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For the past couple of weeks I have been having some discomfort while eating. Chewing on the right side of my mouth became painful and I knew I would need to go to the dentist. I tried to put it off as long as I could, until the pain became acute. Then it was a matter of I had to go to the dentist.

 

Well to make a short story even shorter, I went to the dentist and he pull two of my lower teeth, gave me a script for antibiotics and pain meds.

 

In a SHTF situation I would have been in a real mess. I do not think that my wife could have pulled the teeth for me, and I could not have done it myself. Now, I would have had no problem in pulling her's or someone else's . I have all of the necessary instruments but none of the pain control meds nor lidocaine. To some extent one could use Oragel. This would still cause a lot of pain during the extraction then antibiotics would have to be administered.

 

To control bleeding you would use direct pressure after extraction on a piece of gauze til the bleeding slowed. Then you could use a moistened tea bag on the hole to stop the bleeding.

The tea contains tannic acid which will constrict the blood vessels. There are other things in nature which contain tannic acid such as hickory and oak trees.

 

Just think, what would you do in a SHTF situation and you have a bad tooth? No dentists around. Not a pretty picture.

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101matt, Thanks.

I would be interested in seeing that file. Can you give me the web site? I shudder to think what it would have been like in a SHTF situation. I have all of the instruments to do the job and can do the job if I had to however I can not do the work on myself. Also trying to figure out the best thing for pain management during and after in a SHTF situation.

 

I am not past soup and on to soft. Not too bad.

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VIS that's a good point. We keep going round saying get your medical and dental needs taken care of, but as always, putting it off. Glad you got it taken care of, will show this post to my other half. Untreated dental and periodontal infections are said to contribute to heart disease.

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There are a series of books (available as free downloads too) called "Where There Is No Doctor" and "Where There Is No Dentist". They are the most widely distributed medical reference in the third world, hands down. They are written for people who have NO medical training at all, and who may have no access to advanced medical equipment or drugs. I own both in hard copy, and you can go here for the free PDFs:

 

http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/

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I was in this situation a few years ago. On a week long camping trip over the 4th of July. Had an abcessed tooth, no dentists. But I had a big bottle of cheap vodka with, and everytime the pain would get unbearable, I would gargle with a mouthful. After awhile, I would gargle with it 'til my mouth was completely burning, then drink it down. Usually at night so I could sleep. Had to cut the trip short by a couple days. I've also heard that cloves work.

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I was in this situation a few years ago. On a week long camping trip over the 4th of July. Had an abcessed tooth, no dentists. But I had a big bottle of cheap vodka with, and everytime the pain would get unbearable, I would gargle with a mouthful. After awhile, I would gargle with it 'til my mouth was completely burning, then drink it down. Usually at night so I could sleep. Had to cut the trip short by a couple days. I've also heard that cloves work.

 

Yes, oil of cloves are supposed to work. Did not have any. The only thing I had was antibiotic. Amoxicillin which initially helped. I must have had an abscess and then the pain came on stronger. At that point I had to go to a dentist. He gave some pain meds and in about 5 min. had both teeth pulled. However, he broke one of the roots off. I could have told him what was about to occur but he had both hands in my mouth, then I heard and felt the SNAP. It was then decided to leave the broken portion instead of going in after it.

 

Now imagine what it would have been like without novacain and pain meds. Real bummer.

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There are a series of books (available as free downloads too) called "Where There Is No Doctor" and "Where There Is No Dentist". They are the most widely distributed medical reference in the third world, hands down. They are written for people who have NO medical training at all, and who may have no access to advanced medical equipment or drugs. I own both in hard copy, and you can go here for the free PDFs:

 

http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/

 

Somewhere I have an old copy of Where there is no Doctor. I do not have the other one. This is another reason to up date your survival library. It would best to have it on computer unless you have everything at your BOL, if you can get there.

 

Once your teeth go, well......you better have a good blender. Of course, Vodka is good also. You do not get all of the vitamins but if you drink enough, you do not care.

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There are a series of books (available as free downloads too) called "Where There Is No Doctor" and "Where There Is No Dentist". They are the most widely distributed medical reference in the third world, hands down. They are written for people who have NO medical training at all, and who may have no access to advanced medical equipment or drugs. I own both in hard copy, and you can go here for the free PDFs:

 

http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/

 

Thank you survivalcyclist for the link. I downloaded the Pdf's for my library. I appreciate you telling me about the books.

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Hi all,

 

Our new book "the Doom and Bloom survival medicine handbook" also addresses these topics and the premise of it assumes that there are no longer any hospitals and no longer any doctors or dentists, making you the end of the line when it comes to your family's medical well being. Even "Where there is no doctor" ends some chapters with "and go to the hospital".

 

Here's some of our articles on dental care:

 

http://www.doomandbloom.net/2011/10/collapse-dental-care.html

 

http://www.doomandbloom.net/2012/04/dental-trauma-part-1-fractures.html

 

Here's an article on treating the hemorrhagic wound:

 

http://www.doomandbloom.net/2011/09/treating-the-hemorrhagic-wound.html"

 

Dr. Bones

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dental is fairly easy to handle.. you will need lead a needle and some very small sort of drilling device,,,, preventive maintenance is the best..in a shtf situation you will want to take care of cavities quickly before they get into the pulp... use some creativity and thought on your part to think of a way to drill out the decayed part without going too deep and put lead on top of it... if your tooth is abcessed its more difficult and more painful...i know this because i have had a root canal without anesthesia and it was EXTREMELY painful and took 4 hours but yes it is possible.. a root canal is nothing more than drilling through the cap of the tooth then gutting your tooth out down to the roots... it will cause A LOT of pain once the air hits the open nerve for the first time.. and whoever the person is doing this will need a lot of time because you will only be able to manage one "stab" of the needle into the nerve before a min or so of rest each time ..each stab will kill a portion of the nerve but the patient will jump in pain each time but little by little the nerve will die but its a long process as first you will have to kill the pulp then the nerve all the way down into the prong of the tooth and time will need to be taken as to not put the person in shock... i was sweating profusely and shaking all over ..its a pretty rudimentary system really if you think about all the years a dentist has to go to school just to gut out a tooth....the tools to do a root canal look like nothing more than a small pipe cleaner and all they do is scrape out all the nerves... fill it full of something to kill any germs...fill it with something temporary to allow any more puss to seep out then fill with permanent filling

 

cuts are even easier... hydrogen peroxide alcohol betadyne and if sutures are needed use superglue... military has been using super glue for ages

 

medical is a bit more tricky as human body is so complex 1000pg book wouldnt be enough.. maybe buy a med surg book from med school student or nursing student and try to get some vet meds

 

other things id stock pile is iv caths and tubing and glassware for sterizing... if youre in a community make sure everyone knows their blood types...if someone gets hurt it would be nice to know 2 or 3 in your small community had o- blood (universal donor) or same blood type and you could get a pint or two back in the injured

 

probably more tubing if someone is unconcious how to rehydrate them or feed them .. you could always use saline but if their gut isnt working to hydrate and its a shtf situation they are gonna die anyways

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"Medicine for The Outdoors" http://www.us.elsevierhealth.com/Medicine/Emergency/book/9780323068130/Medicine-for-the-Outdoors/, from Elsevier Health, is a great reference book to bring along with you in your emergency first-aid kit. This book has literally everything you'll ever need to know in order to survive an emergency medical situation in the outdoors.

 

Unlike some other emergency survival books, this book is a really easy read. My brother bought it for me for my birthday and I read it in two days. I haven't gotten myself into any emergency medical situations (knock on wood) but I feel confident that I'd be able to handle almost anything thanks to this handbook. I definitely recommend it!

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