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the last firearm i'll ever buy(tearing up) is going to be a bear stopper hand gun.....99.9% sure i'm going with the 1911 colt 45. the reason for this post is to ask for other opinions .......and what should i pay?

 

i have the a couple of 7.62x25 tokeravs but i want a slegehammer too.

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damn straight a lota bang for the buck.....thats to cheap.....i was thinking 7 or 8 hundred minimum.

 

anyone know what quality on the rock island?

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I am partial to my Kimber Pro Carry Stainless. It has served me well for close to 15 years. A Kimber is a customized production 45. Shoots anything put in it including my hand loads. Standard clip is 7 rounds but 8 round clips are readily available.

 

Good tight pattern without heavy recoil.

 

It is my preferred carry when I am wearing enough clothes. :rolleyes:

 

http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/compact-ii-pro-carry-ii

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Personally I have heard negative things about the rock island and its made in some other country inn. Can't even remember. If this is going to be your last purchase I suggest spending the money on a good solid gun. I have a colt 1911 government model that is very sweet. Your probably going to be spending between 800-1000 on colt. If you want a cheaper 45 I highly rated recommend Springfield armory xd or xdm. Have shot both extensively and they are fantastic. For 600 bucks you get the gun two extra mags loader belt holster belt holster for the mags and replacable grips...hard to beat.

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I am not a fan of the 1911 or the 45acp really and I for sure wouldn't want to piss off a bear by shooting him with one!!! My next Big Boy handgun is going to probably be either a 44mag or a 454 Casull. The Taurus Raging Judge is a 454casull/45 long Colt/410 and is sort of interesting. My next Big Boy auto is going to be a Glock in 40 S&W with a .357 SIG barrel to go with it. I REALLY like the 357 SIG...I'm pretty fond of the 357 mag too. I like my defense rounds to be supersonic so they do more than just poke a hole. If you want to see the difference, shoot a watermelon with a 45apc and then finish it off with a 357mag. The 45 will make a nice round hole. The 357 will probably blow the melon into pieces. Living tissue like the melon is mostly water.

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the springfield looks more in my budget....and it'll match my 1903 springfield 30-06.....thanks wolf

 

dan i may have over stated my needs....what i really was saying is "big ol boy" stopper...and one of the pluses on the 45 is ammo price and availability.

 

rod those are super nice pistols but a bit out of my budget....thanks guys

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Kevin, like you, I don’t have a 1911 yet and own a Tokarev 7.62 X 25 and think that’ll do almost anything you want to do. Danm picked one of my favorites, the Taurus Judge. It can fire both 45 Long Colt and 410 shotgun ammo making it a formidable handgun. But my personal selection would be a Desert Eagle. They hit harder than a hammer. They make a noise that will frighten nearly everything in front of it and Robo Cop used it. I mean, come on… Robo Cop! B)

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anyone know what quality on the rock island?

 

Can't speak for them all, but the one I have has been great. I've had a GI type RIA since early 2007 and have had nary a hiccup after thousands of rounds. The only thing I didn't like is the standard sights, but my gunsmith took care of that.

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Kevin, like you, I don’t have a 1911 yet and own a Tokarev 7.62 X 25 and think that’ll do almost anything you want to do. Danm picked one of my favorites, the Taurus Judge. It can fire both 45 Long Colt and 410 shotgun ammo making it a formidable handgun. But my personal selection would be a Desert Eagle. They hit harder than a hammer. They make a noise that will frighten nearly everything in front of it and Robo Cop used it. I mean, come on… Robo Cop! B)

 

I have had occasion to work with the Desert Eagle. Please note that Robo Cop had a metal helmet that covered most of his face. That was to prevent the empty shell casings being ejected from scaring up his forehead and cheeks! :P

 

I had several casings skip off my head. The guy next to me had one hot case actually stick in his forehead right over his eye. It drew blood. Screamed like a girl! No offense intended to girls.

 

The Desert Eagle may be a hoot to shoot at the range but unless you have the physique of Arnold you will find it difficult to quickly point and shoot in any kind of gun fight. :rolleyes:

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The Springfield Armory 1911 is one of the best for the dollar out there. I especially like the one they call Loaded. It is sort of their version of the Gold Cup without the Gold Cups weaknesses. My ole best friend and shooting buddy was a 1911 and 45 fan. We had a lot of fun arguing about it.

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The Rock Island 1911's are made in the Phillipines. Some irony there if you know why they were comissioned in the first place. Got mine for a good price and I have had no complaints other than the factory sights are pretty lame. Otherwise, not finicky about ammo or magazines, shoots straight and has proven very reliable at the range.

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.45 ACP is not a bear stopper My New permenant home is Remote Alaska the minimum for bear and moose is .45 colt (also known as .45 long colt) the most common two and most favored calibers for those who spend a lot of time in the wilderness up there is the .44 MAG and the .454 Casull I own the Later in a Ruger Super Redhawk with the 7.5 inch barrel (the 2.5 inch snubnosed Alasken model's muzzle flip is too extreme and its accuraccy is horrible beyond 10 yards) the .500 S&W Mag is more likely to do serious injury to you as it has a history of cracked wrist and tendon damage to first time users if your looking for upper end I suggest not going past the .460 rigby. The .454 aches after a cylinder the .460 hurts after a cylinder the .480 makes you want to set it down after three shots and the .500 has you almost in tears after the second round leaves the muzzle.

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i have a raging bull in 500 mag, a .45 is a good round but if you want to take down a 500lb+ bear than i wouldn't go with anything less than a .454 casull. dont know where you are located. Im in NC and the biggest bear i will see is a black bear so really my 500 is overkill but i wanted one just because.

 

The rock island armory 1911s are really well made for the price the same tool and dye machines they use are the same ones used for higher end wilson and other pricey 1911s, I love my RRA 1911 and it shoots just as well as my colts and kimber warrior

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I have had occasion to work with the Desert Eagle. Please note that Robo Cop had a metal helmet that covered most of his face. That was to prevent the empty shell casings being ejected from scaring up his forehead and cheeks! :P

 

I had several casings skip off my head. The guy next to me had one hot case actually stick in his forehead right over his eye. It drew blood. Screamed like a girl! No offense intended to girls.

 

The Desert Eagle may be a hoot to shoot at the range but unless you have the physique of Arnold you will find it difficult to quickly point and shoot in any kind of gun fight. :rolleyes:

 

I owned a desert eagle in .44mag at one point, it is a range toy in my mind. yeah it was big, cool looking and carried 2 more rounds of .44 than a revolver but it was inaccurate, a beast to handle and chamber,and really was just too big and heavy for everyday carry. i got rid of it and used the money to buy a gun safe, my S&W model 629 with a 2 1/2" barrel is a much better back country carry piece than the desert eagle ever could be and I do not mind sacrificing 2 rounds for that

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Kevin, John Wayne used that stuff back when movies were in black & white! We’ve come a long way since then (and a 1911 will only piss off a bear… especially the way I shoot!).

 

The only person I know that has a Rock Island loves it and swears by it. I have strongly considered buying one based solely on price.

 

Rod, when I bought mine (used), the ejection were, to say the least, non-user friendly. After a really good cleaning coupled with some high volume cussing, it acts properly. And you are right, it is not meant for quick draw and shoot. But still… Robo Cop. Also, you can't get them in MA legally anymore. So I have a hard to find pistol. The value is not going to drop on it!

 

My first option is really the Judge. Shoots a 410 & 45 Long Colt good for bunnies, squirrel and ‘big’ things.

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After 3 months of research and priceing what was local I choose a Rock Island...Its about MONEY/cost.

Stoping power at 30 ft with hollow point!It will move a large 200 pound target Backwards!!

Nope Im not hunting bears....But it will stop anything come through my front door and send it backwards into what ever is behind it..

The little things that rock Island does to improve its workings is Now being copyed by the Big guys....

 

 

a good example..

 

 

 

JMO..

Yes we have black Bear here in Wva also..No I dont want to meet them in the woods/But I would rather have a .45 than a 9mm ....just in case...

JMO...

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