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It has a surprise ending!

 

 

I was born in one country, raised in another.

My father was born in another country.

I was not his only child.

 

He fathered several children with numerous women.

 

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

 

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

 

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

 

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

 

My birth records were sketchy.

 

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

 

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

 

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

 

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

 

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

 

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

 

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes.

I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40's.

 

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

 

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

 

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

 

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

 

This bolstered my ego.

 

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

 

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

 

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

 

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free .

 

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

 

It was the free market, banks and corporations .

 

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

 

I called mine "A People's Campaign."

 

That sounded good to all people.

 

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

 

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world..

 

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities".

 

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

 

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

 

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

 

And then the world learned the truth.

 

Who am I?

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ADOLPH HITLER

 

If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!

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Kindred Spirits....Obozo and the paper hanger..

Just proves that people will buy into anything that makes them "FEEL" good..and part of something bigger than they are.

What Happened to the Indivualist of America?????

JMHO..

Very good post ..you got me.lol

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You forgot:

 

I outlawed firearms.

Nationalized healthcare and other "social services"

Expanded the national debt "spend my our way out of debt"

Increased government jobs.

Increase police power and limit privacy.

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Wonder what the world would have been like with out him. Russia could have filled the void but not many other countries with the potential to provoke a world war.

 

great thought. germany has had a history of stating conflict throughout european history so i think it would have just been another one of them up to something.

 

they are due for another conflict.

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Since the idea is to say that Obama and Hitler are virtually the same, let's at least get our Obama facts straight...

 

I was born in one country, raised in another.

Born in the U.S., lived for 5 years in Indonesia, was sent to live with his grandparents in Kansas.

 

 

My father was born in another country.

He's actually the seventh U.S. President for whom this is true. But is the concern that his foreign-born father wasn't from England, Ireland, or Canada (like the parents of those other presidents?).

 

I was not his only child.

He fathered several children with numerous women.

 

The point being...? I mean, if we can forgive Thomas Jefferson for having a whole second family among the slaves on his plantation, how is Obama (or Hitler) somehow better/worse for what an absentee father did?

 

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

Clinton was very close to his mother, much for the same reason. But at least neither of them broke down in tears over their "sainted" mothers, unlike President Richard Nixon.

 

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Lincoln's mother died when he was nine; Tyler's mother died when he was seven... And Obama's mother died in 1995, when he was 34 and she was 53 or 54. Is that "an early age"?

 

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

Actually, he speaks highly of his mother in his autobiography and has praised her publicly.

 

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy.

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

Um, the only people who were confused on this issue are the ones who apparently doubt that Hawaii is in the U.S. and that they issue standardized documentation for live births in their state.

 

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.Untrue. He grew up practicing NO faith because his father was absentee and his mother was somewhat opposed to organized religion. However, in Indonesia, he attended both Muslim and Catholic schools and was taught about both faiths while he was there. (Do keep in mind that he was sent back to the US at age 10.) He has talked about becoming Christian in 1985, what it meant to him, and why. I find it somewhat upsetting that people think they "know" whether his religious beliefs are sincere; isn't that between him and God?

 

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

Again, he "disguised" himself as someone who cared about them - implying that the author knows he was insincere. What gave him away - actually taking action on healthcare reform? The way he crossed his fingers when he signed the "Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act" or advocated continuing unemployment for people suffering in this economy? The way he forces his motorcade to slow down so he can yell insults at homeless people on his way to meetings?

 

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

**Gasp** You mean, he wasn't always President, like all of our other presidents were before him?

 

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

Didn't we already cover this?

 

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes.

I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40's.

Shocking, as most of our politicians start on a national stage, then eventually become mayor or a city council member.

 

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

Again, not an unusual trait for a politician. And while Hitler was able to talk his way into Austria he DID have some minor hiccups and resistance with some of the other European countries, as I recall.

 

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.This might actually be true of Obama, but didn't Hitler have a history of running that National Socialist Party of Germany or somesuch thing?

 

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

Descriptive, yet redundant.

 

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

This bolstered my ego.

Again, this seems like a prerequisite for any politician. If people won't come to see your speeches, it's unlikely they will vote for you. And having it bolster his ego seems, well, like a normal reaction.

 

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

Actually, he was critical of some of the decisions made in the CURRENT and ONGOING war of the time, not on the country's decision to sign an armistice agreement (which was Hitler's big rallying cry - Germany deserving her place in the sun and all that). And hey, Obama DID deliver on promises to bring the Iraq War to an end AND it was on his watch that Osama bin Laden was caught and killed.

 

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

It was the free market, banks and corporations.

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I don't see much evidence of Obama's "hate Republicans" or "hate the rich" advocacy. And Hitler didn't really go after the free market, banks, and corporations - he went after Jews and Jewish-owned companies. It's not really the same thing.

 

I called mine "A People's Campaign."

Then why did Sarah Palin keep referring to it as "that hopey-changey thing"?

 

That sounded good to all people.

Which explains why so many voted against him, attacked his heritage, disavowed his citizenship, made up lies about his religion, ranted about him being a Muslim-loving socialist, etc.

 

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

He was already a senator! That's not "outside." Also, it's not unusual for someone who gets a good national buzz going to make a move to run for president - and he got that by speaking at the previous election's DNC convention.

 

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world.

Unlike other politicians, who offer despair, a swift kick in the rear, and rocks for dinner if elected...?

 

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities."

Um, wasn't Hitler more about persecuting minorities, and how the Arayans were being threatened by them? And when, specifically, has Obama played the "persecuted minorities" race card?

 

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

And then the world learned the truth.

Dumbest sequence of descriptions/accusations here IF you are trying to link them to Obama - what new information do we have about him that we didn't before? How has he surprised anyone by his actions (or inaction)? And even if we're talking Hitler, this section states that he was "carefully guarding" his true nature... while fully revealing it in his writings, which anyone could have read and understood. That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

 

Look, I get that people hate Obama. But do you REALLY need to try to equate him with Hitler? Can't you just, I don't know, point out the aspects of his politics and policies that you disagree with? No wonder we can't have a civilized debate in this country, if it's acceptable to say, "Our current President is practically the most reviled, hateful dictator in the history of the world."

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It has a surprise ending!

 

 

I was born in one country, raised in another.

My father was born in another country.

I was not his only child.

 

He fathered several children with numerous women.

 

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

 

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

 

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

 

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

 

My birth records were sketchy.

 

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

 

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

 

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

 

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

 

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

 

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

 

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes.

I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40's.

 

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

 

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

 

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

 

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

 

This bolstered my ego.

 

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

 

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

 

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

 

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free .

 

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

 

It was the free market, banks and corporations .

 

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

 

I called mine "A People's Campaign."

 

That sounded good to all people.

 

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

 

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world..

 

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities".

 

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

 

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

 

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

 

And then the world learned the truth.

 

Who am I?

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*

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*

*

*

ADOLPH HITLER

 

If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!

 

Yes, I'm scared. I now it sounds like someone with a middle name of HUSANE.

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Since the idea is to say that Obama and Hitler are virtually the same, let's at least get our Obama facts straight...

 

I was born in one country, raised in another.

Born in the U.S., lived for 5 years in Indonesia, was sent to live with his grandparents in Kansas.

 

 

My father was born in another country.

He's actually the seventh U.S. President for whom this is true. But is the concern that his foreign-born father wasn't from England, Ireland, or Canada (like the parents of those other presidents?).

 

I was not his only child.

He fathered several children with numerous women.

 

The point being...? I mean, if we can forgive Thomas Jefferson for having a whole second family among the slaves on his plantation, how is Obama (or Hitler) somehow better/worse for what an absentee father did?

 

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

Clinton was very close to his mother, much for the same reason. But at least neither of them broke down in tears over their "sainted" mothers, unlike President Richard Nixon.

 

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Lincoln's mother died when he was nine; Tyler's mother died when he was seven... And Obama's mother died in 1995, when he was 34 and she was 53 or 54. Is that "an early age"?

 

Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

Actually, he speaks highly of his mother in his autobiography and has praised her publicly.

 

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy.

No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

Um, the only people who were confused on this issue are the ones who apparently doubt that Hawaii is in the U.S. and that they issue standardized documentation for live births in their state.

 

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.Untrue. He grew up practicing NO faith because his father was absentee and his mother was somewhat opposed to organized religion. However, in Indonesia, he attended both Muslim and Catholic schools and was taught about both faiths while he was there. (Do keep in mind that he was sent back to the US at age 10.) He has talked about becoming Christian in 1985, what it meant to him, and why. I find it somewhat upsetting that people think they "know" whether his religious beliefs are sincere; isn't that between him and God?

 

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

Again, he "disguised" himself as someone who cared about them - implying that the author knows he was insincere. What gave him away - actually taking action on healthcare reform? The way he crossed his fingers when he signed the "Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act" or advocated continuing unemployment for people suffering in this economy? The way he forces his motorcade to slow down so he can yell insults at homeless people on his way to meetings?

 

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

**Gasp** You mean, he wasn't always President, like all of our other presidents were before him?

 

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

Didn't we already cover this?

 

I became active in local politics in my 30's then, with help behind the scenes.

I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40's.

Shocking, as most of our politicians start on a national stage, then eventually become mayor or a city council member.

 

They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

Again, not an unusual trait for a politician. And while Hitler was able to talk his way into Austria he DID have some minor hiccups and resistance with some of the other European countries, as I recall.

 

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.This might actually be true of Obama, but didn't Hitler have a history of running that National Socialist Party of Germany or somesuch thing?

 

Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

Descriptive, yet redundant.

 

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

This bolstered my ego.

Again, this seems like a prerequisite for any politician. If people won't come to see your speeches, it's unlikely they will vote for you. And having it bolster his ego seems, well, like a normal reaction.

 

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy...

I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

Actually, he was critical of some of the decisions made in the CURRENT and ONGOING war of the time, not on the country's decision to sign an armistice agreement (which was Hitler's big rallying cry - Germany deserving her place in the sun and all that). And hey, Obama DID deliver on promises to bring the Iraq War to an end AND it was on his watch that Osama bin Laden was caught and killed.

 

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy.

I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

It was the free market, banks and corporations.

I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I don't see much evidence of Obama's "hate Republicans" or "hate the rich" advocacy. And Hitler didn't really go after the free market, banks, and corporations - he went after Jews and Jewish-owned companies. It's not really the same thing.

 

I called mine "A People's Campaign."

Then why did Sarah Palin keep referring to it as "that hopey-changey thing"?

 

That sounded good to all people.

Which explains why so many voted against him, attacked his heritage, disavowed his citizenship, made up lies about his religion, ranted about him being a Muslim-loving socialist, etc.

 

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

He was already a senator! That's not "outside." Also, it's not unusual for someone who gets a good national buzz going to make a move to run for president - and he got that by speaking at the previous election's DNC convention.

 

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope', together we could change our country and the world.

Unlike other politicians, who offer despair, a swift kick in the rear, and rocks for dinner if elected...?

 

So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities."

Um, wasn't Hitler more about persecuting minorities, and how the Arayans were being threatened by them? And when, specifically, has Obama played the "persecuted minorities" race card?

 

My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

And then the world learned the truth.

Dumbest sequence of descriptions/accusations here IF you are trying to link them to Obama - what new information do we have about him that we didn't before? How has he surprised anyone by his actions (or inaction)? And even if we're talking Hitler, this section states that he was "carefully guarding" his true nature... while fully revealing it in his writings, which anyone could have read and understood. That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

 

Look, I get that people hate Obama. But do you REALLY need to try to equate him with Hitler? Can't you just, I don't know, point out the aspects of his politics and policies that you disagree with? No wonder we can't have a civilized debate in this country, if it's acceptable to say, "Our current President is practically the most reviled, hateful dictator in the history of the world."

 

I would say that Jimmy Carter should hold that honor but this guy is a close second.

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Yeah, the whole birth certificate thing was put to bed a long time ago, but persists as a myth. One thing I would like to point out about the surprising actions thing, the whole Signing Statements that he campaigned against. I recall watching him go on a couple rants about it while I watched TV in the mess hall. I'm sure there's a bunch more, like most any president.

 

I thought it was funny that everyone think he just came out of no where. He was a senator at state level since the mid 90's if I recall. On the other hand when I heard he was running I was like "Who?" Maybe it's because I live under a rock, or because I don't live in Illinois, but until that moment I had no idea who he was, and I knew a lot of other people who were the same way.

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The Obama apologists always forget to mention that he has been such a great leader, governing with executive order rather than legislation. And he's been such a wonderful Christian man sitting in Rev Wright's church for 20 years listening to his "pastor" "G. Damn America". (I could care less about a man's religion, but I hate phoneys). And his stent as a Senator from Ill. lasted closer to 2 years or so. No, in the 90's he spent his time learning our emerging brand of American Marxism at the feet of his neighbors, the same good folks that bombed the pentagon. And let's not forget that he has added oh, roughly 35% to the national debt in 3 years (I know, I know, that was all George Bush's fault), lost millions of jobs because no one wants to hire people for fear of what socialized medicine is going to do to their small business, and that he has waged his class warfare on the productive people of this country...and he seemingly arises each morning to figure out a new way to trample on the U.S. Constitution. Yeah, what a great leader and President.

 

I could go on and on but it's a waste of time.

 

I have no problems with liberals, but I detest Marxists. (I think...maybe... there is still a difference)

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Thats what I like about this forum, so many diverse opinions. Its nice to see people unafraid to speak their minds without fear of repercussion. Some day in the future we may lose that.

I don't know if comparing Obama to Hitler is fair,at least at this point. But I have to admit that he does scare me, from what I know about him he is an elitest in the common mans guise. The fact that Pelosi and Reid are two top cronies is really scary.Add the top union leaders ,Soros, and other socialist to the mix and it just can't be good.

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i dont hate obama. just dont agree with his way of governing....but i didnt get elected, dont want the job. i dont think he is hitler either...... i think he is jimmy carter and woodrow willson mixed with a little al sharpton....not a mix id follow into battle. i dont think he is evil, just wrong.

i think his idea of "throw more money" at EVERY problem that arises is akin to a camper thats caught in a blizzard deciding to put ALL the wood on the fire at once. it'll get you really warm for a bit, but when its all burnt........

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So America bought a "NEW CAR" with out looking under the hood.OOOOOOH Shiney and Its new may be It will do what the "SALESMAN "said it would do.Oh and I know I told the "SALESman " that I could not afford it but he got it approved by the BANK at only 23% interest.

 

America has lost its Mind...and Common sence is LOST.

Obozo is a Marxist Commie that will cause a war to stay in office,its about Power and Money.

 

If I was sitting in ANY Church and the so called Pastor used Gods Name in Vain to make a point.Well he would have been slaped for saying it in front of my Children.

JMHO

 

Orgeonchick I still love you..lol thanks for the other view we need Balance just to make sure I dont get all Red neck.lol

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Look, I get that people hate Obama. But do you REALLY need to try to equate him with Hitler? Can't you just, I don't know, point out the aspects of his politics and policies that you disagree with? No wonder we can't have a civilized debate in this country, if it's acceptable to say, "Our current President is practically the most reviled, hateful dictator in the history of the world."

 

Your reference to Thomas Jeffereson is bad b/c liberals have been slamming him for years. No where near forgiven.

 

Hitler was far more honest about what he wanted to do and fullfiled his rehtoric than Obama - so you could differenciate them that way.

 

Maybe they are different...... outside of gun control, nationalization of public services, workers unite rehtoric, and focusing the problems of nation on a small group of the populous.

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Mr. Obama's US Senate voting record is PUBLIC RECORD, and per that record, it should be moted that he-Obama voted for every single Bush spending increase, as well as tax increases. Yet he consistently blames Bush for the mess HE inherited, yet it's factually proven that Obama helped the "mess" grow unchecked, ergo' he IS responsible for this mess.

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Maybe they are different...... outside of gun control, nationalization of public services, workers unite rehtoric, and focusing the problems of nation on a small group of the populous.

 

Gun control? I don't remember that being something that Obama either campaigned on or has acted on. Am I missing something?

 

I do admit some concern with the "workers unite" thing... There have been some pro-labor laws that have been passed or come close to it that are just flat-out terrible for business and not even particularly helpful for workers.

 

But see how I can say that without having to equate him with Hitler? That's how political discourse is supposed to go. That way, you can actually talk about IDEAS and maybe even figure out COMPROMISE that works.

 

If you go to the absolute worst name-calling, there's no way for either side to give in or back down. As Sun Tzu said, "Give your enemy a golden bridge to retreat upon." It's a far more successful method than verbal annihilation. We're ALL Americans, right? So we ALL have a vested interest in finding ways to make our country work. Why can't we focus on that as a shared foundation, and see what we could build from that, rather than doing... this? It cheapens what our Founding Fathers tried to make possible for us.

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OC: I appreciate some of the points you've made. However, when it comes to discourse, it is the President that you support that is responsible, more than anyone else, for the class warfare (read "discourse") in this country today. He is a hate-baiting elitist determined to destroy capitalism.

 

As far as gun control goes, read up on Atty Gen Holder and his comments of just a few days ago.

 

And you have to realize that the mouthpiece of the left is MSNBC. Watch that display of "discourse" over a night or two. The left and their hate is sickening. A bunch of smarmy brats, trying to be bigger a$$holes than Keith Olberman.

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We're ALL Americans, right? So we ALL have a vested interest in finding ways to make our country work. Why can't we focus on that as a shared foundation, and see what we could build from that, rather than doing... this? It cheapens what our Founding Fathers tried to make possible for us.

 

I get what you're saying, but... Americans are brash, boisterous, and obnoxious as a whole. We say what's on our minds more often than we should, and lash out at anyone who doesn't agree with us. I don't see it as a problem really, it's part of who we are and how we do things. I guess one could say it's part of our cultural identity. Why sugar coat your thoughts?

 

Anyone who's traveled to the middle east can tell you how well a system where no one every really says what's on their mind works.

 

As far as Hitler being the worst? I don't know about that, maybe the most well know, take a look at Hirohito and his actions/actions he enabled in china if you want to see some real nasty.

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