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    OK, guys. New thread to post in. Prep II will be closed from now on. If you're tracking the thread make sure to track the new thread.
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    The other day I helped a friend design, tool and sew up an old school Black Jack slap. It got me to thinking about some of the simple weapons that have mostly been forgotten or over looked by most folks these days. Because of the many years my wife worked in prison I've heard of their various “homemade” weaponry. The most common and deadly is the old lock in a sock or whatever you have that is heavy stuck in a cloth that will hold it so you can swing it like a mace. In the centuries past they even made these up ahead of time and used them like a sling and threw the entire thing. With a two pound rock you can do unbelievable damage when thrown from near distance. Inmates regularly kill with something in a sock. If you just want to beat the hell out of someone a bar of soap in painful with only minimal chance of killing someone. You can sharpen the edge of a credit card or and high density plastic and slice tomatoes with it...or cut someones throat if needed. Plastic is a deadly tool. They used to let the inmated have regular toothbrushes and dental floss. To many of them ended up stuck in someone and the floss braided and used as a garrote. Now they get flossers and little tooth brushes that slip on the end of your finger. I've actually done the credit card thing and believe me it is SHARP! I have an older Lansky Letter Opener it is just a plastic double edges dagger that you can drive through a piece of ½” plywood. Paper can be rolled up like a long slender cone and with starch turned into a danm spear!!! It won't pierce a flack jacket but it will go through a regular shirt and a light coat or pants! You wouldn't believe the stuff inmates can make out of paper!! If you don't have pepper spry...use pickled jalapeno peppers! In my youth I carried a jar of them in my candy apple red 56 Chevy. Put one in each hand and just slap the hell out of a couple of guys and then throw what is left at anyone left standing. If you get it in their face the fight is OVER!! WARNING, do NOT think that washing your hands with soap will get this off your hands and then go to the bathroom!!!! BAAAD VERY VERY BAD!!! An old Green Beret that I used to hang out and fish with. He was part of the first batch that JFK was responsible for when the green benies were first designated as the OFFICIAL wear of the 10th Special Forces group at Fort Brag on October 12th 1961 and made official in April 11 1962. Anyway he told me that one mistake that people make is defining dangerous people by the weapons that they possess. There Are no dangerous weapons out there; JUST dangerous men and they are dangerous even if they are butt naked. The mind is your arsenal if you keep it stocked you can never be unarmed.
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    Ok, this could fit into "Firearms" but I selfishly wanted it here. The last few years, I've realized that with the huge amount of different pistols and revolvers now being offered during the Obammafuerher's Reign, Inpersonally, needed to/wanted to look at less expensive, more concealable pistols that I could press into service, should that need arise. While I don't want my NICE more expensive (traditional) means of self defense to wind up in an evidence locker forever,I don't mind parting with a logistically attractive less expensive alternative, that can serve the "exigency need role" for immediate self defense. Since I am heavily invested in the 9mm caliber, I restricted MY research for MY subjective needs, to that caliber. I like being logistically attractive, makes storage a LOT more conducive to conduct. There are a bunch of choices to choose from, and I set an artificial ceiling of $350.00 per pistol TOTAL, to see What my subjective/personal choices would be. Yes, I am retired law enforcement from the Republic's most populous state, I can afford whatever I want (at present), but that is NOT the point. I selected after my personal research, the SCCY CPX-2 9mm. It fits my peasant hands, ammo is plentiful in my personal supply, and it is accurate enough and reliable enough for it's intended purposes. YOUR mileage may varying this is subjective, ergo about MY needs. For less than my limit, I got a nice, accurAte double action only 11 shot revolver (re:pistol). I started out shooting revolvers, and with the long trigger pull, think of the SCCY as a self loading revolver, and you will do just fine. It is too big for ME, to "pocket carry", and I don't pocket carry anything but keys and my folding bladed knife. I don't care to have a loaded firearm pointed at my"boys", for convenience of carry, or by someone else. I use a holster, and since I'm now officially a newly minted "almost senior", I can do what I want. I choose belt carry, because that is where I'm used to carrying my hand guns, on my belt. Yes, you CAN conceal about any handgun on your person, just dress around the gun, even in Texas, Florida, or Snake's "hell-on-Earth" patch O'heaven. The majority of the Sheeple in this country are too stupid to look to see IF, YOU are carrying, a firearm, even the cops are way too lax in that regard in most of the jurisdictions in this country, metro areas or rural areas. I liked the SCCY so much, I got myself a back-up SCCY set up in the manner I found I like to use them. If one gets into an evidence locker, I'll bring it's brother into immediate use, with no worries. For a folding knife, I decided to go with Gerber brand. Yeah, I know there are "better" brands, but I wanted to go for price, and for what I use them for. I got hooked on the "Gator" folding knives from Gerber, kinda big for the pocket, but nice non slip handles and mine hold an edge well! I have more than one, for redundancy. I don't feel "undercut" by my Benchmades, I just don't use them every day like I do the Gerbers. I enjoy the simplicity they give me for MY subjective uses, and they meet MY subjective needs in my real world use. I don't like knife fights and never have been in one, well, when I was in law enforcement there was one time an idiot pulled a knife when I was pointing a firearm at him....he lost the knife quickly, and he was the only one injured., it was HIS choice. So, just thought I would toss this out there to the group, I think we can use less expensive gear for most things, and have extra prep funds for the more serious aspects of preparations, like food and water. Just something to also consider IF, you and you alone choose to do so. In the end, each of us is responsible for our own salvation.
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    i was reminded this morning of an incident that happened thirty years ago when i was fishing with my younger brother and my fishing rod disintegrated and i was left without means to catch any fish,,then i spotted a piece of broken glass and an idea formed.. my brother, well he said i was crazy to even try it, but i took that sliver of glass and a sapling and cut a spear and in moments I had a three pound bass on my fishing spear. and got five more fish before he'd caught his first fish... "You're still crazy" he said admiring my stringer of bass shad and bream.. sometimes old timey things work the best, especially when you lack the more modern resources to get the job finished.. i added a frog gig/fishing spear to my fishing gear and have never been disappointed by them or my ability to put food in the pan .. i guess its also in my genes, being one eighth native american (sac fox) , even though you could never tell it by looking at me,, guess its what you make of it...
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    Adapting The biggest challenge for a modern person suddenly thrown into a primitive survival situation is the mental changes. The thing that makes it all sooooo hard for us is going to be throwing out the ideas and training of the culture we were raised in. Many, maybe most at first will die because of an inability to adapt quickly enough. A quick list of a few non-valid ideas that we have that aren't true in a primitive world. Bigger is better. Get it done in a hurry. Food is for fun and entertainment...every meal! You only eat the RIGHT things with right being based on what you ate before. HURRY!!!! Farming is HARD Brutal work. It is hard to find catch and kill wild game. A person is innocent until proven guilty. Big is most often a total waste of time. A small shelter isn't as good as a bigger shelter is the first thing you have to dump. The shelter is only there for you to sleep in, get out of the rain, and dry store a few things. You will not usually live in it. The world is your living room. The only exception is in the winters in the COLD Snow Country and there, smaller is a LOT better because it will be easier to keep warm. A big gun is nice if you are in Bear country but most of the time a 22lr is better. If you think that you need a little more power think about maybe a carbine in a pistol caliber. My Winchester Trapper 357 mag will drop anything in the area where I live and the same in 44mag will drop a Moose! Lighter ammo, easy reloading with a simple loading system. Less lead used. Hunting and fishing is hard only when you are hunting and fishing using the rules of legal and sportsman like styles. You just don't actually hunt anything much more than a little bird. I will shoot those with a BB gun for little one pot stews if I'm on the move. You do not roast them over an open fire if you need the food. The juice that you see dripping out is the fat and the important fluids that have most of the true value in things you catch for a quick meal. A pot keeps it all and with a few roots, herbs and such can be very tasty! Instead of hunting and fishing you make and use traps. For deer aircraft cable snares over the trails then have a drive to rush the deer into these traps. Carry a LOOONG spear to cut their throats with. It is quieter and saves the bullet. Fish are easy to trap. Hoop nets and box traps are so effective that they are illegal in most places. If it is against the law you need to learn about it!! Spotlighting makes a lot of wary critters easy pickings. I had an old time telephone generator for many years and they work well for “calling “ the fish up. Crushed black walnuts work well too. Put them in a sack, crush them and throw them into a pool of still water. The fish will come up in a half hour or so. A lot of things that we think of as quick fixes or nearly instant gratification cease to be so when you can't go to Walmart and just buy one. Clothes are a good example. There are LOTS of similar things. Making and sewing cloth is a massively time consuming thing when you don't have machines doing most of the boring repetitive work! Digging a well is NOT a one day job even if you know how to do it. Lots of things that we do in minutes will become long boing exercises in manual labor. Food, farming and gardening are one of the few places where it is actually easier than people think...ONCE they learn that growing food for you and your family to eat is a lot easier than farming for profit. Can you possibly imagine how much corn you have to grow and sell to pay for a tractor or a house or a car???? Most gardens are a joke in the survival sense. Sorry people but radishes, lettuce, peppers, greens, cabbage and tomatoes are mostly a waste of time if you want to feed your family. Lots of work for VERY few calories. You want to grow corn, beans, peas, squash, potatoes, yams and such are what you need to spend most of your efforts on. The rest is for spice and taste like onions, peppers, garlic, tomatoes, and such is called a kitchen garden. Fruit and nut trees are also good but you just don't need 40 acres to feed your family. You will need to eat to live and give up the live to eat mentality that we have now. Feasts where you eat all you can or could ever want are SPECIAL occasions. You will need to learn the difference between hunger and appetite. We are trained to “feel like we need to eat at least three times a day at certain times. At those times we “feel” something but it really isn't hunger. Very few Americans have EVER actually felt hunger. Charity is a wonderful thing...IF you can afford it. If you can't then you could be killing your family with your kindness. Unfortunately in a world of survival of the fittest, the nice don't get extra credit. You will have to get a lot better at judging the good from the bad and the worthwhile from the worthless. Honor will become a serious thing again. Understand, if someone steals from you they will probably kill you if you have something that they think they need or maybe even just want. If I catch you stealing my food from my garden patch you will be fertilizing it tomorrow. If you ask for it and I have it to give I will give it but if you steal you are a waste of the food you stole. Primitive people lived a very quiet and subtle life. They wasted very little and probably didn't average 4 hours a day doing what we see as hard work. BUT when they were not working in the garden, hunting, fishing or things like that they WERE nonetheless doing things that were important. They would sit in the shade together in the heat of the day and chat while they made little things that were not hard work but were time consuming. What you need to understand is that for them this was not work. They didn't have TV, Radios or outside based entertainment. While their hands were busy the were also bonding and having a pretty good time. When I was a kid I used to love this sort of thing. Example...Before you can can you have to prepare the stuff. Beans and peas have to be shelled. Corn needs to be shucked and silked, Tomatoes may need to be blanched and pealed...things like that. We did this sort of thing as a group. We would sit under the live oaks and spend most of the day talking and listening to the older folks tell stories. The stories are what you might call our clan heritage. These people were raised and lived in a world that was totally different from now. If you wanted to go to town you walked, rode a horse or went in a wagon/buggy. You hunted for food NOT sport. I learned so much of what I know about life, honor and how to be self sufficient at the feet of my elders. These times were a combination of entertainment, education, bonding into the clan, play (water wars could happen at any moment!) with just a little nimble fingered work thrown in. The hardest part for people raise in our current culture will be the slow down that is necessary. How often have you heard primitive people perceived as lazy or at least not very ambitious? I know now days it isn't politically correct but that is still the way people that live in primitive conditions are perceived. They go slow for several reasons. First when all you need is enough food to eat for a few days, a few basic clothes, some sort of roof over your head and maybe a little water how much time does it take to provide that in normal times? A day has 24 hours. You need to do 4 hours of work at the MOST to provide these on average...What do you do with the rest of the day?? Gathering and storing more food is a waste. With the limited available ways to preserve food why store more than you can eat before it spoils. Without modern medicine any and every injury no matter how small could kill you! Survival sometimes means doing less and not more. You will need to learn a new way to perceive your life cost/risk versus profit decisions. Boredom KILLS. All work and no play does more than just make Jack a dull boy. You will have to learn new ways to protect yourself from boredom. You will have to MAKE your own entertainment. Kids are going to suffer the worst at first. Kids don't play the way that they used to. You will need to teach them how to play. It doesn't take much imagination to watch a machine do things. Look at how complex toys are today. Is a Barbie doll with a house, car, more clothes than most people really “better” than a rag doll that a child had filled with feelings and that can talk to them about important things and play the things that the child wants to play? Toys these days are bossy! I assure you, My Teddy Bear was more than just a toy. He was my very best friend. He was the one that was there when I was afraid, lonely and was always on MY side when my parents and other friends were mean. When was the last time you saw a kid with an imaginary friend. My daughter had two and for several years you had to be careful where you sat. We also learned that you had to make sure that they didn't come with us when we went out. They were bad little kids and would get my daughter in trouble. Their not at home manners just were NOT up to public places! Life is led between your ears. When the outside changes the inside HAS to adapt or else. Start thinking about it now and offering your kids a little help at learning to make their own toys and how to invest those toys with life and personalities
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    it is ironic that everyone ive talked to has an idea what they need to have in stock for long term survival, and some people dont have a clue ...so here id like to put together a list of absolutely must have items you store in your cache, before all else. food water and bob gear... power generator large garbage cans, plastic 50 gallon with lid for food storage 5 of them ten gallons of clorox bleach... sixteen drops to purify a gallon of water,,, air mask for contaminant air smoke and chemical .. coffee filters for filtration of water activated charcoal for water filtering, fishing line 16 lb test and up..several spools..spiderwire tough stuff... archery equipment.. bows and arrows , field tips and razor broadheads, blunt tips and cedar shafts backup rechargeable batteries fuel for machines, spare spark plugs and repair manuals, lubricant oils boyscout field book for reference pre 1970s version.. specific books. , you know which ones you rely on to survive folding field shovels.. i have a couple of these to dig trench latrines for sanitation so there is just a few listed add your own must haves
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    Hi All, We are low on ground space, so we've been reading up on vertical gardening and came across a book about growing potatoes in wooden towers. Anyone have experience with this? The idea is that as the potato plant grows, you hill the soil up around the stem and the plant produces more and more spuds in the root system. As you add soil to the top, you also add higher sides to your potato box, so your plant elongates in the soil and the wooden sides move up with it and the soil level. I know that having the soil properly aerated is key and that you also have to grow a late season potato variety to be successful. In theory you're supposed to be able to get many pounds of potatoes from one wooden tower. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos of people harvesting their vertical potato crops and all were busts and only got around 8 spuds total. Pretty disappointing for all the work to buy or build a wooden tower/container. Some people realize they had too compacted soil and also not the late season varieties. Have any of you had success growing potatoes in wooden towers using correct soil and potato varieties?
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    Survival has a lot of meanings to all sort of different people. I would like to offer you a different thought about it. Here, we are normally talking about personal survival. The survival of the individual and that persons family and near associates is about threat assessment and how to respond to the various threats that could arise. To most average people, and all sheeple, the entire thing is actually pretty depressing. It means the death of many, the breakdown of our system and most likely a period of unknown length of chaos and loss of our much loved creature comforts. You know, it is a troubling thought BUT... There is also cultural survival. When you look at societal breakdown I look at it sort of like an infection. If a little finger gets an infection that you can't cure or stop sometimes it has to be removed or the entire body will die. The infection isn't just hurting your pinky finger. It is poisoning your entire body and slowly dragging you down. While losing your finger is sad and depressing, the thought of your body healing and your strength coming back is far from depressing. It will even be painful to lose a finger BUT for the good of all it has to go. I think that our culture has reached that sort of point. The small corruptions are slowly poisoning the entire thing. Let's face it; when it is even questionable whether or not a cop has the right to defend himself or herself from bodily attack or armed attack if the attacker is black we are in SERIOUS trouble!!! The problem is NOT black people!!! The problem is that our government is using the lowest elements of their race as a distraction to keep us divided. There are bad, ignorant and stupid people of ALL races out there. I was raised in KKK Kuntry and believe my trash is trash no matter what the color of the skin! What is happening is that the Government through their controlled media is making it SEEM as if we, the white majority are under attack and helpless because if you defend yourself in most places North of the Mason/Dixon line and now days almost anyplace except Texas you may be prosecuted. If your state won't do it the feds will hit you with a civil rights suit! At the same time the black folks are being told that the cops and most white folks are out to kill them and are killing their poor unarmed kids left and right. The media CREATES these stories just like they created the problem in Ferguson. They ONLY interviewed the people that were wailing that the thug had his hands up and was shot in the back. The FACT was he was charging the cop and the cop was either going to shoot him or DIE. That was one BIG strong jacked up crazy who had already tried to pull him out of his car window by his throat. The cop KNEW that he couldn't take him on just with his bare hands. After the fact...LONG after the fact, on the back pages of the print media it came out t hat NONE of the people telling the cops and media all about him being shot in the back with his hands over his head were even THERE at the time. The people, mostly black people that were there told a different story that was fully backed up by the forensic evidence...NO holes in the back...NONE. The entire thing was a fabricated tale created by the media. The terrible racial motivated killing in Baltimore...of the five cops the prosecutor is after, three are black and the Sargent in charge was a black lady officer. Now how in the hell is THAT racial?? Obummer is trying to tear this country apart and the Republican party is right in there with him cheering it on and helping all they can. They problem is not the people of this country. The government in Washington is an infected corruption on the butt of America. The entire establishment, both Democrats and Republicans no longer consider themselves as Americans first. They are parasites that FEED on America and that is where their entire allegiance lays...to their party first and the system second! They are near the terminal point and are preparing to dump the farcical crud and just declare the constitution invalid and divvy the country up into fiefdoms. The United STATES of America died at the end of the civil war. The REPUBLIC of America is in ICU and sinking fast. Presidents now openly flaunt their ability to RULE above and outside of the constitution. The constitutional reality is that the President actually was meant to have almost NO individual authority. He can't introduce a bill and only has an active roll when both the House and Senate have passed it. Then he can either sign or veto it. The closest the Pres gets is when he PROPOSES a budget. Now Obama and even a non-president Hillary are moving into MAKING laws by Presidential decree. I'm sorry but I look at some form of total disaster as the only hope that America has left. The great experiment of Democracy is a failure and capitalism has run wild. The founding Fathers NEVER intended for people that couldn't support themselves to have a vote. The opinion of even twenty idiots on welfare is NOT as good as the opinion of ONE successful wise person!!! In the beginning you had to own property to vote... now you don't even need to have an ID or a birth certificate!!!! Capitalism worked until the wealth became personal instead of corporate. It used to be a rich person made a gizillion dollars and then RE-invested it back into the corporation because the personal tax rates were 75% and UP!!!! Sam Walton became the richest man in the world paying 75% + income tax. Romney, when he was running for office paid a lower total percentage tax rate than I did! Asset based wealth means JOBS for Americans while personal wealth means trillionaires and unemployment for working people. Why NOT dump your American workers and move your factories to China?? Over there you pay a $1.24 an hour, no retirement, no matching Social security and a factory is a big building with a bucket in each corner and a roll of toilet paper for “facilities. You dump the poison out in the river or into the air, there is no OSHA, no EPA and no labor laws to worry about. Without the manufacturing base we HAD, WW2 would have been a SHORT and very bad ending war and we would all be speaking German but not on this. Without a working rail system we can't even move enough stuff from coast to coast to fight a real war. America now has lots and lots of billionaires and some say one trillionaire. What we don't have is the ability to fight and win a war of any true size short of turning the world into a glow in the dark ornament with no advanced life forms. Our only hope is some sort of world wide disaster that will again make survival a matter of intelligence and judgment and not only for fast breeders that won't or can't work so just sit back and breed like rats. It also has to happen before someone else decides to come here and TAKE what we have away from us or our own government does it too us. Too me TEOTWAWKI is about the only chance or hope our culture has left... I'm sorry, I'm not Mary Poppins I see ugly and just call it ugly...
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    If I was limited to one 22 rifle if would be a Ruger 10-22. It is a fairly short rifle and extremely adaptable with all sorts of after market accessories. All Rifles are required to have barrels over 16" If the barrel is shorter than 16" it can't have a stock because it is a pistol. A semiautomatic rifle can fill more roles than a bolt action. My Ruger 10-22 is more accurate than I am capable of using except over sand bags. With a scope head shots on squirrels is right there for you if you do your part. There are also a lot of youth sized rifles out there these days and for smaller folks these might be right for you. Another 22 LR that is a lot of fun is the little Henry 22 lever action carbine. I love mine and the kids like it a lot as well so smaller size works well for them.
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    ive found if you load up a standard size egg carton made of cardboard, not plastic, with charcoal briquets you have enough to get a good fire going and its a great way to optimize cooking a meal, boil water for coffee and burn off disposable trash ... also you can cook breakfast very quickly using a half carton and it produces less smoke than a larger fire.. and it weighs less than hauling around a ten pound bag of briquettes ..i also add a little parrifin in the bottom of one of the little compartments to ensure a nice hot fire.. in rain ,snow sleet or other foul weather situations...it can be a life saver..hot food, hot coffee... bring on some eggs or mushrooms
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    if you have mormons in the area they surely have a "bishops pantry" near by you can go there and get some good info...
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    Tactical is a word I do not like....it's like " organic" it is very often just a reason to charge more and results in a product that isn't the best it could be. For instance the "tactical" hawk, the title results in a high cost and features that often interfere with it usefulness in a Hawks number one function, cutting wood. The word also implies "military" "combat" and other things that the preaparedness crowd likes to avoid being labeled with. There are a number of very useful and even "cool" items that are "tactical" but often the better option is a more tradional item. Think about it.... If trying to get yourself or your family out of town do you think looking like a SOF operator will help you blend in the crowd or get you shoot first, arrested, or robbed. The first tactical item needed is the training, knowledge, and skills and with these anything becomes "tactical".
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    I would even wager a guess while they may lose some nutritional value past expiration, they are likely safe to eat past that date and would give some calories to stave off hunger, though they make lack in terms of power packed vitamins and minerals.
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    Hi. Just another thing to consider is what type of precious metal to hold. Bullion can't be broken down/divided or carried easily. So coins are better. DH and I cashed in a whole life insurance policy I had that a grandpa started for me as a baby. We went online to APMEX and bought "junk" silver. Basically we have old quarters from days passed (before worthless money), that are all silver. They were once all in circulation. Some are dirtier than others. Some date back to the turn of the century. You can get nickels or dimes too. The face value of the coins now has no bearing. It's the weight. So you buy by weight. That's the extent of our physical precious metals. I do hold "paper" gold (ETFs) in a retirement portfolio. I'm leaving that alone due to taxation right now to withdraw. Meh. Not the best. As for cash, we have about $2k in smaller bills. Cash is good in the short term for when card readers are off (no debit or credit). The rest of our value is in "stuff" and supplies.
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    MisterSnake, however, lucid and filled with common sense your comments are, trying to apply common sense and political "will", and heaven forbid "diplomacy", is always ill-advised. For my selfish interest or at least in consideration of MY blood pressure, please refrain from posting such comments in the future! All kidding aside, the longer I live, the more I have come to realize that ALL politicians, have far less moral courage, than the most diseased suppurating street walker on earth. I despise all politicians as useless. So in spite of my protestations to the contrary, ReverendSnake, please keep the sermons coming, this choir member as always, is all ears.
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    I go on other forums occasionally, and I always love it when they have the "Gun Porn" threads... so whenever you see something sexy, post it up! It doesn't have to be survival related, just awesome. Starting things off with the Remington 725 in .270 Winchester I just picked up last night. MAN, was she crusty! Dust, debris, surface rust, and a bore that was pretty, well, gross. I spent two hours disassembling and cleaning the old girl...cleaned up pretty nice!
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    While I will admit that Elmer was a puffed up blowhard and braggart, I also have to admit that he is one of my heroes in spite of it. I have 4 of his books and have read each of them more than once. I truly believe that Smith & Wesson would have gone the way of the Dodo if it had not been for the collaboration with Keith. BF
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    Some other treasures from the Elmer Kieth Collection. The finish-worn 4" N-frame with the ivory grips was Elmer's personal carry piece that he usually wore. The double rifle is the famous .450-400 W.J. Jeffrey & Co. boxlock that Col. Jim Corbett used to great effect hunting man-eating tigers in India. A snippet from the auction house about the rifle: http://jamesdjulia.com/item/1038-373/ https://frontierpartisans.com/3666/jim-corbetts-rifle/ There were also many Rigby bolt guns, and Elmer's famous original .333 OKH. One particular .404 Rigby bolt gun had be almost in tears, it was so finely made. I would have bought it on the spot, but nobody in the area needed a kidney. Some very cool stuff, and I was blessed to be able to head up there and don the white gloves to handle a lot of staggeringly beautiful history.
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    If anyone is interested here is a great site, tells of my favorite gun writer Elmer Keith guns and personal loads some are kinda stiff LOL THE SIXGUNS AND LOADS OF ELMER KEITH I am a stainless steel fan I love Rugers because I load them tall to make them fall and I factory crimp so there is no bullet setback or jump both in full house loads is concerning. I noticed on some load data that certain loads were only for rifle or a Ruger pistol. Marlin are my favorite I only owed a couple Winchesters and did not care for top eject and I have had good luck with microgrove rifling / accuracy I have seen where some bemoan the microgroove as inferior to ballard cut bores but I can shoot 5 in one ragged hole not that anything is wrong with ballard rifled barrels and not that they are not accurate as it is what it is a rifle or pistol is accurate or not I was lucky that my combo could shoot the same load for both and put them where aimed.
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    Went to a gun show today & managed to get a few excellent deals. Got 1 lb of universal & 1 lb of Nunber 9 powder for $25 total. Average price for powder is $40-45 per pound plus taxes in my area. Got Allen vanes for arrows 5 pkgs for $5 Each pkg contains 12 vanes. Got a NcStar mini 14 side scope mount new for $5 Got 2 Lee lube sizing kits new 308 & 311 for $20 each. Retail average $45 plus taxes. It was a great day at the show, with bargains. Blessings indeed.
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    Another 18-24 inches of snow forecasted today for my neck of the woods. I soldiered in the 15 miles to work in my trusty 4WD Tacoma, but MAN do other people suck driving in the snow. Makes me wonder how many of them are actually prepared in case they end up heading for the tooleys! No actual info here, just a rant. Cabin fever and winter to fatigue is starting to set in. That is all.
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    I've some aside if needed. Sling shots & ball bearings. Throwing knives. Bows & arrows. A 22 pellet gun that's 760 FPS. Any firearm that uses ammo that brakes the sound barrier, is a big NO! In my area we can't own silent sirs. for firearms, do to by-laws. So what do you have to not attract attention.
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    metal repairs require strength here are a few things that will be a good thing to have on hand. these will also solder together dissimilar metals like brass and cast iron steel and brass etc. some example would be a broken front pistol or rifle sight broken triggers that would need hi tensile strength solder. broken handle of a cast iron pot permanent connection of electronic or electric wires or spliced steel cable {making eyes on a wire cable} or making it longer by splicing 2 short pieces together. 80 pa Homogenized solder can be found at brownells.com First this solder is LOW TEMP Homogenized sloder 16,000 psi bond taking a mere 425 degrees to bond. as far as I can see this is perfect to repair broken metal parts Hi force 44 solder takes more practice to use and you need to use COMET flux. Homogenized solder has the flux premixed. TIX solder it is a great loer temp solder operating at 275 degrees but it only has 4,000 PSI use TIX flux with it. Other components that may be very helpful would be heat control past Metals need to both be the melting point of the solder or you wont get a bond small parts are easier to get to temp. using a pencil and scribing a line around the area you do not want solder to creep to also heat control paste the area needs to be clean use trichloroethane or alcohol to remove oils hand or machine oil. A hot piece of metal formed into a IRON to transfer heat there are also miniature propane torches I would use a or have a pencil torch they use cigarette lighter propane and are refillable. a simple disposable bottle type torch using propane can be used as a room heater its heat can be enhanced by heating a piece of steel plate stand the torch and move the plate to the flame you can use bricks to hold the plate. remember heat rises so it takes more heat to solder the top of a barrel pipe etc. this can also be used to solder handles on tools like a cross handle on a shovel you need of course to notch them to a perfect fit as possible so as not to waste solder and the joint will be stronger. with a few tools re-purposing electronic scrap many solar cells for yard lights are low Ma. output as well as low voltage figuring to recharge a dry cell or rechargeable battery you need to charge at a rate < 10% of it's rated Ma. and equal to the voltage a blocking diode prevents reverse discharge when the sun is not powering the solar cell. Right now is the time to invest time in research do some home projects with the kids or learn something different cruising the net for garbage will not serve you in times of trouble keep a notebook I like to use the bound composition type. it is hard to remember all of the information that can be used in survival and prepping canning cooking etc. I have these note books in different colors and have rewritten and transcribed duplicate information if it is useful in another topic. Today science make a case that people need to exercise their brain but instead of using an app on a phone that are worthless new hobbies completely different than your used to start small do not try to build a shortwave radio before you have practiced soldering a switch leg circuit on a very simple LED project. And you can thieve solder from PCB boards and soldered wire it ain't easy but survival never is. These are the things you need to be researching using the Internet not looking at PoRn http://dangerousprototypes.com/2012/06/14/workshop-video-how-to-make-a-simple-soldering-flux/
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    Ok, onetime. What you are saying is that a police officer can't tell the difference between his fully loaded side arm and his taser? The issue is not the speed of the draw...this is not the wild west. The issues is conflict resolution and descalation, which, apparently isn't taught to police officers anymore....
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    There is a group out of San Antonio Texas called The Human Path that does online and on-site Survival Workshops. Thought I would share this in case anyone was interested. http://thehumanpath.net/course/staying-alive-eco-construction-workshop-day/ http://thehumanpath.net
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    Watch the video footage. A lot of truth said with reality. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7ByClFPm_9w
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    I am highly considering getting my CCW. But, I feel relatively unprepared. I'm not scared. And, I have a great ability to learn. It's just a matter of me crossing my "t's" and dotting my "i's." I stumbled upon Concealed Carry University (by Patrick Kilchermann from Delta Defense and the Conceal Carry Association) and ordered their 7 DVDs for 20+ hours of at-home study. This will not replace range time or the state mandated class I would have to take to get my permit. Anyway, it covers their 3 premises to CC which is Mindset, Skills, and then after the other two are built on, Tools (armory). I just completed the 2 DVDs in the Mindset category and while I have to watch them again to get more retention, I learned A LOT (types of criminals, knowing when to shoot, what it is like to get shot, how the body reacts to a violent situation (tunnel vision, etc.), what to say to police, what to say to the 911 dispatcher, crime and incarceration stats, combat breathing, legal terms, etc.). Anyway, my own biggest question, which another poster on here mentioned regarding not attending a Christmas party since CCW holders were asked not to carry to the event, is this. If there's a sign posted outside a building that reads "Guns banned on these premises," what exactly does that mean (maybe it varies by state?)? Does that ban the guns of police and CCW people? How can a business ban or limit the 2nd Amendment for citizens to carry? If you intend to go to such a building for a meeting, meal, or appointment, or shopping and you get there and see the sign, what do you do with your gun? Leave in car? Bring into building and hope no one notices - ignore the sign? Thanks.
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    Generally speaking AfterGood Friday - Easter is the best time to start your garden. As the weather is always different that needs to be tempered with common sense. I have got a load of new dirt and will mix it with rabbit manure and top it off with a bag of good black soil inside old tractor trailer tires. This has a 3 fold usage first 2 tires places the garden at a level so you can use hand garden tools while sitting in a chari. Second you can use small re-bar and use on on each bent into a horse shoe shape and stick them just below the tread and it also make a garden frame to cover with clear plastic or bird netting to protect from freezing or critters. Third the are almost bullet proof should the day come where you need that sort of thing. out in front of windows covering every thing below the window sill or without dirt like a football training trial to keep people from having a straight run across open ground add in rebar spikes blocks of wood with nails loos rolled barbed wire staked each end and it's fun for the whole family. As far as gardening best to get some 4 foot or higher fencing and make your own tomato cages as tomatoes can grow quite tall and only need support and will give you tomatoes until next frost raied bed gardens give good drainage if you need less drainage put in a 55 gallon plastic bag a few minor holes poor soil for anchoring the first tire and better or enhanced soil in the second potatoes can be started in the second tire once the plant has grown above the 2nd tire lever add the tire and good fluffy dirt not something that can compact to a hard soil and strangle it's growth things like pole beans or strawberries can be done in stacked buckets (vertical gardening) one bucket 4 bricks stacked on end in center fill around with good loose soil top with pine straw and stack a bucket on top of the bricks fill around with dirt more bricks in center and repeat up to 3 tall or you will have to have a way to keep the wind from knocking it over use a drill and cut 2 inch holes or cut a slit and use a heat gun to push in the top to make a recess for your plants. to keep weeds out you can use cloroplast or plastic cardboard after elections the ads are suppose to be removed if not grab them up and layer around to make a weed proof base for your tires. every year take out the top tire dirt enhance with some fertilizer and fresh black dirt and replant you can use a 3 stack for a mulch pit tear down a restack and re-fill every couple of months. no meats or grease just vegetable scrap coffee grounds egg shells etc. if you need or want more planting space a hole saw to cut holes in the sidewall of the top tire. this same principle can be done with garbage cans fiber glass rings cut from old / bad tanks concrete blocks etc. but stack in bricks to hold them from being knocked over and to conserve soil / hold water. a warning chicken manure is too HOT as is fresh cow and horse also they contain weed seeds that are not killed in the animals gut during digestion old manure that has been piled from the previous year has aged enough to use mixed with soil. never mix or irrigate with teas made from animal manure after a plant blooms / buds the manure can enter or dry on leaves and cause e-coli and other problems so don't do it. at the start of each year you can use a balanced fertilizer like 10-10-10 sparingly around plants once they bloom a bit more water ever few DAYS too much water is as bad as too little plants like people need to struggle to become strong. gallon milk jugs w/ the bottom cut off can be used to protect plants from night chills until they are tempered enough to survive cool NOT FROSTY nights some vegetables can handle snow but not freezing wind read and understand that you may not be successful at growing all plants but the ones you can put your energy into those as you can always trade for those you want / need. Spices are a good small garden project basil tyme peppers onions garlic celantro dill etc can be dried or pickled canned beets and greens etc mixed make a good salad mix and also cooked in a large pot with a lid then add bacon grease for flavor ead and your in southern heaven. Greens and root vegetables are innocuous when grown in the middle of a grass field. Mixed thought for mixed greens..................
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    Today as I normally do, I was taking my dog for a walk through the park about 5:30 am , I noticed about 2 dozen birds laying on the park walkway. All were dead, I approached one of them to see what happened. Their was no gunshot wound nothing at all. I find this very strange & somthing must be going on. Another thing is that for the past few months, I haven't heard any birds singing in the morning as they normally do. Strange things are a happening in my area as of late.
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    Baked Pork chops with Cajun seasoning dirty rice and blue lake green beans I figure there are plenty of dirty rice recipes on the internet this is so easy that even one of "RHE WORST COOKS" Could crank this one out. Rice is a time thing as well as having a pot large enough to keep it from boiling over 2 X the amount of water over rice once the rice a table spoon of butter & water starts boiling put it to low or simmer cover the pot and wait 20 minutes see if there is any water in the bottom if so let it cook until it is gone then turn off and leave the lid on in about 5 minutes then fluff and serve Plain rice cooked with butter like this can be eaten as a cold breakfast cereal with honey or sugar and milk Well, it the best knows, but waste not, want not Cornbread is great as breakfast split butter, heat and pour on syrup or molasses. Molasses has many trace minerals as well as a tinge of sulfur Honey is great stuff, but most everyone knows that already.
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    zen811 WELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM! LOL Attempt at humor toward 20 years in government Our only problem is we can not speak of our solutions can we, as they themselves are problematic in a civilized world. And my mother always said if I did not have anything nice to say SHUT UP! A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and a dangerous thing is a little knowledge.
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    A BOB (bug out bag) or GHB (get home bag) is a cornerstone of preparedness, because when an emergency occurs there is little warning. I am not or claim to be a medically trained person doctor or Indian chief, I advise a first aid to a EMT level group of classes and to inform yourself online, remembering your legally responsible in some cases and should send a cold chill only a doctor or Nurse practitioner (specific) can give/ administer/ / prescribe medications EMERGENCY means a world of incalculable extremes that even the best equipped fire and emergency agencies must use other means to extract a injured person, remember that. Recent mudslides,earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes or how about an accident on the road ? in an instant your a on scene first responder or need to sustain life of your own family members even yourself until a emergency response can be on site. The misnomer that the world is going to end is not just a recent event, BUT the world for some ends everyday and sometimes because they or a on site responder did not have the basic first aid knowledge or first aid kit enhanced with some very basic cheap items. Water is number 1, A stainless steel bottle/s of at least one quart, remembering never give water to unconscious or injured just dampen lips pat face it they are hot. an easy way to cool is to take towel wet and whip in a swinging motion in the air will cool a great deal. Stem bleeding #2 Stem is not stop and sometimes all you can do is slow it to a trickle, never remove a dressing add over retain pressure with a wide strap like a luggage strap with a cinch for smaller areas gauze, athletic tape and box of kotex a few Ace bandages in addition to a basic first aid kit and a Swiss army knife not a Chinese knockoff because this last a lifetime Warmth or shade of a blanket is 3 always have a real blanket like a fleece throw and a couple of space / emergency blankets remember not to move a person although they may look fine internal or unseen injuries may cripple or kill in dire emergencies / fire etc. you may have no choice splinting / immobilizing Paint stir sticks are about as cheap and easy to carry and use as anything I could imagine other than simple newspaper or magazine.try not to move the injured limb, splint or secure to the body in place, 550 paracord is useful as well. Other purposes of our "bag" is also personal comfort and that includes food drink to suit the climate you can buy MRE heaters you can also have cold packs that when the pouch within the bag is broken it turns almost to ice key areas to cool someone from a raging fever or heatstroke is to lower the bodies temp as fast as you can placing a cold pack under the armpits neck at the carotid area and even the crotch. wetting the body with alcohol is quick but water and fanning is good in summer shade is needed o keep from reheating. Weather appropriate clothing in winter your swimming trunks ain't going to make it. a full Tyvek suit from Homedepot is cheap wind and waterproof tiny when folded and disposable get it in a larger size to cover all of you with your winter clothing consider snow shoes or ice cleats/ crampons as falling or slipping is going to wear you out time and distance has killed more people from not being able to get to safety. snow chains ? if you need them only once they are well worth it. If you live where there are mountains hills and gullies a rope like Kernmantle 9MM or 10MM climbing rope 3 or 4 "real" weight bearing caribiners look for used on EBAY as this is pricey new and you may never need it but it makes a good tow rope in fact a few tow straps connected with Caribiners could work. even if you can't another person on site might be able to use the equipment and if that is all we can do is be to help we have done more than 10 people goggling although calling 911 is the very first thing to do. My BOB or GHB may have other items specific to my experience needs or training / knowledge as should yours not all of this need to be expensive, rummage through garage sales thrift and resale shops a back pack and all the items won't cost that much. THE END OF THE WORLD, Ask anyone that has survived any catastrophic weather or natural disaster event fire or bridge collapse ? bridge failures 2000 to present Bridges connect water isolated or impassable areas to livable drivable land imagine a winter like this and or a heatwave and your stuck in traffic for a plain accident I have been for many hours do you have enough fuel to run your precious AC or heat do you have a gas can so if there is a station you can go get some ? do you have cash in case the ATM's don't work ? do you have spare key hidden in case you lock yourself out of your vehicle in a crisis as can happen when your preoccupied ? only stupid people think they will never die or get injured or sick of for that matter get in a jam. People with their feet on the ground and w/ common sense choose to mitigate and be prepared mentally and with the basic items. Why a BOB or GHB because it is being physically responsible for yourself family and unfortunate souls in mortal danger who may be too stupid to have thought for anyone else including themselves
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    TpSnodgrass I pray for your fast and complete recovery sorry to hear your not feeling empowered I think the term, just remember If God is with you who can be against you ! NORKS that great funny as hell. AND Just remember hemorrhoid creme should not be stored where you keep your toothpaste when driving keep the rubber side down and when having amours activities do not use names as a wrong one could ruin the mood ! just remember as well we are all roosters one day feather dusters the next Well thats all I got
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    Awareness is first, surprise is due to ignorance of your surroundings. people and events cannot surprise you if you keep your head on a swivel. I do not let people crowd me in a line where I use my bank card I keep my eyes open and do not let people come up behind me I use glass shadows and try to keep and an oblique angle to doors windows or openings I do not answer a door or phone that is not mine or I know whats on the other side before. Mindset is controlled paranoia or condition yellow no one with a hoodie is allowed in my space without a good eyeballin' carrying of objects or bags news papers at night especially so. Face demeanor means nothing smiling or feigned preoccupation with a phone counting change reading a map or letter before I exit or enter a vehicle or door I try to be watchful of what is going on around me. A door is not just an exit sometimes it's a trap many fires have many people stacked up on the door that opened inward. Do not believe what you hear unless you can validate it by human sources, more than one is best, sometimes it is just by observation. If you look at everyone around you as dead a potential hostage, witness or stupid you have a better chance than if you think you have a rescue nearby,In fact look at all of them to run like blind rats. or just stand there like a cigar store Indian IE Waco Texas luby's mass shooting. If you have never been in a life or death struggle with beasts, mechanical catastrophe, man or nature chances are your at a severe disadvantage mindset is partially experience and just because people have experience does not mean they have not gained a phobia to the point of panic or Iron will. Doubt is a killer Fukashima the tsunami warnings blared and people did not increase their pace or look to the sea or jumped out of vehicles that could have outrun (possibly) the waves and ran. Numerous situations where people had time heard or saw a warning sign and ignored it and never forget playing possum is not outside the rules nor is fainting women fight when being taken and depending on distance or time dead weight is hard to move so fall down play dead grab your left chest and hope to win an Oscar. Running an be an option small fires cause explosions Bear attacks running is not advised go for the eyes is always a plan. your never under gunned just not behind a sufficient barrier or best tactical position. If you can maintain calm while all about you are loosing theirs you obviously do not perceive the problem.....YET, Now can you devise a plan of action fast enough to survive. Sometimes reacting is better than thinking. The problem is you will not know until the situation has been resolved. Willingness are you willing to make a leap of faith take a chance that is less than one in a hundred and face certain death for it and do it again and again because that is the unknown factor the breaking point when the will or confidence fails you. and death is 100% there are NO survivors in this world no one lives forever records are always being broken death takes the innocent guilty fast slow old and young it has 0 failure rate eventually it will get you. I know people that sh*t in a colostomy bag piss through a catheter missing limbs eyes in nut wards drunkards junkies or old and so feeble can barley walk but the days of their youth or before their incident even the devil stepped aside some and all will be held down by a gravestone eventually. some calamities lasted hundreds of years bad leaders revolt nature civil war you can survive and live in hell till you die, death is not the worst thing that can happen to you - you could out live your whole family children and all your friends. Last you can make all the right decisions and die anyway because the outcome had already been calculated by God chance physics or pure bad Juju. and can you live with your decisions ?
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    honesty Yup, some people can’t handle the truth! My Favorite Animal Our teacher asked what my favorite animal was, and I said, "Fried chicken." She said I wasn't funny, but she couldn't have been right, because everyone else laughed. My parents told me to always tell the truth. I did. Fried chicken is my favorite animal. I told my dad what happened and he said my teacher was probably a member of PETA He said they love animals very much. I do, too. Especially chicken, pork and beef. Anyway, my teacher sent me to the principal's office. I told him what happened, and he laughed, too. Then he told me not to do it again. The next day in class my teacher asked me what my favorite live animal was. I told her it was chicken. She asked me why, so I told her it was because you could make them into fried chicken. She sent me back to the principal's office. He laughed, and told me not to do it again. I don't understand. My parents taught me to be honest, but my teacher doesn’t like it when I am. Today, my teacher asked me to tell her what famous military person I admired most. I told her, "Colonel Sanders." Guess where the heck I am now…
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    ....." You the bomb...no,no...you the bomb!" A friendly conversation in the West....but a deadly arguement in the Middle East....
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    A buddy of mine has a family camp in Northeast Maine with a tree farm on it....and he has a serious porcupine problem. Every year he goes up and kills 30-40 of them and he still has issues with porkys eating his trees. So he bought a .22 Hornet in hopes of having a little more horsepower over his .22LR. He worked a deal for an older Savage 342 with a 3-9x Tasco scope. It's a nice little rifle - we took it apart, cleaned the bore thoroughly, snugged up all the screws, and gave it a basic freshening up. We took it out to the range a couple weeks ago with factory PPU ammo while we waited for his new dies and case-trimming kit to arrive in the mail. It was kind of diasppointing, I'm not going to lie...3"-4" groups at 100 yards were the norm, with either of us behind the trigger. Well, he got his dies in the mail and dropped them off, and I worked up three different starting point handloads with IMR-4227, IMR-4198, and Lil' Gun powders, under a Hornady 45-grain soft point varmint bullet. It a was pretty amazing difference, as you can see in the pictures below. And the velocity! I was 1/2 grain below maximum, and the Lil' Gun powder cranked that tiny 45-grain pill out at just shy of 2800 fps! The IMR-4198 load burned too slow and only pushed about 2100fps and didn't group as well, but it was very quiet. Below is a picture of a 25-yard 5-shot group with the Lil' Gun load. At 100 yards, my buddy put 5 shots into a nice round 1 1/4" group. Pretty darned good starting point, I'll say. I'll load him up more trial loads in 2/10 grain increments lower and higher, and we'll get this lil' Hornet dialed right in. God, I love reloading.
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    I haven't figured out how to put multiple images into one post yet. Sorry about that. BF
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    Latest pic of the underground facility about 5 miles from my home. Entrance/exit is via a "Bilco" door, made to look like a utility company's work hatch. Only the door is visible from the outside. Six inches of concrete poured over metal roof and completely covered with soil. Original plan was for storage but I made it awfully big for just that! Contemplating addition of permanent electrical, ventilation, etc.
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    I don't like buying online; I like my local gun shops, personally. I've seen then on Guns America, FunBroker, etc....I'd rather pick up and gun, look it over, inspect it, and make sure it's what I want before I pull the trigger (pun intended)
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    This is cool, just imagine flying to your BOL , no traffic jams to deal with on the highways. Just strap on your back pack & off you go. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=At3xcj-pTjg
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    The magazine extension for the PARA P-14/SAR R works great with the Arredondo Extended Mag Spring For Para HiCap SKU: 501-041 . It feeds reliably, although I still can't stuff in the 18th round. Having 17 1 to begin a course of fire is a very good place to start. I still highly recommend this set-up for those who desire the extra rounds. BTW:I have since recovered fully from the surgery that I had to my arm.
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    Decided to put an older smart phone and a solar charger and a couple of mmsd cards into my EMP can. I have a external phone charger / booster some phone cords ear buds some more rechargeable batteries I have the software updated the phone is rooted and I have kicked out all the bloatware, So now while I am huddled in my cave I can watch John Wayne and hundreds of other movie stars as well as listen to all my music and I have a number of useful app's like flash light calculator level sound meter microscope thread pitch and metric conversion the compass on any of them sucks. I use VLC media player open office and decided to make pics of my important paperwork personal photos and encrypt them from prying eyes. I am not going to place it in the top tier of things to have but even if things do not work in one area it may well work in another and since we have been hacked infested with moles I figure all our info is archived at the Kremlin & under the NPC in Beijing as well as Moosad / Sword of Gideon bunch I do not mind them as much as the others I have not seen them empty bank accounts or harm anyone but their enemies and usually they are our enemies as well. The Jews are the most prolific creators and were the ones we have to thank when they destroyed the centrifuge equipment used in Iran to make the BOOM, that took Iran a lot of time and money and that is telling that they could get at their infrastructure, I also have Kaito KA 500 emergency radio I like the analog dial versus digital on other models if digital quits it game over analog is IMHO more durable. I also keep a tiny AM/FM radio and a few sets of ear buds and a multi meter. I decided to make a chlorine generator from a carbon rod stainless steel wire some jumpers w/ alligator clips used w/ a couple of 9 volt batteries it will make chlorine from distilled water and a pinch of salt.you also need a glass mason jar or a thick plastic jar and keep the + and - from grounding out (touching) this is easily found on youtube as is a similar idea of making colloidal silver except you need silver wire this is also a youtube video. I have also made some silicone washers and grommets by filling different size PVC sprayed with mold release or I guess a light coat of food oil would work but you fill a tube 4 to 6 inches long stand it up let it dry a week or so and now you can use a razor and punch to make food grade high temp washers of your own design / thickness and hole size even plugs for a distiller or lost or broken bottle caps. you can also use wire cable or fishing leader and ferrules a small eye bolt in the top of your bottle cap and a couple of fishing swivels and you have a cap retainer that does not get tangled. I wanted a handle on my KRU vodka bottles so I bought some metal gate or trunk handles and used stainless steel hose clamps I could have used some stainles wire and bent it. So many ideas so little time at the moment to get the others done.....
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    Here is a pic of the table top water filtration system I made up from 2 -2 gallon stock pots from wally world a stainless steel spigot & silver impregnated ceramic dome filter from Ebay took about 10 minutes using a unibit or stepped drill bit. I may get some more filters as it takes a while to gravity filter with these there are .02 micron and work well I may place 3 of these to make it work faster instead of one and I am going to put a fiber filter in the spigot and have a bed of activated charcoal in the lower pot. https://500px.com/photo/178000831/filter-jpg
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    I had a shallow well next to my house that I used to water my lawn, the pump quit working last summer and I've yet to replace it. I was thinking that if SHTF happens and we are without power, it would be nice to have an old time hand pump like we had on the farm to access the water. I've checked with Harbor Freight and other sites but nothing resembling the old manual pump that we had to prime has shown up. Any ideas on this?????