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What we will be faced with is politicians, on both sides of the aisle, that will not realistically deal with the direction that entitlements and debt are taking us in this country. We have, IMHO, five years at the outside, before a tipping point is reached and collapse becomes inevitable.

 

You give it 5 years ? SOmetimes naive optimism is a good sleeping pill. Im considering closing my savings account this week!

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You give it 5 years ? SOmetimes naive optimism is a good sleeping pill. Im considering closing my savings account this week!

 

In my defense I did say "at the outside". :rolleyes:

 

I have been in business a lot of years and have generally found that things dissolving into chaos take an amazing amount of time to happen at the front end. Mostly due to the complexity of the surrounding systems.

 

Let me explain "at the front end". My background is marketing research. In plain language, things "going to hell" take an amazing amount of time to build momentum. Sometimes it seems like it takes forever. Then a critical point is reached and "snap", it happens! The threshold that is crossed is rarely predictable and only visible in 20/20 hindsight.

 

The U.S. economy is an amazingly complex organism. In some ways it is extremely resilient. In other ways it is equally vunerable. Over the past few years the economy has been receiving some very bad shocks like housing values, oil prices, regulations). Most, if not all, of these shocks can be easily traced to the government. The underlying private sector, that actually creates all the wealth, is fundamentally sound. It kind of acts like a weight lifter doing squats with ever increasing weight being piled on. It rises back up each time but gets slower and slower. Hence, the not quite recovery we are experiencing.

 

In the past, the time after a recession is full of opportunity because government has back off and the weight has been quicky reduced. Then the weight lifter quickly bounces up again. That is why past recoveries have been so quick and dramatic.

 

This time the government has chosen to keep the weight on and even add more.

 

At some point a significant part of the private sector is not going to be able to rise up anymore.

 

There is a lot more to this but that is why I have the opinions I have.

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23 hrs ago this was top story on the AP B&G...

 

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2012-06-20-US-Obama-Executive-Privilege-QandA/id-9877f20138c64f08a410a89f919c1cd8

 

This is why Holder will probably not suffer the criminal contempt charge.

Being named in such "papers" being deemed as an Executive Privilege

will (1) exempt him from anything or (2) be a sacrificial lamb of sorts to

remove focus from other issues.

 

This is a most interesting read by the way.

 

The whole thing seems like a glorified game of chicken, with both sides afraid to take a stand. Holder screwed up and if obama keeps covering for him it can only make him look bad in the end. Thanks Rat.

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23 hrs ago this was top story on the AP B&G...

 

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2012-06-20-US-Obama-Executive-Privilege-QandA/id-9877f20138c64f08a410a89f919c1cd8

 

This is why Holder will probably not suffer the criminal contempt charge.

Being named in such "papers" being deemed as an Executive Privilege

will (1) exempt him from anything or (2) be a sacrificial lamb of sorts to

remove focus from other issues.

 

This is a most interesting read by the way.

 

someone should pay for BOTH of those agents that were killed.

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Rod..I agree that it may be 5 years,out side..

You have a new Pres-new hope-no new problems....6 to 8 months..we get some hope restored..

All America wants is to be left alone and stop trying to control US,give everyone a chance who wants to work -work.

 

But it only takes a tiney straw to start a bon fire....Thats what Im scared off most!!

Than its on like donkey kong..

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one thing i agree on is that you need to vote. The Obama base is starting to fracture a bit. People that supported him with great enthusiasm have cooled off. Everyone sees that the great and powerful OZ is just a pathetic ego maniac with a socialist heart hiding behind a curtain (Yes i had to edit my true feelings). The voters that were so gladly willing to vote for him last time are becoming disillusioned and without that RA- RA feeling they will simply not bother to vote. They are the lazy class. Those of us that vote every election need to get the crowd that agrees with us to vote even if they feel their vote does not count.YOUR VOTE COUNTS.

Holder, Obama and the rest of these jerks will eventually get what they deserve (out of power and legally prosecuted). The main issue is weather Joe six pack can make it through this mess. If he can survive then the Republic will. The pendulum has swung hard left and it is time for it to swing back. We are still in control of our destiny. If you dont believe then they have already won.

As for a surprise martial law holding off an election.... that would be one hell of a trick. I dont see the military following such a hoax. The military leaders are wiser than most would believe. I do believe that the military is loyal but also smart enough to see this type of action for what it is.

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Awake, I agree on the military but they have been planting some serious underqualified people to the flag ranks (petreaus comes to mind). We have very few in the officer corps today that are qualified or even take their oath seriously. They look at it as a strictly political move for their next career.

 

* I say this based on personal experience. I know there are a few good officers out there, but on the whole, I think they are completely worthless and not worth the air and space they take. Many just entered the service to get their student loans paid off or college paid for outright. I think the troops deserve the education benefits, but if you're going to use it, at least put forth an effort to be the best troop you can be. I also think every officer should have to spend 4 years enlisted before being commissioned. Leadership is NOT the place to be learning how to deploy an ambush, run a convoy, conduct an OP/LP, or the myriad of other skills needed to survive and win at the Warrior's trade. And this doesn't account for the ones who are wearing a uniform, so make ALOT of policy and other decisions and have never even been thru BCT but are (to be polite) liasons that have been left in place too long and have created a void in true military leadership. Ok, I'll stop here before getting in more trouble*

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Commisioned Officers Do not run the Army they manage it, It is the Noncommissioned Officer that is responsible for Training, Daily operations, in the ranks and under combat leadership, Maintenance, ect. Commissioned officer handle the logistics and planning though the NCO may need to make some on the spot corrections. but that is also not to say that there are not any good officers left I have served under several very good Officers (Gen Ordinero, Gen Bell, LTG Baptiste, MG Wentz,Col. Steele, Col. Atchison Lt.Col. Andrerson, Cpt. Davis, Cpt Arapoha Right off the top of my head. At least two of them are on this forum one of them introduced me to this forum) even a couple that were flag ranked but I have seen a lot more ticket punching, self promoting, incompetent and dangerous morons in the Commissioned Officer ranks and unfortuneately that has been common for a long time I am sure Capt. Bart, Excoastie and a few others on this forum can attest to this and they were Commisioned Officers, as well as a whole List of NCO's that this forum has Myself, Regulator, Devil Dog, and a huge list of others I can't name of off the top of my head right now. The real Question Should not be what the DC leadership will do but the Field grunts the real power of our Armed Forces will do and while I have seen a dumbing down of these younger soldiers theoverwhelming majority are still loyal to the Constitution and the people not the government

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Sorry folks just got out of the V.A. today been in for a couple of days for some TESTS

 

I tried the old joke with the Indian doctor and got no response he would be the perfect straight man

 

the joke goes:

The doctors says We need to keep you for a few days for tests and need urine, stool, semen and blood samples.

 

And I say,"can't I just leave my underwear and you call me later".

 

He didn't get it, blank faced he said I am admitting you and your team will see you tomorrow.

not a grin chuckle snicker or even a smirk, he just killed my dream of becoming a stand up comic

well more like one of those that have at least one cheek on a bar stool.

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Hope everything turns out good JCMS. I know the deal with VA tests. They actually told me it was good I still had my sense of humor, altho they have NOT given me my full disclosure of results yet. I get to wait another 3 weeks for those, after a frantic phone call saying I needed to make an appointment "ASAP". I guess my soon is different than theirs...lol.

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Hope everything turns out good JCMS. I know the deal with VA tests. They actually told me it was good I still had my sense of humor, altho they have NOT given me my full disclosure of results yet. I get to wait another 3 weeks for those, after a frantic phone call saying I needed to make an appointment "ASAP". I guess my soon is different than theirs...lol.

 

they definitely have a time warp "sense of time" and a couple of the specialties are less than concerned

and have a passive attitude toward any work ethic and do not fight for the rights of vets and to help their own

profession IMHO.

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The Bonus Army...

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x17723

 

It may happen again..

 

 

 

...A month later, on July 28, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the evacuation of the veterans from all government property, Entrusted with the job, the Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two marchers killed. Learning of the shooting at lunch, President Hoover ordered the army to clear out the veterans. Infantry

 

and cavalry supported by six tanks were dispatched with Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur in command. Major Dwight D. Eisenhower served as his liaison with Washington police and Major George Patton led the cavalry.

 

By 4:45 P.M. the troops were massed on Pennsylvania Ave. below the Capitol. Thousands of Civil Service employees spilled out of work and lined the streets to watch. The veterans, assuming the military display was in their honor, cheered. Suddenly Patton's troopers turned and charged. "Shame, Shame" the spectators cried. Soldiers with fixed bayonets followed, hurling tear gas into the crowd.

 

By nightfall the BEF had retreated across the Anacostia River where Hoover ordered MacArthur to stop. Ignoring the command, the general led his infantry to the main camp. By early morning the 10,000 inhabitants were routed and the camp in flames. Two babies died and nearby hospitals overwhelmed with casualties. Eisenhower later wrote, "the whole scene was pitiful. The veterans were ragged, ill-fed, and felt themselves badly abused. To suddenly see the whole encampment going up in flames just added to the pity."

 

Go ahead and trust .....................see what happens..

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Heard today that the obummer people are asking on their blog for people to ask for donations to his reelection campaign instead of gifts on bdays, weddings, bar mitzvah, etc

 

I heard that too that is soooo funny for a long time the media was saying he was close to having the first Billion dollar war chest to take on the mean ol' Repubs now theymake it sound like he in the poor house where is FOX NEWS, I would be all over this like stink on sh*t.

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I heard that too that is soooo funny for a long time the media was saying he was close to having the first Billion dollar war chest to take on the mean ol' Repubs now theymake it sound like he in the poor house where is FOX NEWS, I would be all over this like stink on sh*t.

 

 

it was reported on FOX NEWS around 2:00pm

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it was reported on FOX NEWS around 2:00pm

 

105.7 the point local morning shock jock show acotually, one of the things that I am truly enjoying is watching the local tv and radio personalities slowly, gingerly turn away from the "national corporate" news line on just how great obummer is, it gives me hope!

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hi all

nothing will change,as long as the controlers,control.other wise o damma would never made it.read all the tracks.don't get confused by the media.learn your foe's.learn who the puppet master really are.you only vote for the puppet.i promise i'm speaking the truth.be careful how you research.

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I was watching a old movie Hurcule poirot death on the nile peter ustinov was Poirot

 

anyway I looked him up on the net and he died but while he was alive he was very into a one world government

ticks me off I ever wasted time watching his movies I hope he has an unpleasant REST.

 

just goes to show that the world is full of them in every facet of our lives if we were to know we would be so parnoid we could not function.

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I heard that too that is soooo funny for a long time the media was saying he was close to having the first Billion dollar war chest to take on the mean ol' Repubs now theymake it sound like he in the poor house where is FOX NEWS, I would be all over this like stink on sh*t.

 

Not to show my political colors but....

 

If a president didnt bow to lobbyists and take huge corporate campaign donations, how else would the Pres raise enuf campaign funds? Ya ya... the pres. office alrdy has its own funds for campaigning, but this is really just a token amount.

 

If the Pres is publicly advertising for campaign donations, perhaps this means he isnt planning on pushing a corporate agenda in his 2nd term?

 

Then again... He's asking his own broke As F* country for charity... a lil ironic i think

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