The Quiet Patriot

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    Retired veteran with 26 years in the Army. 10 years in the Infantry and 16 years in Special Forces.
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    Survival, Preparedness, Constitution, Bill of Rights
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    pine resins

    Great information! Here in the Southeast you can find "lighter Knot" which is the heart of a old pine tree stump. The resin settles in the stump over time. You may have seen fatwood sticks for sell in stores, these are basically the same thing. So when you are out in the woods look for old pine stumps and use your axe, hatchet or knife and hack into the heart of the stump. You can cut of pieces, cut off shavings and place them in a small container and keep with your fire starting kit.
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    WROL/SHTF Does Not Equal WAR

    Capt, I totally agree that an individual does not need an automatic, crew served weapon like a M249 SAW or larger. You are very correct when discussing the needs of an individual while hunting. A hunter in the South east would not need a 300 WM but will use a .243 or .270 a lot. While a hunter in the rocky mountains or near Canada will more than likely need a larger caliber to take down that Elk, Moose, or Grizzly. So your addition of researching where and what you will be using it for is a perfect addition. Logistics that will apply for any individual after SHTF type scenario is "battle Field" resupply. By this I mean scrounging, scavenging and searching known locations for food, water, ammunition, transportation, etc. A proper mind set will help you achieve almost anything you desire. When you add training, skill and determination you can survive most scenarios. Quiet Patriot
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    Another great use of a carabiners is as a pully device. You can attach two to an upper part of a tree branch (ensure it is a big branch that can support some weight) and another on the lower trunk. So when you need to pull something heavy upward it will double your pulling power. Depending on what you need to get accomplish you can also do this horizontal to assist pulling stuff up a ledge, along the ground, etc.
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    Hiking Food Discussion Thread

    Delta7, MRE's can take up some space in a small 3 day assault type pack. While I was in a Long Range Surveillance Unit we carried everything we would need for about 7 - 10 days in our rucks. So we came up with the idea of actually breaking down the MRE out of the bag. Basically, you will need some type of tape (1 inch duct tape is great), open your bag and remove all items out of their cardboard containers. Then neatly stack the items on top of each other and tape them together. This will greatly reduce the space it occupies. I have found out I could put 2 broken down MRE's in the same space as 1 in the bag. Now for some needed information. I would not break them down until you actually need to utilize your BoB. (you can do this while on the move or right before you leave your vehicle (foot movement). The reason is they store a lot better sealed in the thick plastic bag over time than just the tin foil type pouches. Second, do not throw away the plastic bag because you can use it to keep things dry, carry water, etc. Also the card board containers make good kindling for fire making. Third, so if you are not going to break them down until actually needed, you might ask how can i fit them in my bag? I wouldn't put them in my bag. I would keep them in a container like a rubber maid action packer near my BoB if it is my house or put a few in my vehicle. I have a 8 gallon action packer in my FJ that I use for various things. By doing this you can easily replace the older ones with out unpacking your BoB. One last note on MRE's, if you are traveling with a large family and need to carry a substantial amount of MRE's in a bag to quickly load into your family BoV try using a standard army duffel bag that has the shoulder straps you can pack in about 45 MRE's in it. Quiet Patriot
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    Winterizing your stuff.

    Capt, They would not be good in that temp range. Your best bet is find a decent pair that has thinsulate (200 gram or less, the sorrels are 400 gram) and gortex (if you want water proof). Add a nice thick pair of smart wool when the temps fall. Remember the best defense against cold feet is movement. If possible avoid too much movement that creates sweaty feet under the socks. But sometimes you are just gonna have cold feet. I am a Texas boy also, grew up just north of S.A. I had a sharp learning curve with the cold weather also. I have had to sleep with my canteens many of times to keep them from being too frozen.
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    Foot care

    When taking care of your feet during a long movement or just weeks in the field, you also must trim your toe nails. Some people forget about this. If your toe nails are too long, they will get pushed back against the cuticle and it can become sore or inflamed from constant pounding. This is of course tied to all the other good points already mentioned, dry feet (foot powder), proper fitting boots, broken in boots, proper socks. Socks are also very important as some of you have mentioned. I personally have used Army issued green wool (thin type) socks all the time in the south east, north west, central america, korea, etc. The army wool socks are thin enough to let your foot breath compared to the thick hiking wool type. Another trick of the trade is to wear a tight fitting sock liner (poly pro, thermo lite, etc) This will wick away moisture from your feet and also create a abrasion barrier between your foot and the loose wool sock. Your feet will definitely seat wearing wool and the liner so regularly change your socks and powder your feet. I had a good friend who never wore any socks in his jungle boots or desert boots. It takes some time getting your feet used to this but it takes away the wet sock factor. Remember if you get wet socks, stop dry and powder your feet, then change your socks. So when planing a week in the field bring at a minimum of 7 pairs of socks if not more. Without your feet you are dead in the water/on the trail. Even in artic conditions you will need to change every day. Your feet will sweat in those Vaper Barrier boots or thick insulated boots. If you are down in florida and crossing a lot of streams or bogs, take off your socks and just wear your boots. Finding a good pair of boots for wet terrain is also important. You dont want a thick cushioned type of boot, this type will become a sponge when submerged. Look for a type like a jungle boot. It was developed for a wet environment. Great advice guys, I love this site.
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    How Organized are You?

    CCSir, I totally agree about knowing where your stuff is and how to get to it. A layered plan and organization is key for me. I know what I will do no matter what location I am at. If I am away on a trip, it will take more physical and mental ability to get to my stuff than if I was just driving to work or at the house. So tailoring my EDC, BoB, Get home Bag, etc to my daily activities or routine is key for me to stay organized. Great post.
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    WROL/SHTF Does Not Equal WAR

    I forgot to mention some information on the tactic of Ambushes. A proper ambush is doctrinally at least 35 meters away. We used to distinguish between a far ambush and a near ambush but in reality an ambush is an ambush if properly executed. By that I mean, if it is set up correctly, you will cause the enemy the most amount of damage and casualties. I always taught my students to be 35 meters away from the intended road/trail that you plan on ambushing. One reason is that it is at the far edge of hand grenade range (if it is wooded, then no where near the hand grenade range, the trees will hinder the throw). Plus the basic tactic of assaulting through the ambush to get behind it is mute because you will have to assault 35 meters into a well laid, intersecting fields of fire (not to mention claymores). I wont go into the details any further for good reasons. If unable to assault through, you must either move out of the kill zone or gain fire superiority. I personally have been in an ambush designed to wipe out my whole patrol. We survived by gaining fire superiority with our organic weapons. Almost rain out of ammo before the enemy broke contact prior to the close air support arriving on station. The last thing I want to add is having a positive survival attitude. If you already accept defeat in your head before you are in a situation then yes you are already dead. But if you always have a SOP (standard Operating Procedure) for your SHTF or what ever you do, you will be 2 steps ahead of the ones attacking you. Being prepared is what survival is about. It begins with your best and strongest survival tool, ..your mind. Read some stories about the POW's in Vietnam and you will see what is achievable with just your mind alone. Amazing people. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Quiet Patriot
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    WROL/SHTF Does Not Equal WAR

    To me SHTF= Survival and War=Survival. In both cases there are several different factors but the ultimate goal is to survive. First and foremost I want to say no matter what type of weapon you own, a well placed aimed shot far superior to rapid pr automatic fire. Second I want to say is if one intends on caring a rifle, shotgun or pistol, he better learn the right way and become very efficient in the use. What I mean by that is, hit what you aim at and have good fundamentals in the shooting. It really does not matter what type of rifle you choose to use, sometimes you dont have a choice (finding a rifle by scavenging), but to know how to maintain it, shoot it and where to find ammunition for it. This comes to my second point on that, finding a rifle chambered in a .300 WSM or a .270 WSM is gonna be useless in the long run compared to a AR in .223. The abundance of ammo in these specialized calibers are very few and far in between. Trying to stock pile this ammunition will be expensive ($50 a box). So when looking for weapons, research your local, regional and national area and figure out the type of ammunition available for resupply through different means. Then go buy a weapon you are good with in those calibers. Basically, .22, 30.06, .308, 30-30, .223 and .243 or .270 would be good choices. You can find these in bolt action and a some in AR's. .22 is a great choice for practice and small game hunting, also can be very quiet if you use sub sonic ammunition.For pistol I would use either .45 or 9mm, the later is what I use, world wide availability. For a shotgun I would use 12 ga. Again world wide availability and multitude of ammo types. I have used an AR platform for over 26 years and never had any major issues when it comes to maintaining it. When you get to know your rifle you will learn the detailed knowledge of the working parts. The AR platform is actually quite simple. Remington makes the R-25 (.308) and R-15 (.223) for hunters. Me personally would choose the AR platform because of my knowledge of it (used it a lot), the ability to add attachments (lights, sights etc) in case I need to replace mine that were damaged. Also, I rather have 30 rounds in my magazine than 4 rounds with the capability to rapidly change magazines versus loading round by round. When it comes to scenarios in survival, bottom line is have good situation awareness and a good plan if something does catch you off guard. Never let yourself be stuck in a traffic jam (own a 4 wheel drive and get off the main roads) if you are sitting in a traffic jam then got to plan B and ruck up and move on foot. If you are getting mugged it is because you are in a over crowded area like a refugee style camp etc. Learn the basic elements of survival and practice them and again have a plan for keeping yourself and/or family safe and healthy. When SHTF actually happens, it might be a full collapse of society (partially maybe but not full), nuclear war, epidemic or a combination of things. It may be regionally or hemispheric. No matter what, it is a WAR. A war for my survival and that of my family and friends.
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    Winterizing your stuff.

    Several good points about keeping your weapons in good working order during cold weather. I spent time in Korea, Alaska and Afghanistan. All places get quite cold in their own right. In Alaska during my time in the Northern Warfare Training Center for cold weather training, I learned a great deal how to deal with deep snow and freezing temps. We used a ten man arctic tent (canvas), it had a cloth liner. We always kept out weapons in between this liner to keep them cold, once you warm your weapon it will sweat and then if you need to take them outside it will freeze the bolt, etc in minutes. Keep them dry as possible, if you need to lube the action use a very small amount. When setting up your tent in deep snow always dig down to the solid ground and then put up your tent. If you dont the heat from your stove, heater, body will melt the snow beneath the floor and you will find yourself sinking over time. Having the tent lower than the surrounding snow level will also keep it out of the wind, help camouflage it from a distant, etc. In Korea, I always took off my boots and put them in the bottom of my bag to keep them warm and from freezing during the night. remember your feet sweat and the inside will be wet, so scrap off the mud, dirt etc as the best as you can and them place them sole facing down and heels outward so that the top of the boot is pointing up along the outside of the bag. You will find this is pretty roomy and comfortable. Also if you can find a bag that has a square bottom it will give you more room than the mummy style ones. During my recent deployment to Afghanistan I bought a great pair of boots. They are the Sorrel Timberwolves, light weight, good down to -40 but I would say more like -10. They kept my feet warm during long patrols on foot and in a HUMMV. The Quiet Patriot
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    Good Morning

    Hello, just wanted to say Hi and I look forward to future discussions.