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How would you go about refilling a lighter with a common combustible liquid other than gasoline?

 

Yeah, that story about the Bosnian war survivor was interesting, and he said that he knew how to fill up lighters with some kind of liquid that wasn't gas yet burned, and how he used that skill to feed his family for a while. He also said how his neighbor could make his own form of gas that lit lamps and the neighbor never went hungry.

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As far as trading good go I'm gathering a lot of junk (That is what my wife calls it laughingly). Old tools especially will be worth their weight in gold. Without electricity my table saw, compound miter saw, band saw and scroll saws will be mostly useless. Right now you can buy handsaws at garage sales for almost nothing. There are a LOT of different kinds of saws and most people these days don't understand the difference. I bought an old auger and box of bits not long ago for 5 bucks. It was old and a little rusty but after a quick cleaning it was like new. I doubt that it had been used much, the augers were still real sharp.

 

I pick up every draw knife that I see and have made a couple myself for odd applications. A draw knife is a MUST have tool if you want to make handles for your tools. Old jack, box planes are worthless to most people now and I pick them up for a little of nothing. People act like a little fine rust hurts a tool but the fact is a light coating of fine rust protects the metal. I'm not talking about pitting and coarse rust. Before they blued guns they browned them. I have done that a lot of times for old tools and even did it to age a modern replica of an old gun. Piss on it...literally. Let it set for a while and turn rusty then wash it off, oil it and rub it with super fine steel wool. It will turn a deep chocolate brown color that protects the surface metal. Rust CAN'T rust because the iron is already oxidized and bonded.

 

I have about two gazillion hooks of all shapes and sizes. I pick them up on clearance for almost nothing. They will be worth a lot when you can't buy them at every convenience store. I think one hook for about 5 22lr shells would work. That one hook could provide a lot of meals and the 22lr are one use only things.

 

Sewing needles, heavy thread, sinew, leather lace and coarse nylon saddle stitching thread will be must have items along with the special tools for working leather and cloth. I could resole a shoe or boot if I had to and moccasins are a snap.

 

How too books are dirt cheap at flea markets and estate sales but priceless when you need to know how to do that old time stuff. Books in general will be an asset in a world where there is no TV, MPs, radio or Computers to entertain us.

 

Game things, like cards, dice and such will be of value again. Once you survive you will eventually want to start living again. Entertainment has always been a money making proposition. Into this I will also throw the various recreational drugs. Don't wish to debate the issue but people will ALWAYS be interested in their vices. When I say recreational drugs I MEAN the simple ones; Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol Marijuana and such not the complex things that people use to fry the minds of kids these days.

 

What do y'all think will be worth something after...

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Ammo will always be worth alot in a SHTF situation.

 

 

Yes, but .... you'd better know the person you're dealing with VERY well! Otherwise, once he has ammo for his weapon he might decide to 'sweeten' the deal in his favor.

 

If it is a good idea to be careful who you arm before TSHTF, and it is a good idea, then it is a very good idea to be careful who you arm after TSHTF.

 

Just my not so humble opinion.

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Yes, but .... you'd better know the person you're dealing with VERY well! Otherwise, once he has ammo for his weapon he might decide to 'sweeten' the deal in his favor.

 

If it is a good idea to be careful who you arm before TSHTF, and it is a good idea, then it is a very good idea to be careful who you arm after TSHTF.

 

Just my not so humble opinion.

 

Truer words could not have been spoken.

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iran, iraq, lebanon, china, pakistan, saudi arabia, afghanistan,etc have all been supplied by us at 1 point or another (I just listed some immediate enemies). I say any more "arms" shipments to the litterbox be at the end of an ICBM...LOL.

Some even say we supplied most of saddam's chemical weapons which he used on iran, then the kurds, and then we got hit with during the Gulf War when we were trying to knock out his bunkers and caches. Of course congress and the other idiots who set up these deals know they will be cowering under their desks and somebody else will be the ones facing it. Hell, we're in the "War On Terror" and they are supplying the muslim brotherhood (al qeda umbrella) with supplies and money. Aid and comfort to the enemy, especially during a time of war, I thought was treason?

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Does anyone still think that it is a good idea to trade arms and/or ammunition to people you do not know in a SHTF situation? The answer should be, "I have only a few rounds left for my family and I do not have enough to trade." What are people thinking??

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Common cense does not seam to be common anymore!

 

So if you have extra ammo KEEP it!...you will need it!!Trade for(GET) brass,say your making things with it!Dont say your reloading it!

I have a neighbor who is very friendley with the local leos,and shoots at the range they use.I talked him into sweeping up the brass for me,I gave him buckets and now have some quanity of different sizes!

 

Why do I want them when I dont reload/ He asked/..I use them to make KEY chains in my shop,and I may recycle them for cash!

I trade him some of my "Hobbie" stuff..Did I lie about it NO,do I have a plan for them in the future,Oh hell yes..Did he have to know what the real reason I want the spare brass.NO..Never tell your plans unless you Trust them with your LIFE!

Sorry about the Rant...

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Matt, you are completely correct about common sense. I think most people are using the gov't as an example for common sense and they should be the poster children for what NOT to do; especially in the fiscal responsibility department.

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I think you are looking at this from a rather odd direction. Working on your theory we shouldn't be able to find ammo NOW! This is a very liberal minded way to look at things. Protect yourself by denying others the ability to protect themselves????? I am going to be trading in the community that I live in. If my neighbor needs a little ammo and I have more of it than I need or it is in a loading that I have no use for WHY wouldn't I trade with him?

 

This sort of thinking is where the answer to bad people having guns is to make it so honest people can't have them. It doesn't effect the criminal he doesn't MIND breaking the law a bit. In general criminals don't buy guns or trade for them they STEAL them. If they trade it is dope for guns then later guns for dope. In a small tight community it is unlikely that a raider is going to show up and even try to trade. It just isn't in their nature.

 

A trading post is not like the local mall. It is a place where people in a community meet to swap what they have for what they need. The "Trader" is more of a middle man and expediter than a true merchant. Without trucks coming in from all over bringing him shipments from all over he will mostly be middle manning for his neighbors as much as anything else. Think of something like a farmers market where if you can't find what you need then you can leave what you have with the Trader and he will try and get what you want and take a cut.

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