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lots of posts on this subject i think... consensus seems to indicate you should buy "heirloom seeds" not hybrids, as to where ,i think any nursery , get the 'freshest seeds you can find and as for storage,, cool dark place air tight container...others probably have better ideas- i havent got to seed storage in my preps yet...

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what!!?we already have dogs and cats living together in harmony! people sharing and caring! now you want to integrate seeds!!?oh the horror!!!

Probably a stupid question but: Can you store different seeds together? for instance, pputting several packets of different seeds into the same airtight container?

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Hahaha well i don't know!!! lol i guess more specifically: will oils from one seed damage another different type of seed when stored together over a long period of time? and dad, we should get some plants goin up at your place.... :)

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.. i don't see a problem other than telling which seeds are which, i was reading something where its a good idea to plant things in groups depending on amount of water and if the plants prefer ground water or rain water,,

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If worried about oils, then place packets in a sandwich or ziplock baggie, but I have never noticed an issue with oils spreading, there shouldn't be much "oil" in a seed if it has been dried properly. If going for long term storage, I'd even look into vacuum sealing my seeds (if you have one) or placing in a freezer bag with a double seal, fold over and tape to help insure an airtight seal.

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Always let at least one Plant you have go to seed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Harvest the seeds from at least 3 plants from the same vegey..

 

I have about 50 of this one flower growing around my home and garden..I have dried and use it for healing,its a great herb..

 

Calendula officinalis

Calendula syn. Pot Marigold................google it...I store my seeds from it in a envelope and store in a quart jar with news paper wraped on the outside and labeled....

Same with all my seeds I need for the next 3 years..

 

YES I have at least 3 years of seeds....Its about FOOD....JMO...

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Rayz hit on the big thing - make sure that the seeds are fresh and that they are NOT hybrid. Here are a few reputable sources, but you can probably find others if you look up related topics on this forum:

 

http://www.amishlandseeds.com/

 

http://www.anniesheirloomseeds.com/

 

http://www.newhopeseed.com/

 

Hi O.C. :D

 

Thanks very much for posting these links. I've experimented with vegetable gardening over the last couple years since we moved to this house. Still very much learning. My goal is to grow ALL the vegetables we eat ALL year round. So far, it's been a mixed success.....but getting better at it.

 

We usually get a light snow here once or twice during winter but I see vegetables in other folk's gardens all year round so I know it's possible if you plant the right vegetables according to season.

 

Take care,

 

Wolfe

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We usually get a light snow here once or twice during winter but I see vegetables in other folk's gardens all year round so I know it's possible if you plant the right vegetables according to season.

 

Good luck! I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard about doing year-round growing (or nearly year-round) by choosing some kinds of greens, carrots, beets, turnips, etc. You might be able to use small greenhouses, hoop houses, or even passive solar greenhouses to increase production. There are several books on the topic - a lot of them are referred to as four-season gardening - and here's some other good info:

 

http://www.cmg.colostate.edu/gardennotes/723.html

 

http://www.fourseasonfarm.com/

 

Hope that you see a lot of (delicious) success, Dangerwolfe!

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Always let at least one Plant you have go to seed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Harvest the seeds from at least 3 plants from the same vegey..

 

I have about 50 of this one flower growing around my home and garden..I have dried and use it for healing,its a great herb..

 

Calendula officinalis

Calendula syn. Pot Marigold................google it...I store my seeds from it in a envelope and store in a quart jar with news paper wraped on the outside and labeled....

Same with all my seeds I need for the next 3 years..

 

YES I have at least 3 years of seeds....Its about FOOD....JMO...

 

couldn't agree more matt, so many people forget to let some plants go to seed. we always done it with our gardens and we very seldom ever had to buy seeds. something else to consider is planting some tobacco plants, its good to put on cuts to keep from getting infected and also great for bartering!

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"something else to consider is planting some tobacco plants, its good to put on cuts to keep from getting infected and also great for bartering! "

 

I have some tobacco seed's but I failed to get them to spout at the start of the year....Fussey little buggers.lol

 

Any advice?

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"something else to consider is planting some tobacco plants, its good to put on cuts to keep from getting infected and also great for bartering! "

 

I have some tobacco seed's but I failed to get them to spout at the start of the year....Fussey little buggers.lol

 

Any advice?

 

matt, when we used to raise tobacco we would have a "plant bed", we would till up the soil good then cover the bed site with wood and set it on fire, we would burn it through most of the night. after it was out and had cooled down we would use rakes and clean up the bigger cchunks of leftover wood, then we would sow the seeds and rake into the ash and dirt and then cover the whole bed with canvas tarps. but its not your regular canvas,we got ours from southern states farm supply. there was also a chemical my dad put under the tarps but i don't remember the name. i'm sure southern states would know. if they haven't made it illegal by now! but yes they can be a pain in the a##! LOL! once the plants started to push up against the tarp we pulled them up and then set them out in the fields.

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I keep all my seeds in the freezer in a tupperwear container as long as they are heirloom seeds I buy whenever I see them

 

different breeds can cross of the same type 2 different types of corn etc... to me it does not matter but try to

 

have one seed of each vegetable problem is you do not know unless you ask what works in you area.

 

seeds last for years you loose some per year {attrition} but you plant more per area I start in the green house and

transplant in season.

 

check your almanac for dates general spring garden after good Friday {or last freeze in your area} plants that fruit above

 

ground on the rising of the moon plants like potatoes peanuts turnips etc. on the waining of the moon.

 

winter crops do not germinate until the ground is cooler you need to research germination temps

 

A simple shed or lean to roof hot house or green house raise plants year round

 

sliding glass doors are out of style look for them and most people will give them to you I leave the frame on the glass

 

make a frame work out of treated 4x4's concreted in the ground and cross rails 4x4's to place your glass door and trim around it

 

in the center I have a single sheet of metal opposite a door old glass & screen door the single sheet of metal is a back for my

 

wood stove and is surrounded by old brick on 3 sides to hold heat roof clear plastic corrugated sheet seal with spray foam

 

or moss whatever in winter to hold in heat I use barrels {full of water} for shelves made of old corrugated Iron.

 

I have over 600 gallons of water in my green house my next project is to gutter the back to catch rain water.

 

I have a pergola off the front to use shade material if the sun is intense find a used pot dealer in your area

 

many landscapers plant and save the buckets I have them ranging in size from 1 gallon to 15 gallons

 

raised beds in a semi sunny area for garlic beds and onions in warm climates ginger etc.

 

you can raise herbs all year long inside in a window or in a greenhouse an oil extractor from Lehman's you can

make essential oils and cooking oils from sunflowers seeds etc.. the paste left can be used for food or animal feed.

 

now we have Mexican limes lemon tree seedlings and tomatoes in the green house as well as some radishes

 

as long as you can vent the smoke charcoal wood leaves limbs logs paper {you get 2 - 55 gallon barrels a year of junk mail}

for security all old bulls and personal information needs to be burned.

 

A simple wood stove find a 30 to 55 gallon drum I like the old heavy gauge ones a piece of expanded metal large enough

for the barrel to sit on stack blocks or brick 3 sides lay expanded metal across and cut a door to place wood etc in 2 inches up

from open end save the cut piece to make a door use pop rivets to mount black iron hinges use a black iron gate latch

to secure door bend it to fit sound barrel now stand the barrel on the grate opening is on the bottom.

now here you need to be a bit precise you need a drill and a 3/4 inch bit metal shears or a sawsall or jig saw to cut the hole

for the stove pipe opposite the door at the back, here is the starter joint I would use you hole need to fit the flange tight.

 

http://heating-and-cooling.hardwarestore.com/96-570-black-stove-pipe-connectors/starter-joint-619757.aspx

 

now get proper size stove pipe a couple adjustable elbows the flex ones your exterior pipe needs to go over the ridge

or top of building need a damper for your size pipe put in the first joint of pipe up from stove about a foot up

 

damper view

http://heating-and-cooling.hardwarestore.com/96-570-black-stove-pipe-dampers/cast-iron-damper-259382.aspx

 

start green house plants early and sell some of the seedlings people are stupid they will buy anything

 

a small pot with aloe vera cactus some herbs roses what the fock ever have fun with it sell them a MJ plant and call it in.

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