readytogo1955 10 Report post Posted May 5, 2012 That is why I record the last superball game,pull out the old barbecue,cooler,box of cheap cigars,turn off the phone and have a hell of a time, forget about science for awhile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desert rat 10 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 That is why I record the last superball game,pull out the old barbecue,cooler,box of cheap cigars,turn off the phone and have a hell of a time, forget about science for awhile. Ahhhh, after my own heart you are ready. Nothing like a good Cusano 18 and a Cutty on the rocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonDon 116 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 Ahhhh, after my own heart you are ready. Nothing like a good Cusano 18 and a Cutty on the rocks. Ready said CHEAP cigars! But I like your way better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Bart 113 Report post Posted May 6, 2012 Ready said CHEAP cigars! But I like your way better Cheap cigars, OK, but 'Cutty'?? Really???? OK, I started drinking scotch when I was 20 (a little under age but I WAS married at the time) and I started with Cutty, 4 yr old. By the time I was 22 the Australian ambassador to RVN introduced me (I'd been flying him around) to the concept of Scotch older than I was. At 63 it's a habit I can no longer afford but I don't drink cheap scotch much anymore. 12 yr old single malts are about the lower limit. At least for as long as I can afford them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Bart 113 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 I have faith in God and Science both. THe whole thing about the Earth being burned by the sun in 20billion years or whatever, is like...the ULTIMATE deadline to turn in your assignment But look... I do believe that between God and Science; We would have found a way off this planet to infest another one. If a ship full of settlers gets launched into space, the journey may in fact be so long that the original crew will be dead before reaching the destination. Think varying age groups and cryogenics. NASA is already using ION engines on new deep space probes. We can identify and observe individual Photon particals. We can observe the effect of Tachyon particles by using Germanium plating. Science is still in the very early stages of using all that 'Star Trek' stuff. butit is out there and we know about it. Its only a matter of time, and i dont think itll take a billion years to get there. It wontbe in my lifetime, but im ok with that 90% of practicing 'Science' is Observation. The other 10% is simply asking 'What If' Navy, DO NOT HAVE FAITH IN SCIENCE! It is a tool, a useful tool, one I really like to use but just a tool nevertheless. I am a "rocket scientist" (No, Really:cool:) but science is a process that progresses by discovering where we were wrong in the past. Many great minds have even committed suicide when their 'pet' theory of whatever was proven wrong. A tragic, needless loss because of a misplaced faith. I use science, I like science, I even (in general) trust science but I do NOT believe in science. I think the scientific method is a great tool for gaining knowledge about our universe and how it works. It is not the only tool, it is not perfect and it can lead to erroneous results. Sorry about the rant - I have run across way too many folks who should know better who think of science as some kind of deity. I have faith in science like I have faith in a hammer. When used properly, it is useful to accomplishing my purpose. That is as far as it can go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
101matt 17 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 Capt.Bart someone needs to start a thread on "A tragic, needless loss because of a misplaced faith." Most here have put Faith into many other things!They have failed and we paid a spirtual price for it. OOOps..sorry Its just that kind of morning! Ponder this! If we ever start beleving that "Dad" loves us no matter what we have done,it would make life a whole lot easyer! jmVERYho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desert rat 10 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 Cheap cigars, OK, but 'Cutty'?? Really???? OK, I started drinking scotch when I was 20 (a little under age but I WAS married at the time) and I started with Cutty, 4 yr old. By the time I was 22 the Australian ambassador to RVN introduced me (I'd been flying him around) to the concept of Scotch older than I was. At 63 it's a habit I can no longer afford but I don't drink cheap scotch much anymore. 12 yr old single malts are about the lower limit. At least for as long as I can afford them. Ahhh, but Capt Sir, A good cigar makes a bad scotch good. Some of my favorites are, Glenlivet, an 18 year old Single Malt. Glenfiddich 12 year old Reserve Single Malt, 1991 Cragganmore 20 Year Old Faultline Single Barrel Cask Strength Single Malt, (it hurts to buy this one just a little.) Keep this one/and a back-up in the bar for a sip on special days if ya know whut I mean. Ready said CHEAP cigars! But I like your way better Me too DonDon, my way that is. Couple of my favorite cigar sticks you'd find in my humidor: Cusano 18 Double Connecticut Zino Platinum Scepter (Pudge) Avo Domaine You'd also find some Partaga's, Padrons, Torano Exodus, Monte Christos, RomeoYJulietas and a possible Rocky Patel or two in my humidor. Gotta have a good even burn, good draw and good taste! I hate something you find a plug in, run burns and tastes like a brushfire...... DonDon, you're welcome to open my humidor anytime. Stay away from my Cohibas tho, they're the real thing. I just can't seem to smoke a cheap cigar, but I can sip on Cutty Sark. I cut my teeth on that back in the 70s. Kinda brings back memories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NavyVet_77 13 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 Sorry about the rant - I have run across way too many folks who should know better who think of science as some kind of deity. I have faith in science like I have faith in a hammer. When used properly, it is useful to accomplishing my purpose. That is as far as it can go. I didn't mean to make it sound like I though science was a 'deity'. God allows certain things in science to happen. Man has to figure out how to use science to get it done. And you're right, its a process of learning what went wrong. Failing 1000 times get that 1 good result, then duplicating that good result. Im not disagreeing with anything you said, maybe im just more optimistic in the potential of science to save our collective A$$ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desert rat 10 Report post Posted May 7, 2012 I didn't mean to make it sound like I though science was a 'deity'. God allows certain things in science to happen. Man has to figure out how to use science to get it done. And you're right, its a process of learning what went wrong. Failing 1000 times get that 1 good result, then duplicating that good result. Im not disagreeing with anything you said, maybe im just more optimistic in the potential of science to save our collective A$$ Maybe they/we should call it practicing science. You know, like in the medical proffesion it's called practicing medicine. Then no one would be dissappointed in outcomes. Just a thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonDon 116 Report post Posted May 8, 2012 (edited) Cheap cigars, OK, but 'Cutty'?? Really???? OK, I started drinking scotch when I was 20 (a little under age but I WAS married at the time) and I started with Cutty, 4 yr old. By the time I was 22 the Australian ambassador to RVN introduced me (I'd been flying him around) to the concept of Scotch older than I was. At 63 it's a habit I can no longer afford but I don't drink cheap scotch much anymore. 12 yr old single malts are about the lower limit. At least for as long as I can afford them. There in lies the catch, with age come wisdom, and with wisdom comes taste, the older I get the older the scotch has to be.......not a sustainable situation with 5 kids still at home, but I have a bottle of small batch Kentucky bourbon aging for the day the last one leaves, cause I'll need to tie on a goodooze to figure what to do next.......maybe I can paint before they start moving back in! Edited May 8, 2012 by DonDon Tied on a good one to type this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Bart 113 Report post Posted May 8, 2012 So instead of sacrificing people to the volcano in exchange for the volcano to not kill us all with thermodynamics we just stick to sacrificing to the Mayan sun gods in exchange for them not unplugging the sun? Sorry if I'm offensive to anyone but I couldn't resist. Grief, what I have I started???? DR, yep, good scotches all. I also like Laphroaig. http://www.laphroaig.com/ It is an island scotch and has a bit of the taste of diesel in it! Yeah, I know it is an acquired taste and I can't afford the 18 yr old very often. My bride doesn't even like me to drink it when she's around - says I smell like I've been working on the car and need a bath! No accounting for taste I guess. Navy, I didn't think you considered science a deity. It is just I've learned to be extremely careful with words. Folks like to use them to suit themselves and sometimes the results are really tragic. Auto, Sacrificing people, usually enemy warriors or virgins, to volcano or the sun is a tremendous waste of good people. (This is still a FAMILY site so we'll keep the virgin comments to a minimum, OK?) It also makes the enemy be a lot less likely to surrender. If my choice is to go out swinging or be forced to climb to the top of that stupid pyramid, I ain't climbing! Besides, they have to unplug the sun at night so we can sleep and it can recharge with the wind driven, green generators that the watermelons love so much. Haven't you been paying attention? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VIS 9 11 Report post Posted May 8, 2012 I know that we can find a volcano and warriors but, where will we find the other? LMAO Sorry, Capt. couldn't help it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod 10 Report post Posted May 8, 2012 I know that we can find a volcano and warriors but, where will we find the other? LMAO Sorry, Capt. couldn't help it. On your local grocers shelf is a product called "Virgin Oil". It will do in a pinch! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VIS 9 11 Report post Posted May 8, 2012 On your local grocers shelf is a product called "Virgin Oil". It will do in a pinch! Fantastic! What a save!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desert rat 10 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 What was this thread about again? LOL Autonomous!! I think it was scotch and cigars..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Bart 113 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 On your local grocers shelf is a product called "Virgin Oil". It will do in a pinch! OK, so what is "EXTRA" virgin oil?:confused: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod 10 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 OK, so what is "EXTRA" virgin oil?:confused: Extra is a virgin without additives. Same great aroma and keeping the fruity taste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonDon 116 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 Extra is a virgin without additives. Same great aroma and keeping the fruity taste. This thread is going way off the rails..... Or I just have a dirty mind! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod 10 Report post Posted May 9, 2012 This thread is going way off the rails..... Or I just have a dirty mind! Hey! Look up "extra virgin oil" in Google. I have defined it carefully and succintly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VIS 9 11 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 OK, so what is "EXTRA" virgin oil?:confused: Capt. Bart, Olive oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VIS 9 11 Report post Posted May 10, 2012 This thread is going way off the rails..... Or I just have a dirty mind! Both, but some times you can not help it. It's O.K. Rod made a great save. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites