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I mean look at all the mega issues facing Humanity:

 

•Economic Collapse : Fragilities in Earth’s global economy have tipped the Empire into conditions not seen since the 1930s Great Depression. Fascism and total war came from that last time.

 

•Peak Oil : Petroleum has powered Humans for almost 100 years; today, Humans are reaching a permanent peak in oil production against rising demand. Indeed, many wars have already been fought and a serious crisis is developing.

 

•Global Water Crisis : During the past 50 years the Human population has nearly tripled, while industrial pollution, unsustainable agriculture, and poor planning have decreased the overall water supply.

 

•Species Extinction : Certain species that Humans depend upon for their food supply are going extinct; if numbers fall too low Humans may face extinction themselves. Think GMOs.

 

•Rapid Climate Change : While the debate rages on about the causes of climate change, global warming is an empirical fact. The problem is both a curse and blessing, in that people from different Earth cultures will either have to work together or face mutual destruction.

 

•Population, disease, hunger, and resources: There’s actually room for more Humans, but not with the current social and economic structures and beliefs. Demands on diminishing resources by more Humans spells catastrophe.

 

•Radioactive waste, nuclear weapons, and core meltdowns: Over the last 50 years, Humans have accumulated thousands of tons of the most toxic stuff in the Universe. Humans aim weapons of this stuff at each other ON THE SAME PLANET, believing they could fire and it wouldn’t affect them too.

 

•Nanotechnology: The most dangerous technology humans have yet come up with. Coupled with some kind of artificial intelligence or ability to reproduce, this could spell the end of biological life on Earth and nearby planets.

Grey goo (alternatively spelled gray goo) is a hypothetical end-of-the-world scenario involving molecular nanotechnology in which out-of-control self-replicating robots consume all matter on Earth while building more of themselves, a scenario known as ecophagy ("eating the environment").

Self-replicating machines of the macroscopic variety were originally described by mathematician John von Neumann, and are sometimes referred to as von Neumann machines. The term grey goo was coined by nanotechnology pioneer Eric Drexler in his 1986 book "Engines of Creation", stating that "we cannot afford certain types of accidents." Ya think?

 

•War and militarism: Coupled with extreme weaponry that is widely distributed, these are the most polluting, destructive, inhumane practices on Earth. Why

would one think they could begin a nuclear war and it not have an effect on them?

 

  • Last but not least in any way: An Asteriod, "what if", talk about extinction. It happened once.

 

Anyone ever watch Population 0? I saw an episode last night. How much longer can we rape the earth before she shakes off the parasites?

 

I've just put out some usless drivel, haven't I? LOL

 

 

These scenario's are all possible. I'd made reference to Snake about this in another thread somewhere. All this disaster potential on Earth right now is enough to drive someone nuts. I’m going to get something good to eat and think about it later.

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You are not alone worrying about stuff that can happen. I was reading some updates on the status of the six nuclear reactors over in Japan that got crippled last year. Turns out that three of them actually melted down and they believe that they breached their containment vessels. Here is the side story that really perked me up!

 

The spent fuel rods are all being kept in a pool outside without much backup. If there were a sixth magnitude earthquake, it could breach that pool exposing the rods. The resulting radioactive cloud , because of prevailing winds, could be easily pushed to the western U.S. Scientists suggest that the western third of the U.S. would have to be evacuated. How is that for a "black swan" event?

 

Where would the people go? What about the loss of agriculture and manufacturing? Think our economy could absorb that blow?

 

Thats what I get for being curious.

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Hey, why waste today fretting about what might be? We will all die someday, somehow so it's just a matter of when and not if, right? Prepping to me is about securing the future for my family and those I care about. That said, I'm not going to waste the good times on worry and what not.

 

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst and enjoy every day as the gift that it is. Die on your feet then Vahalla awaits.

 

No worries here.

 

Wolfe

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Ah, DR, you've discovered that the earth is NOT your friend. Good ole' Mother Earth will KILL you just as dead as the dinosaurs or the amphibians that preceded them if you give her a chance. She has already taken a couple of swipes at us humans. Got all but about 4000 of us at one point.

 

With that as a background, I'd suggest we all support our local space program to get Homo Sapiens to as many places as we can before good ole' mom tries again. That way we will have a BOL that might survive a planetary collision or a solar nova or any of a series of other, shall we say, interesting events on a planetary or even cosmic scale. In the meantime, prepare to survive for the survivable events and try not to nominate yourself for a Darwin Award.

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Wouldn't an EMP from all the stockpiled nuke stop a grey goo? Kinda burning the henhouse to get the fox but at least we could die a little slower! A side from bannanas I can't think of a species that we are very dependent on thatis facing extinction, unless you consider all the food plants that will only br survivable thru continued hybrid cultivation if the push toward "heritage seed" farms doesn't continue and grow (although the seed companies do have these as well as the trendy farms already)

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Wouldn't an EMP from all the stockpiled nuke stop a grey goo? Kinda burning the henhouse to get the fox but at least we could die a little slower! A side from bannanas I can't think of a species that we are very dependent on thatis facing extinction, unless you consider all the food plants that will only br survivable thru continued hybrid cultivation if the push toward "heritage seed" farms doesn't continue and grow (although the seed companies do have these as well as the trendy farms already)

 

Sorry DonDon, but you lost me on this post.

 

EMP only affects electronics so I am not sure what you are driving at here.

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Sorry DonDon, but you lost me on this post.

 

EMP only affects electronics so I am not sure what you are driving at here.

 

In the initial post rat talks about the scenario in which nano machines that are self replicating go out of our control and devour all life and resources and eventually the planet itself.

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Ah, DR, you've discovered that the earth is NOT your friend. Good ole' Mother Earth will KILL you just as dead as the dinosaurs or the amphibians that preceded them if you give her a chance. She has already taken a couple of swipes at us humans. Got all but about 4000 of us at one point.

 

With that as a background, I'd suggest we all support our local space program to get Homo Sapiens to as many places as we can before good ole' mom tries again. That way we will have a BOL that might survive a planetary collision or a solar nova or any of a series of other, shall we say, interesting events on a planetary or even cosmic scale. In the meantime, prepare to survive for the survivable events and try not to nominate yourself for a Darwin Award.

 

LOL Capt. About the only award I'm worthy of would be the DumbAzz award. I can't remember sh!t, definitly

have to much time on my hands and have one heck of an imagination.:)

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Techiniquly, the human population will be destroyed when the sun burns all of its hydrogen, rapidly expands, and makes us the closest planet to the sun... if we as a species even maake it that far. If you look at the ammount of time humans have been on earth compared to the amount of time of many other species, we're still relativly new to planet earth.

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we already have self replicating freaks called extreme DEMOCRATS

 

I have seen them vote for a anti gun, anti death penalty. pro abortion, wing nut and they hated every one

of those stances and voted for them anyway and then they were B*tchin' about how they voted

in office, ain't that a kick in the head.

 

I vote for the stance and the person and the voting record sex and party who cares I just expect them

to walk the walk and talk the talk that they had before the election while they are in office.

 

I don't think abortion should be an issue I hate it but is this not a free country or is it.

I do not drink anymore but I do not care if others do just do not drive drunk.

quit smoking if people want to smoke there should be a smoking section.

want to make out get a room.

 

I cringe at all the people who want to make others do what they want but will not change

themselves. mini socialists.

I understand the housing home owners association if that's what you want fine

I live out away from that and by choice I want others to respect my space but we got some azzes

that wander around and was telling me that there is a leash law I said there in my fence.

they wanted to make an issue I walked off and called the other department and said a nut was loose

when they showed up I reported the other officer for harassment.

 

now they do not come around too bad I don't miss them.

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Snake,

I agree with the leash law! I think that all of those people should be on a leash so that the politician which they are beholden to can lead them around. And that we would know who's dog they are.

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Hey, why waste today fretting about what might be? We will all die someday, somehow so it's just a matter of when and not if, right? Prepping to me is about securing the future for my family and those I care about. That said, I'm not going to waste the good times on worry and what not.

 

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst and enjoy every day as the gift that it is. Die on your feet then Vahalla awaits.

 

No worries here.

 

Wolfe

 

this plus 150%

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Techiniquly, the human population will be destroyed when the sun burns all of its hydrogen, rapidly expands, and makes us the closest planet to the sun... if we as a species even maake it that far. If you look at the ammount of time humans have been on earth compared to the amount of time of many other species, we're still relativly new to planet earth.

 

If ever we live that long! I suspect we won't have to wait for the sun to become a red giant for homo sapiens to transfer to another plain of existence. Ultimately, the earth winds up inside the sun if we aren't snatched by a passing star system first (a real possibility) or we get nailed by a nearby hyper-Nova (a possibility) or get zapped by a gamma ray burster (probably the highest probability).

 

When I was a kid I used to lose sleep worrying about the ultimate death of the universe but I've gotten to where I no longer worry about billion year scenarios. The ultimate heat death of the universe is beyond anything I can remedy so I won't worry about it. Besides, I strongly suspect that I won't be here in 14 billion years or so.

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I have faith in God and Science both.

THe whole thing about the Earth being burned by the sun in 20billion years or whatever, is like...the ULTIMATE deadline to turn in your assignment :P

 

But look... I do believe that between God and Science; We would have found a way off this planet to infest another one.

 

If a ship full of settlers gets launched into space, the journey may in fact be so long that the original crew will be dead before reaching the destination. Think varying age groups and cryogenics. NASA is already using ION engines on new deep space probes. We can identify and observe individual Photon particals. We can observe the effect of Tachyon particles by using Germanium plating. Science is still in the very early stages of using all that 'Star Trek' stuff. butit is out there and we know about it. Its only a matter of time, and i dont think itll take a billion years to get there. It wontbe in my lifetime, but im ok with that :P

 

90% of practicing 'Science' is Observation. The other 10% is simply asking 'What If'

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