I fear the most.... a combative survival scenario with my family in the mix.

 

Sorry for kind of hi-jacking the thread Awake.

 

Going with the flow Reg5. I like the .22lr as well. Even own an Ar15 in .22lr. Have several rifles and a pistol in .22lr. Very cheap ammo and is cheap to work on your target shooting. It is a great caliber to introduce reluctant folks to shooting. Great for kids. and yes you can take down large game with it. Just remember that hunting large game is illegal in most states, so save that skill till shtf.

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Agreed Awake. I normally use my muzzleloaders or 45 Colt rifle for deer hunting. Also, as JCMS has stated several times, when most are figuring out if the added weight of 300 rounds is too much, with a 22lr, you can carry 3000 rounds and probably not have as much weight.

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Such important points to make! Buying power alone will only help you so long as 1. you use it to surround yourself with people who know what they are doing and are willing to carry you in exchange for money/supplies, 2. the people you are with/people you encounter don't take it from you by force, and 3. it lasts.

 

If you're on your own and unskilled, money/tools you can't use won't be worth anything. If you are unable to defend yourself/your property, money/tools will likely be what encourages someone else to rob/kill you. And if you are unskilled and your supplies/money are anything other than endless, when they run out, whatever help you've "purchased" or been able to eke out for yourself will go away, too, leaving you as useless and vulnerable as you were when TSHTF except that now it's weeks or months later and everyone else who has survived is smarter and tougher than they were when it first happened.

 

As for the bullets for barter idea, that makes as much sense to me as gathering silver and gold for future trading. Ideally, you'd have both ammo and silver set aside for barter in your preps. But it seems unlikely that silver is going to have as much buying power as you'd hope for when things initially go down because people who weren't fully prepared are going to be scrambling to find useful items to help them survive. The things you can use will be in greater demand, especially when there's a lot of chaos and disruption. Ammo is an immensely useful supply, I'm sure we could all agree, whereas it seems like silver is truly become useful after there's some measure of regular trade going on.

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Here is 4 days worth.................

 

1. Never but never put an unopened can of beans in the fire.

 

2. Never but never corner a skunk.

 

3. Never but never lose your concentration trot-lining.

 

4. Never but never eat raw hot peppers and go to potty without thick enough wiping paper or some holding

paper.

 

5. Never but never fish with stink bait when you have a cold and can't smell or a runny nose.

 

6. Never but never try to go under a electric cattle fence on a wet or dewy night / morning.

 

7. Never set your boots out or right side up and shake them out in the morning.

 

8. Never but never fire a flare during a wind storm or hurricane type storm "boomerang effect"

 

9. Never but never pull down your pants and close yourself in the outhouse unless you have checked for yellow jackets red wasps or hornets and or snakes in the corners and black widows under the seat.

 

10. Never but never as you get older or change your diet take a fart for granted IMHO.

 

11. Never but never sky dive or go into the water without a fast knife with a good lanyard with stop in a elastic wrist cuff.

 

12. Never but never say lookie here and try something daring or off the cuff you will only draw attention to an

embarrassing event especially if anyone has a video camera.

 

13. Never but never try to adjust a off center pasty on a pole dancer they do not appreciate symmetry as much as you think.

 

14. Liquor is not a good fire suppressor beer is OK but not liquor.

 

15. never but never hold your face over the carburetor while trying to start an engine after you primed it with gas.

 

16. Men without eyebrows seldom get lucky even when married the laughter kinda ruins the mood.

 

17. If your a sleepy head in the morning and have hemorrhoids check the tube before using it for denture paste or tooth paste, I do not have either of these problems but I just thought I would pass it along.

 

18. Never but never pick up or touch an animal you shot until your sure it's dead especially squirrels.

 

19. a possum does not smell any different live dead or cooked IMPO

 

20. The real reason your bury your turds is actually a dual one to clear the area and make sure a snake does not bite you on the b@@ls and the second so you do not step in it on your way to go later that night.

 

21. wear glasses when drinking using a survival straw or regular straw so you do not poke your own eye out.

 

22. there is a million of these and I am tired so figure it out on your own.

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i'm in agreement about the 22s....light weight in weapon and ammo,"big enough",available everywhere.

we (wife ,kid,and i) have ruger 10-22s as our bug out rifle and a 22 hand gun each.

i have all those gadgets too, they make things easier. i just think everyone should be ABLE to do without them.

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