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I'm a commuter and charter bus driver who lives on the jersey shore. I'm in NYC many times a day. Since 911, I learned some things about the scope of such a disaster. One of the most concerning things for me is how to get back to new jersey to tend to my wife who is disabled. When 911 happened, there was no good way out of manhatten. The tunnels and bridges were closed. Everyone in the whole city of millions of people were trying to get out of the city. They relied on the small amount of ferries to make an exit. This took days to be achieved. Even when the tunnels and bridges were reopened you had to go through security check points for every vehicle. The only people I saw get out quickly are the people downtown by wall st who had private boats that came and picked them up. I'm sure that was no easy task either. I would love to hear suggestions on what you would do in such a situation. I'm completely open for suggestions due to to the fact that a similar situation can easily happen again. Thank you for all responces!

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The folding bike would be great in most places but in manhattan I don't think it would help! Even when people aren't in a panic it's hard to navigate the streets with everyone driving and walking. Also with the bridges and tunnels out, it's an island! Swimming across the dirty Hudson river is all I can think about! I'm sure I wouldn't make that swim! Thanks for the idea! It could get me to central park easily but not out of the city to the jersey side.

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I'm a commuter and charter bus driver who lives on the jersey shore. I'm in NYC many times a day. Since 911, I learned some things about the scope of such a disaster. One of the most concerning things for me is how to get back to new jersey to tend to my wife who is disabled. When 911 happened, there was no good way out of manhatten. The tunnels and bridges were closed. Everyone in the whole city of millions of people were trying to get out of the city. They relied on the small amount of ferries to make an exit. This took days to be achieved. Even when the tunnels and bridges were reopened you had to go through security check points for every vehicle. The only people I saw get out quickly are the people downtown by wall st who had private boats that came and picked them up. I'm sure that was no easy task either. I would love to hear suggestions on what you would do in such a situation. I'm completely open for suggestions due to to the fact that a similar situation can easily happen again. Thank you for all responces!

 

There is a reason I don't go to places like NYC. All cities are risky but an island is boarder line impossible. If you don't have access to a boat, then you need a 'hidey hole' inside the city where you can hunker down for a few days to 2 weeks. Given the real estate in NYC, that could be an expensive proposition. I would recommend that you do a recon of potential places to hide out in and then built a BOB that will allow you to get to that spot and stay put until you can GOOD.

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Thanks everyone for your responses! It's a tough area to be in if something goes down. If talked to my bosses about working with the city to help get people out since we are a bus company, a very big bus company. Turns out they already have these plans set up since 911. So I do have a possible way out depending on the situation and I would also be able to help many who aren't prepared. If all else fails.... I need to find so city friends and places to go. Thanks again.

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A possiblility would be a fishing float along with chest waders for protection from the water? in the river. If you got two floats, a small trolling motor and some canned air all you would need then would be a battery and some rope. These items should be available at most outdoor supply stores.

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As with the other responders.

 

The first thing that came to my mind is a Kayak or similar water craft, storage space with easy and close access to the water. Have a stash away bike on the other side so you can skeedattle on home to take care of the wife.

 

Glad to see your company has a plan now. :)

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What about approaching it from the other end? What preparations can you make to assist your wife until you get home??

 

Depending on the emergency it may take from hours, days to weeks before you make it home. How are you set up for easy to fix food, water, juices, meds, etc???

If you feel comfortable with giving us more detailed info, maybe we can come up with more ideas.

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I would consider an inflatable kayak for getting off the island. I see great deals on various brands/models on craigslist all the time and they even have two person models if you need room for your wife later on or even a passenger who is willing to help you paddle in exchange for getting off the island as well. I used to laugh at the inflatables thinking that they were totally junk but they are surprisingly tough and take up little space and weigh next to nothing compared to a hard side kayak. You could use a pump (some pumps can be used to inflate things and as a liquid siphon which is handy) to inflate or even have a pressurized tank stored/stashed somewhere if you needed it inflated in a hurry and when you're done with it it could make a good barter item.

 

I agree with femvet on thinking the situation through from both ends. It has been a hard realization to make but if the shtf my g/f won't realistically make it because of medical issues. Because of this we have planned with her limitations and needs in mind and instead of giving up hope this has been even more motivation to be as ready as we possibly can. It has also given her even more determination to doeverything she possibly can to help our people for as long as she can. Just my thoughts on this, I'm new here but old in problem solving thinking so take it for what you think it's worth hehe.

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FemVet and Smilinacey,

excellent points. Being able to KNOW your important folks are safe can make a HUGE difference in your own survival. Not knowing can cause you to take risks that are unnecessary. Knowing they are safe gets allows you to make reasonable choices about getting home and allows them to know you're coming.

 

That gets back into the communications threads; how DO you let your loved ones know you're OK and what you are doing.

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Smilinacey brings up an Important Position/haveing Family with a disability..I face that Also,wont go in to details but that why Im bugging in...and have plan B,C.D is important..

 

Intell!!!!Communications... we all have to face the fact that we depend on the phones too much and when they are gone we will have a"WTS' moument/confusion..

 

A small Hamm hand radio seems to be the best and we have discused the advantages..Capt Bart,and our friend in Florida are probley already Talking with thiers.lol

 

It does need to be explored..

Plan A..Stay Put...dont hear from me in 36 hours !!do plan B...

 

 

Intel and Communications is often forgotten..

jmo

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Musicman,

 

I am in a simular boat. I live in queens and work on Long Island. My fiance, Brother and his girl friend all work in the city. Not a big fan of them working in Manhhatn but that is where the good jobs are. Now once they have made if off Manhattn island we are then stuck on another island. There are 3 bridges and a ferry off the islanand that dont take you back through Manhattan.

 

Now if the bridges, tunnels and ferries are still accessable it dosnt mean that they would be blocked by vechiles all out of gas. The boat is the best and most likely the only way off any island. The biggiest issue is once your off the boat. No transport, supplies (only going to have what you can carry) where to go from there. ex. BOL is 300 miles from where your boat would ground you r talking 10 days at 10 miles which is unrealisty to keep up. So double the time. 20 days to get to you BOL.

 

Living in the city sucks for preparing.

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