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It's fairly important to me, but I've managed to stay in pretty good shape most of my life.

 

What I do to keep my body working varies by the seasons. Spring summer and fall I like to be outside, so I tend to stay pretty fit being out walking the trails, swimming, hauling wood, and some occasional weight training and jogging during the slow periods. During the winter when things get more hectic and I have less time to get out of the city I tend to jump on an elliptical machine, and throw some iron a couple days out of the week just to keep the edge.

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I just started getting back in the gym in January, but so far its been alot of circuit training(1-3 times a week), yoga 2 times a week, and running or elliptical 2-3 times a week. It's slow at work this time of year, otherwise I wouldn't have the time. Being more fit than I am is important as I need to lose about 25 lbs. Also been running with my dog when it's not too cold out.

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Well Rick that is a good subject to bring up, just the other night my wife and I were talking about prepping, canning foods, ammo, BOL and a few other things, when she said to me, what are going to do about getting in shape. Thats just kinda stunned me for a second and I told her that was a good questions. So we are going to convert back to the good ole days of PT 3 times a week. What the paln is now is to put our BOB's on and walk for a mile or so to start with, then build the distance up once we feel that we can. We will also be doing push-ups, sit-ups and we are thinking about joining the YMCA also. We were members a few years ago but just stop going. So that is our plan

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I know there is a big to do about crossfit, but it has very big flaws. 1; it is not for everyone. If you can't do one pullup scaling down doesn't matter, not too mention a deadlift or overhead squats. 2; If you can't get to a offical gym your body mechanics may be off and that is a recipe for pain and maybe serious injury. 3; How can you ever get good at something if the last time you were perscribed to run it was a year ago. I just checked the crossfit site and the last time todays workout was done was in 2010.

I have been a runner for pretty much my whole life. I suggest running, that is scalable,... runner's world has a great routine called iron strong, or iron ...something (I forgot) but it is one of the best calesthenic workouts I have seen. And that style is perfect for survival. I might not be able to lift 300 lbs but I can run for 12 miles. which is better in a survival situation? I go for distance.

Anyway, whatever you do make sure it is functional.

DesertRat

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Due to a knee and back issue, I cannot run. Not that I would want to. I absolutely hate it. I have a 3-mile walk that I try to do 3x per week, sometimes more, sometimes less. I need to loose 15 lbs, but why lie? I hate exercise when the purpose is just "exercise". I try to find other ways to accomplish it. That's why I hate winter...I need the golf course...I walk it, and at 55 years old, I still carry the clubs on my back. My G.C. is pretty hilly so it's a better work out than most would ever give credit. Oh, and lots of s&x is good for the heart. At least that's what I keep telling my wife. LOL

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Just thought i would jump into this thread. In college i was as fit as i could ever be. I ran 5 miles a day and ate and drank anything i wanted. could not gain weight if i tried. That was sixty pounds and many years ago.

I can run but i chose not to. The old knees ache for days afterwards. The only time i run is during a heart stress test i do every 2 years. I walk and hike. I climb mountains and hills for strength and endurance. If you are over 40 get yourself to the doctor first. Have that ticker checked out before you start a new exercise. Dont worry over what you can do. Start where you are. As i told my mother after knee surgery-- walk to the mailbox today, then the neighbors mailbox tomorrow, then 2 mailboxes up. just add a little every day. Walking and hiking or probably the best us over 40 crowd can do for our health.

Hey MikeE. keep it up. I ain't fast but i got your six covered.

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Started lifting weights and jogging forty one years ago. Over that time I have had some real ups and downs. I have had multible surgeries on my knees so now I walk 2-3 miles 3-4 times a week, I could still jog but it will just push me to a knee replacement that much sooner.

I love weight lifting but at 58 you really have watch your joints. If you are getting joint pain you are training too hard for that joint. But don't give up ,find a way to train around it.

Awake has some good advice in his post, if phyisical training is new to you get checked first and do some reasonable goal setting. It is always a great feeling to set a goal and reach it then set it higher.

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I've heard the question about which is more valuable for field activity/survival. Some folks seem to assume that the only effect weight training has if building bulk and power, which isn't necessarily true, or that running will give you better over all health which isn't particularly true either. It mostly has to do with your training plan.

 

My personal opinion on the matter is that free weights do more for me, and I'm not a big guy, quite the opposite. But a good full body weight training system helps support good circulation, in muscle energy storage, and oxygen/energy efficiency. Running only really helps with running in my experiences, whereas adding some weight training will help with your running by developing the muscles you rely on. A better survival oriented cardio would be "road marching" or backpacking to distance with a loaded pack. Once you can make 15 miles with a 70lbs pack you're doing pretty good.

 

As for running with banged up joints, avoid concrete and tracks. Get some trail running shoes and get out on the dirt and grass trails, that helps take a lot of the pain out of it. Shoes are a big thing when it some to running anything more than 2 miles, they'll protect your joints from impact as will learning the right way to run.

 

Something that shouldn't be ignored is proper stretching, a flexible body is more efficient and less injury prone.

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i am working on improving my physical health. in october i had a gastric bypass surgery and since last february i have lost over 100lbs. with the addition of the ankle braces i purchased yesterday, my plan is to start walking. i still have about 75lbs to go to hit my ideal, but im getting there. my husband had gastric bypass last march and altogether has lost over 200lbs. physical health has become very important to me, as i am trying to cut down on the amount of medications i take. i know that some conditions of mine i can do nothing about except medication but i am working on those that i can do something about.

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Guest kevin

important enough for me to drop 60 pounds in the past year. hit the hills around the house for 30 min to an hour a day. no dairy(cept greek yogurt) LOW bread, HIGH lean protein. problem solved. oh yeah, quit smoking too.

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I've heard the question about which is more valuable for field activity/survival. Some folks seem to assume that the only effect weight training has if building bulk and power, which isn't necessarily true, or that running will give you better over all health which isn't particularly true either. It mostly has to do with your training plan.

 

This is absolutly true. Running helps runners. I add pull-ups, push-ups, burpees, and many other functional body weight exercises in my training, but running does take up the bulk of it though. I will end by saying whatever routine you chose make sure your exercises use the most muscle groups possible for each move. The human body works togther like the perfect machine that God made it (until we blew it), no muscles ever work in isolation in real world work.

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This is absolutly true. Running helps runners. I add pull-ups, push-ups, burpees, and many other functional body weight exercises in my training, but running does take up the bulk of it though. I will end by saying whatever routine you chose make sure your exercises use the most muscle groups possible for each move. The human body works togther like the perfect machine that God made it (until we blew it), no muscles ever work in isolation in real world work.

DesertRat

 

Very well said, that's why I advocate using a core of full body lifts if you're weight training (deadlifts for example) and compound movements if you're doing body weight work. You can get the whole body working together in unison so you have good full body fitness. I've known a lot of guys who only did "body builder" workouts and were prone to injury because their arms could handle lifting that two hundred pound bag, but their backs or legs couldn't.

 

God I hate push ups, but they work a lot of different muscle groups and make a good staple in any fitness program.

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Due to a medical condition my weight flucuates quite a bit. But physical fitness if very important to me, evenn though I have been slacking pretty bad the last couple of months. I don't believe in the fitness center mentality, standing in front of the mirrow during curls. Keeping yourself in shape so that your not winded going up a flight of stairs is important. I am grateful that my job keeps me moving all day long. When I can i lift and get on the treadmill a few times a week...nothing hardcore.

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staying in shape can be important.

 

like the joke about the two guys running from grizzley bear. one looks over and says "you know we cannot out run this bear", other guy says "I am not trying to out run the bear".

 

sounds corny buy could be very true as weak always get culled first. if you are dedicated then i would recommend "grease the grove" style of training. similar to boot camp but in essence you find a few exercises - pull ups, push ups, and run or walk.

 

do an easy level every day and several times for the push ups / pull ups. if you can do 10 pull ups two orthree times a day - wake up, lunch, before dinner then you can do at least twice that many in one maximum attempt. same with running. get good at doing 2.5 or 5 miles at least twice a week and you can run 10 if needed.

 

most peopleget burned out b/c of severe fatigue or injury. this keeps that a min and makes you feel good too.

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Unless you plan to be running away carrying nothing, I dont think long distance running is practical training. Weighted squats combined with route marches are great if you plan to be walking long distances with your BOB.

 

If you arent a fan of running but still want to get a cardio workout, burpees are great. If you dont know what burpees look like, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps

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I think moderate-good fitness/strength is paramount and up there with organizing supplies/gear. No point getting everything together if you can't carry it or don't have the fitness to go anywhere with it! I'm a bit of a fitness nut myself, so make sure I squeeze in an hour a day, 5 days a week at the gym - weights and cardio. If you are gonna go down the getting in shape road, make sure the weights you do are practical for everyday situations - Good/core exercises should form the basis of anything (weighted pull-ups, press ups, military presses, deadlifts, burpees, squats, lunges etc.). Nutrition is important too, no point trying to get in shape if you're just gonna eat crap! Anyways, thats my 10 cents!

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Nutrition is important too, no point trying to get in shape if you're just gonna eat crap! Anyways, thats my 10 cents!

 

An oft overlooked aspect of it. Have to make sure you're eating the right things to feed physical development. Some weight loss diets run counter to that, just putting that out there.

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Some do indeed run counter. Something to consider is the Paleo-Diet. Basically, the idea is that is the item of food was around 1000 years ago (and comes from the ground/water/land) then it's good to eat. Although a bit too extreme for me (and no doubt lots of others), it brings up the idea of getting your body out of relying on processed foods, and getting used to eating natural/whole foods. It's been noted that people who have had a lot of processed food in their diet go through a shock, and often become sick, following going cold turkey on such foods. If the preverbial really were to hit the fan, I doubt processed foods would last for long before you need to start on naturally occuring foods. Maybe you'd have no access at all to them once your supply is gone. Last thing you'd want is to get sick in such a situation, so perhaps if you are one of those who eat processed foods, start weaning yourself off them! Just a thought, anyways...

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Unless you plan to be running away carrying nothing, I dont think long distance running is practical training. Weighted squats combined with route marches are great if you plan to be walking long distances with your BOB.

 

If you arent a fan of running but still want to get a cardio workout, burpees are great. If you dont know what burpees look like, watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGljX4bbps

 

i stick to weight training like you talk about.

 

i do run five miles once or twice a week as the weather allows

 

once a monthi run 10 just to know that i can.

 

having the mental edge to go and do it can make it possible to twenty if needed when only training for 5.

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When it comes to physical conditioning for prepping I tend to look to the experts in preparing people to survive. I don't much worry about the latest and greatest, I just note that the military has been getting folks into 'fighting trim' for a few hundred years and may know a thing or two about what works. Army Conditioning Drill 1 ( http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fportal.utpa.edu%2Fportal%2Fpage%2Fportal%2F55872F7539CF6949E044000E7F4F73A4&ei=Qd1HT9OFEPKssALwh43rCA&usg=AFQjCNHZnFAAzMS2yHbqsx1hzw0mcMiSVA ) brought back fond memories of dreaming about choking the life out of one Drill Sargent Maxie, God Bless Him - where ever he is.

 

I completely agree with getting to the doctor first. My only quibble was the 'over 40' part. We loses high school kids every year to some hidden ailment during PE. Tell your doc you're starting a training program to walk the Allegheny trail and want to make sure you don't harm your health. That will give him an idea of the condition you want to be in without labeling yourself as one of those prepper wing nuts from TV. Then let him set reasonable limits for you to work within.

 

Get in shape now when it is inconvenient or get in shape later when it is nearly impossible and a matter of life or death. The choice is ours.

 

Just my not so humble opinion.

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