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Does any body have any good experience or knowledge about setting up a rainwater roof runoff system for potable water?post-1995-13851497873458_thumb.jpg

 

I'm thinking one these 2000 gal. tanks with a modified downspout feeder and a filter on the spigot.

Any better ideas?

By the way, I will have a metal roof, and I'm in the Great Lakes region.

Thanks, NightOwl

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Not sure about the Great Lakes area, but you may want to look into your state and local laws about collecting rain water. Utah recently outlawed it, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if other states silently followed suit.

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Night owl , I use a catchment system for water usage . Water runs off the metal roof , into gutters , travels down PVC pipes leading to tank. As long as tank is lower than roof line gravity does all the work. To return water to house there is a electric pump then filters , which there are 4 of them each in line and filters are put in order of larger microns to lower microns to filter big particles to smaller ones . now to make it drinkable it runs to a uv light system which kills 99.9% of all micro organisms . Add chlorine to keep algae growth in check, and keep tank dark, sunlight is what makes algae grow. For the gutters they also make a trap which catches the leaves and other rubbish before allowing the water to go to tank

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Not sure about the Great Lakes area, but you may want to look into your state and local laws about collecting rain water. Utah recently outlawed it, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if other states silently followed suit.

 

Collection of rainwater is now illegal? Wow. Hadn't heard that. In Utah, none the less. So, is that because it's considered hoarding or is the govt entity trying to protect people from themselves again?

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I was looking at rainwater harvesting and came across this for Utah:

 

Statutes: Water is owned by the state. However the state passed Senate Bill 32 in 2010 which permits rainwater catchment for maximum capacity of no more than 2,500 gallons. There are several other restrictions, but the state engineer must grant the permit if all the conditions are met.

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I was looking at rainwater harvesting and came across this for Utah:

 

Statutes: Water is owned by the state. However the state passed Senate Bill 32 in 2010 which permits rainwater catchment for maximum capacity of no more than 2,500 gallons. There are several other restrictions, but the state engineer must grant the permit if all the conditions are met.

 

 

water is owned by the state???? they must be kidding.

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Utah has a use it or lose it law. Based on the fact that rain water is a public resource and no one person can store a public resource.

 

"failure to use the right can, and will, result in the loss of the right and reversion of the resource back to the

public for beneficial use by another."-utahbar.org

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One thing that I read - water that runs off a composite roof is not potable. It's good for irrigating, but there's a high risk that it collects toxins as it runs off the roof. I don't know that it's gospel, but worth thinking about.

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OK, I read the PDF that Nanaquilts linked. It doesn't limit you to 2500 gallons, it only limits your underground storage of collected rainwater to that size container. You can still use 55 gallon drums to store rainwater, and any number of barrels, as long as the water is stored on your property and it is used by you for 'useful and beneficial purposes on said property'. You cannot gather rainwater in bulk and then resell it to people for money, etc. You also can't gather rainwater on property you don't own or lease.

 

Nothing stated in that should affect any prepper who wants to catch rainwater and store it for personal use, unless they plan to have more than 2,500 gallon sized underground containers. In that case, yes, you would need to get a permit from the State Engineer's office.

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One thing that I read - water that runs off a composite roof is not potable. It's good for irrigating, but there's a high risk that it collects toxins as it runs off the roof. I don't know that it's gospel, but worth thinking about.

 

In urban areas this is absolutely true - don't use untreated runoff or you will be very sad. They spray for mosquitoes here in florida, and they do it with helicopters and trucks. Lots of that ends up on the roofs of buildings, even without rain/wind.

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Very good point, survivalcyclist. Mosquito spraying is just one of the many ways we get toxins in the air and into bodies of water. Things like this make me wonder what they do to make municipal water "safe" to drink around here since it is drawn from places like Lake Conroe. We are setting up a rainbarrel system strictly for watering the grass etc. in our back yard. I wonder if we can use it safely in our garden since we have a composite shingle roof?

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Texas Bill,

 

I pulled this from: http://www.twdb.state.tx.us/publications/reports/RainwaterHarvestingManual_3rdedition.pdf

 

"Due to leaching of toxins, composite shingles are not appropriate for potable systems, but can be used to collect water for irrigation. Composite roofs have an approximated 10-percent loss due to inefficient flow or evaporation (Radlet and Radlet, 2004)."

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Thanks for all the info guys, here's a link to a good page of rainwater collection systems I found-

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Water/Water.htm#RainWaterHarvestSystems

I can't believe Utah has water restrictions, I thought Utah was a "free" state???

Speaking of Freedom, check this out...

http://mercatus.org/freedom-50-states-2011/ranking-discussion

A very cool map of relative Freedoms state by state!!! My Indiana ranks #3 from the top!!!

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Does any body have any good experience or knowledge about setting up a rainwater roof runoff system for potable water?[ATTACH=CONFIG]673[/ATTACH]

 

I'm thinking one these 2000 gal. tanks with a modified downspout feeder and a filter on the spigot.

Any better ideas?

By the way, I will have a metal roof, and I'm in the Great Lakes region.

Thanks, NightOwl

Rain collecting tank most be certified for drinking water usage,or it will contaminate the water.

B)http://www.bae.ncsu.edu/programs/extension/publicat/wqwm/emergwatersuppl.html

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Please bury the tank:

 

freezing can crack it and in summer it can heat it up and cause a brewing effect.

 

but water is water it does not turn into alien goo it is just a matter of what your

 

best filtration would be and you can send it in to be tested now instead of waiting until

 

an emergency and not knowing your water quality or what you may need to do to filter it

 

look up my post on how to make and use MIOX or buy the chemical sodium chlorite to make

 

chlorine dioxide

 

here is a pic of a 400 gram container makes 7,000 gallons of pure water I have a formula

 

listed to mix this with distilled water and citric acid.

 

this is used by water treatment companies all across the U.S.A.

 

 

 

it kills or destroys all chemicals and insecticides as will as microbes and viruses and toxins

 

read about it as you can see it is as large as a large face cream container

 

I have it in a ammo can with powdered citric acid {needed for catalyst} chemical gloves mil surplus

and a orange canteen so I know what it is once it is mixed also the instructions for mixing printed

do not use or store in metal container.

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